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look thru post for fuel tanks and trying to get a handle on the issue. Took a look at the pdf that was good info. Some references to cutting some on the cross beam and my PO Don mentioned cutting out the old tank and reinstalling 2 tanks.
Had a fellow down today to look at the situation and he will contact some fabricators and work up a price.
Are there some pics I missed or any suggestions on how to proceed.thanks in advance.
Herb
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If your tank isn’t leaking, I woudl check out these guys in Seattle.
Probably extend the thank another 15 years:
http://www.felixmarine.net/article-sealing-fuel-tanks.html-p
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Herbc wrote:
look thru post for fuel tanks and trying to get a handle on the issue. Took
a look at the pdf that was good info. Some references to cutting some on the
cross beam and my PO Don mentioned cutting out the old tank and reinstalling
2 tanks.
Had a fellow down today to look at the situation and he will contact some
fabricators and work up a price.
Are there some pics I missed or any suggestions on how to proceed.thanks in advance.
Herb
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Herb,
I built a new 95 gallon tank into the hull under the salon sole, freeing
up the space under the cockpit and lowering the center of gravity and
shifting the weight to above the keel. This gave me plenty of room for
my 12V generator/scuba compressor under the cockpit. This project will
appear in an upcoming article in Blue Water Sailing magazine.Pete
On 10/15/2010 11:32 PM, Herbc wrote:
look thru post for fuel tanks and trying to get a handle on the issue. Took a look at the pdf that was good info. Some references to cutting some on the cross beam and my PO Don mentioned cutting out the old tank and reinstalling 2 tanks.
Had a fellow down today to look at the situation and he will contact some fabricators and work up a price.
Are there some pics I missed or any suggestions on how to proceed.thanks in advance.
Herb
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Hi Pete,
I am really interested in your tank fabrication.I have a guy here that is
really good with boats and fiberglas and could probably fabricate a tank for
me.When will you share something with the association? Also- with all the work
you’re doing- coming back to the East Coast? soon?
Fuel tank-HERB- the tank can be cut up without violating the cradle.I had mine
sawzawed and had 2 tanks fabricated in Florida from the original mfgr.It allowed
me not to pull the engine.________________________________
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I had some contact with the manufacturer as labeled on my original tank.
Here’s the contact info if anyone needs it.Daniela Fiori Jones
Florida Marine Tanks, Inc
120 Peter Gill Rd
Henderson, NC 27536
305-620-9030 x330-p
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 5:40 PM, joe shimkonis wrote:
Quote:Hi Pete,
I am really interested in your tank fabrication.I have a guy here that
is
really good with boats and fiberglas and could probably fabricate a tank
for
me.When will you share something with the association? Also- with all the
work
you’re doing- coming back to the East Coast? soon?
Fuel tank-HERB- the tank can be cut up without violating the cradle.I had
mine
sawzawed and had 2 tanks fabricated in Florida from the original mfgr.It
allowed
me not to pull the engine.________________________________
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Thanks Dawn and Patrick! -
If you have access to a small crane, removing your engine isn’t a big deal and lets you get in there to clean things up and possibly repaint your engine. Many sign companies will hire their crane out for a nominal fee. Pulling your engine is a one day job. Its all simple wrench-work.
Once your engine is out, pulling the tanks is straightforward. Its probably another one day job.
Putting everything back together should take another couple of days, assuming you don’t spend too much time running around for odd fasteners and other parts.
Rich
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Herb
Florida marine tanks, which made the OEM tank, made my replacement it
included a sending unit for the gauge and all the fittings. The cost was
$760. That was two years ago and there was no shipping because I picked it
up at the plant. They have a drawing on file and will send you a copy for
you to approve.Linus
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Joe,
Pictures of tank construction are now at http://drop.io/pearson424
Pete
On 10/17/2010 6:40 PM, joe shimkonis wrote:
Quote:Hi Pete,
I am really interested in your tank fabrication.I have a guy here that is
really good with boats and fiberglas and could probably fabricate a tank for
me.When will you share something with the association? Also- with all the work
you’re doing- coming back to the East Coast? soon?
Fuel tank-HERB- the tank can be cut up without violating the cradle.I had mine
sawzawed and had 2 tanks fabricated in Florida from the original mfgr.It allowed
me not to pull the engine.________________________________
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I think I am missing something… I sent them to the dropio address
this morning… Normally pics appear right away.On 10/19/2010 5:59 PM, joe shimkonis wrote:
Quote:not sure I saw a fuel tank in these photos- am I missing something?________________________________
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Have been out cruising the Sound and waiting on the Pro to get back to us with a quote. Would really like to see the option for 95 gallons under the sole. Sound cool. Sorry the pics did not get posted, could see the genset going in though, great idea.
Nothing is going to happen very fast, as we go forward with our plan. May have to wait for the article.
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Okay gang, go here:
http://www.dublerfamily.com/Regina_oceani/Regina_Oceani.html
and then see the New October 2010 link for photos of the fuel tank
project. I will let you know when the full article will be published as
soon as I know.Pete
On 10/22/2010 11:05 PM, Herbc wrote:
Have been out cruising the Sound and waiting on the Pro to get back to us with a quote. Would really like to see the option for 95 gallons under the sole. Sound cool. Sorry the pics did not get posted, could see the genset going in though, great idea.
Nothing is going to happen very fast, as we go forward with our plan. May have to wait for the article.
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You have to note that the biggest sheet of material you can get down the
companionway is about 41″ wide (on my boat). This is the limit you have
to work with. As such, you could never get an aluminum tank this size
into the boat.Pressure testing the tank to at least 3psi is stressful and not for the
weak of heart… I made an 8′ tall manometer and tested to 90″ of water
column. (air pressure in the tank, not water in the tank – dismiss all
the b.s. out there on the net about testing the tank by filling it with
water and pressurizing the water. The USCG procedure clearly states
pressurizing with air.One might consider making two parallel tanks along the centerline with
the top joined down the middle or just joining the top to the centerline
baffle in order to reduce the effective surface area of the top that the
pressure is pushing up against….3psi pushing up over about 20 sq feet
is a lot of force…The top is not just held on by the hull and deck putty. There are
layers of mat tape over the joint, wrapping the top and side, after it
is faired with the putty on the outside.Fiberglass is not cheaper than aluminum but you will never get a tank
made out of aluminum that would use up all of this available volume or
for that matter get one down the companionway.Lots more details in the upcoming article.
Pete
On 10/23/2010 10:25 AM, Herbc wrote:
Saw the photos. That is very impressive. The pros are mentioned. Any cons that have come about, now that it is done. I will consider this an option.
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For the aluminum tank to replace the original? That is way high. It
should be around $750 (plus shipping). That would include an electric
sender and all the fittings.Pete
On 10/28/2010 9:04 PM, Herbc wrote:
The fabricators are coming back in the 1200.00 range.
How does that seem to fit ball park, high or low. just right?
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This is the info back from Fl Marine Tanks
“A fuel tank with the provided specifications would be 80 gallons or two 40 gallon tanks. The tank will be manufactured from .125 aluminum at a cost of $900.00 or $450.00 per 40 gallon tank.”
They require a drawing of the installation, (no problem, have an engineer onboard at all times) and does not include shipping.
I am leaning heavy towards split tank so can do myself without eng removal.
Any advice is always appreciated.
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