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    • #68751
      petedd
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      I am getting ready to put my rig back together and noted that the goose
      neck pin (bolt) (the one with the reefing hooks) has a lot of play
      relative to the bushing. The bolt is 1/2″ and the bushing it 3/4″. It
      this supposed to be this loose or am I missing an insert (nylon or
      otherwise) here? See picture below.

      Thanks,

      Pete

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    • #79817
      patn
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      hmm… picture??

      – p

      Pete Dubler wrote, On 7/13/13 9:44 PM:

      I am getting ready to put my rig back together and noted that the
      goose neck pin (bolt) (the one with the reefing hooks) has a lot of
      play relative to the bushing. The bolt is 1/2″ and the bushing it
      3/4″. It this supposed to be this loose or am I missing an insert
      (nylon or otherwise) here? See picture below.

      Thanks,

      Pete

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    • #79820
      petedd
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      The picture is pasted above

      On 7/13/2013 8:55 PM, pat noordsij wrote:

      hmm… picture??

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      Pete Dubler wrote, On 7/13/13 9:44 PM:

      I am getting ready to put my rig back together and noted that the
      goose neck pin (bolt) (the one with the reefing hooks) has a lot of
      play relative to the bushing. The bolt is 1/2″ and the bushing it
      3/4″. It this supposed to be this loose or am I missing an insert
      (nylon or otherwise) here? See picture below.

      Thanks,

      Pete

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    • #79821
      petedd
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      Let’s try one more time. The picture is attached instead of pasted…

      On 7/13/2013 8:55 PM, pat noordsij wrote:

      hmm… picture??

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      Pete Dubler wrote, On 7/13/13 9:44 PM:

      I am getting ready to put my rig back together and noted that the
      goose neck pin (bolt) (the one with the reefing hooks) has a lot of
      play relative to the bushing. The bolt is 1/2″ and the bushing it
      3/4″. It this supposed to be this loose or am I missing an insert
      (nylon or otherwise) here? See picture below.

      Thanks,

      Pete

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    • #79822
      john stevenson
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      Pete,
      I can’t see the bushing on my gooseneck without taking it apart, but I
      definitely don’t have any play in the fitting. There must be a missing
      bushing.

      Regards,
      John Stevenson
      http://www.svsarah.com

      On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Pete Dubler wrote:

      Let’s try one more time. The picture is attached instead of pasted…

      On 7/13/2013 8:55 PM, pat noordsij wrote:

      hmm… picture??

      – p

      Pete Dubler wrote, On 7/13/13 9:44 PM:

      I am getting ready to put my rig back together and noted that the goose
      neck pin (bolt) (the one with the reefing hooks) has a lot of play relative
      to the bushing. The bolt is 1/2″ and the bushing it 3/4″. It this supposed
      to be this loose or am I missing an insert (nylon or otherwise) here? See
      picture below.

      Thanks,

      Pete

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    • #79823
      petedd
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      Thanks John.
      On 7/14/2013 10:46 AM, John Stevenson wrote:

      Pete,
      I can’t see the bushing on my gooseneck without taking it apart, but I
      definitely don’t have any play in the fitting. There must be a missing
      bushing.

      Regards,
      John Stevenson
      http://www.svsarah.com

      On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Pete Dubler wrote:

      Let’s try one more time. The picture is attached instead of pasted…

      On 7/13/2013 8:55 PM, pat noordsij wrote:

      hmm… picture??

      – p

      Pete Dubler wrote, On 7/13/13 9:44 PM:

      I am getting ready to put my rig back together and noted that the goose
      neck pin (bolt) (the one with the reefing hooks) has a lot of play relative
      to the bushing. The bolt is 1/2″ and the bushing it 3/4″. It this supposed
      to be this loose or am I missing an insert (nylon or otherwise) here? See
      picture below.

      Thanks,

      Pete

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    • #79824
      Anonymous

      Not ever really looking at the details of the gooseneck on the 424 but having fabricated from wood and had cast, then machined and installed custom bronze goosenecks on a 50′ schooner, I can tell you for sure from that picture “something is missing” !

      Is it possible the mating boom fitting fits in as what appears to be a missing bushing?

    • #79825
      Anonymous

      Unrelated to the gooseneck(sorry pete)… I have a question for an administrator or anyone really……why can I not edit my comments, add pictures etc on this “mailing list” thread, but on the “chit chat” thread I have full use these abilities?

    • #79826
      unabated
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      RigRite has parts. They’re bastards to deal with though !

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      On Jul 14, 2013, at 4:52 PM, “Page Two” wrote:

      Not ever really looking at the details of the gooseneck on the 424 but having fabricated from wood and had cast, then machined and installed custom bronze goosenecks on a 50′ schooner, I can tell you for sure from that picture “something is missing” !

      Is it possible the mating boom fitting fits in as what appears to be a missing bushing?


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    • #79827
      petedd
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      I can come up with a bushing of those dimensions pretty easily.  Thanks folks
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    • #79831
      RichCarter
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      I have a bit of play in my gooseneck but not what I would call unusual. I took a close look at your photo and your fitting looks a bit different. I’ll send a photo of mine as shortly. Mine has a steel pin through the mast fitting as yours (3/8″?). The gooseneck fitting is a flat plate bent over a steel bushing whereas yours looks to be plastic. My steel bushing is welded to the plate. While examining mine, I noticed cracking near the pin. If you hadn’t sent your question, I would have never noticed until it failed. I’ll send it out to a welding shop this winter. I suggest that other owners inspect theirs.

      My guess is that Pearson had some failures in the first few model years and redesigned the gooseneck to include a plastic bushing. This probably absorbs some of the shock load on a gybe. The plastic bushing is much larger in diameter. It may have deformed after several years of service and give some play to the fitting. A good hardware store may have a replacement.

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    • #79833
      petedd
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      Rich,

      Pin is 1/2″ – the whole thing is not shown. It has hooks on the top for
      reefing.
      Everything is metal. No plastic.

      Pete

      On 7/15/2013 7:05 AM, wrote:

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      I have a bit of play in my gooseneck but not what I would call unusual. I took a close look at your photo and your fitting looks a bit different. I’ll send a photo of mine as shortly. Mine has a steel pin through the mast fitting as yours (3/8″?). The gooseneck fitting is a flat plate bent over a steel bushing whereas yours looks to be plastic. My steel bushing is welded to the plate. While examining mine, I noticed cracking near the pin. If you hadn’t sent your question, I would have never noticed until it failed. I’ll send it out to a welding shop this winter. I suggest that other owners inspect theirs.

      My guess is that Pearson had some failures in the first few model years and redesigned the gooseneck to include a plastic bushing. This probably absorbs some of the shock load on a gybe. The plastic bushing is much larger in diameter. It may have deformed after several years of service and give some play to the fitting. A good hardware store may have a replacement.

      Regards
      Rich


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    • #79834
      RichCarter
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      Peter
      Your bushing is much thicker than mine. Yours looks bronze. Mine is stainless. On mine, side plate is just folded across the roll-pin which is welded to the plate. There are fine cracks on each side. There is also a tang on the center pin under the rod that mounts the reef hooks. It fits between the side-plates. Yours bulges out to support your thicker bushing. I have hull #47.

      Your bushing appears to have quite a lot of clearance for the center pin. It almost appears that your bushing is the wrong size. I wonder if your original fitting broke and was replaced with a close match. If someone replaced the fitting at some point, the tang would have needed to be cut off to accommodate the thicker bushing. A replacement bushing might solve your problem. Look for axle bushings at tractor-supply.

      Rig-right has several possible replacements.
      http://www.rigrite.com/Spars/SparParts/Gooseneck_toggles.html#Gooseneck%20Toggles%20for%20a%201/2%22%20Vertical%20Pin

      Rich


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      RichCarter
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      Photo attached


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    • #79838
      petedd
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      Thanks Rich. They are definitely different.

      Pete

      On 7/16/2013 5:35 AM, Rich Carter wrote:

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