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Does anyone know how/where to download the program for reading GRIB weather
files, and then where exactly to get them to read? I’m having a heck of a
time finding this info. I’ve found the program, but with all kinds of
“hitches” attached, or else with no hitches attached but the website doesn’t
work. Wha?Thanks,
Tor
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Great article by Bill Biewenga this month in Blue Water Sailing on free
online weather tools. For GRIB files, he suggests http://www.grib.usThere are links at that site for GRIB viewing software, ugrib, which is
free.Hope that helps some,
Pete
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Does anyone know how/where to download the program for reading GRIB weather
files, and then where exactly to get them to read? I’m having a heck of a
time finding this info. I’ve found the program, but with all kinds of
“hitches” attached, or else with no hitches attached but the website doesn’t
work. Wha?Thanks,
Tor
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Hey Pete,
Been there done that. Grib.us promises all of it, but I can’t get the site
to work. The links don’t link to anything. When it says “Next” and I click
on that text link, nothing happens. Maybe it’s my computer (although it’s
pretty new, w/Windows 7, and it works everywhere else). Maybe it’s the good
Barbados rum I stocked up on duty-free in Sint Maarten. Whatever, I can’t
get grib.us to give me the program.If anyone has this program and can email the .exe file to me, or else can
tell me where I can download it from a functioning website, I’d be grateful.Tor
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Tor,
Did you register at the site for a login and then get a confirming email
with a link in it?I just did all that and am having fun checking out the software. The
tradewinds are real.Pete
On 6/20/2013 4:27 PM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:Hey Pete,Been there done that. Grib.us promises all of it, but I can’t get the site
to work. The links don’t link to anything. When it says “Next” and I click
on that text link, nothing happens. Maybe it’s my computer (although it’s
pretty new, w/Windows 7, and it works everywhere else). Maybe it’s the good
Barbados rum I stocked up on duty-free in Sint Maarten. Whatever, I can’t
get grib.us to give me the program.If anyone has this program and can email the .exe file to me, or else can
tell me where I can download it from a functioning website, I’d be grateful.Tor
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I tried just going there and all I got was a blank page. Apparently they
have some technical problems.Bob
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Pete Dubler wrote:
Quote:Tor,Did you register at the site for a login and then get a confirming email
with a link in it?I just did all that and am having fun checking out the software. The
tradewinds are real.Pete
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Quote:Hey Pete,Been there done that. Grib.us promises all of it, but I can’t get the site
to work. The links don’t link to anything. When it says “Next” and I click
on that text link, nothing happens. Maybe it’s my computer (although it’s
pretty new, w/Windows 7, and it works everywhere else). Maybe it’s the
good
Barbados rum I stocked up on duty-free in Sint Maarten. Whatever, I can’t
get grib.us to give me the program.If anyone has this program and can email the .exe file to me, or else can
tell me where I can download it from a functioning website, I’d be
grateful.Tor
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I’ve used Grib .us for a number of years. I use it on my netbook. The nice thing about that program is you can download the files from a number of different sources including single side band, Internet and sat phone and view them on there.
Also if you have single sideband sailmail comes with a grib file viewer so that you can download the Grib files directly and view them within sailmail.
AlanSent from my iPhone
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Quote:Hey Pete,Been there done that. Grib.us promises all of it, but I can’t get the site
to work. The links don’t link to anything. When it says “Next” and I click
on that text link, nothing happens. Maybe it’s my computer (although it’s
pretty new, w/Windows 7, and it works everywhere else). Maybe it’s the good
Barbados rum I stocked up on duty-free in Sint Maarten. Whatever, I can’t
get grib.us to give me the program.If anyone has this program and can email the .exe file to me, or else can
tell me where I can download it from a functioning website, I’d be grateful.Tor
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Must be some glitch at my end. I’ve registered several times, or at least
went through the motions. Never received a confirming email, though, so I
guess it didn’t take. Is there any way you can email me the .exe for that
program?As for “real” trade winds, I’ve had a bellyful of ’em. Now at long last I’ve
reached the Windward Islands once again am feeling cocky about the rest of
the trip to the Grenadines, but up ’til now it has been a struggle. Had to
sail 1800 n. miles via Bermuda just to go 1200 to St. Martin, then went head
to head with those damned trades to get to Guadeloupe. I got there, but I’d
say the wind got the better of me that round
(http://www.silverheels.us/logblog.htm). We got our asses whooped.Anyway, Martinique is as wonderful as ever. If only I spoke French…
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Sounds lovely, Alan. You’ve always been the smart one. Now, if only I could
download the program…
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Thank you, Bob. Maybe I’m not completely senile yet, after all.
Still seeking functional suggestions about how/where to download that
program. Anyone?Tor
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The problem I think if you just had the app is that you still need an account to use their nifty area selecting feature where you just drag the mouse to specify any rectangular area that you want to view and then it downloads the data for that area.
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Sorry to jump into this so late, but I’ve experienced some of Tor’s
frustration with GRIB.US. I get the impression that whatever was the
original business plan for this operation it never took off, and they’ve
just left the site up on autopilot.
Several years ago they implemented a policy of locking out users they
thought were miss-using the free software. For some reason I kept getting
caught in that net. I would send an email to the website as they
requested, and sometimes my access would be restored. However as soon as I
switched to another PC I would be locked out again. I finally gave up for
several years, just checking occasionally to see if I could get back in.
Last year I noticed I had access again, and it has been working since (I
still change PCs between when dockside and underway or at anchor).
So there is hope.
Pete is right, without an account having the software is of no value.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:48 PM, pete wrote:
Quote:The problem I think if you just had the app is that you still need an
account to use their nifty area selecting feature where you just drag the
mouse to specify any rectangular area that you want to view and then it
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Hallelujah, I have managed to register – got the elusive confirmation email
& all – and I am now logged in despite the site’s best efforts to prevent
that. However, the program Download button is not functioning. Is there a
way I can get the program from one of you who has it? Can anyone email me
the setup.exe for it?Thanks,
Tor
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Tor,
I just downloaded the file with no problems. However I can’t send it as an
attachment (even in a zip file). Gmail doesn’t allow it.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:Hallelujah, I have managed to register – got the elusive confirmation email
& all – and I am now logged in despite the site’s best efforts to prevent
that. However, the program Download button is not functioning. Is there a
way I can get the program from one of you who has it? Can anyone email me
the setup.exe for it?Thanks,
Tor
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That’s great news, John. At least I know the glitch is at my end. Probably
something in my computer blocking the download, or else the weak wifi signal
here is causing the problem. I’ll mess with it some more. I was able to
download a weather data file, but of course can’t open it without the UGRIB
software.If anyone with has that UGRIB program (and an unrestricted email server),
please send it to me, zipped or otherwise:Thanks all,
Tor
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Thanks to you that helped me out with this, especially Pete for making the
program setup file available to me. That got it onto my newer (Windows 7)
laptop. Meanwhile, to attempt a different approach, I logged on with my
older (Windows XP) nav station laptop and SHAZAM! It downloaded the program
on the first try. Obviously there was something in my new computer that
wasn’t functioning with the grib.us website. Anyway, I now have the program
on both machines, am beginning to play with it, and it is awesome. Better
than passageweather in that GRIB forecasts rainfall in addition to wind.I’m anxious to learn how to download this data via SSB. I expect I’ll figure
it out in time, but if anyone is familiar with the procedure and cares to
share the knowledge, I’d be grateful for it. (Alan? It’s thanks to your wifi
antenna recommendation a few years ago that I’m online at all in this
harbor.)Tor
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Tor,
Using Ugrib to display the GRIB data retrieved via SSB is just a matter of
having Airmail and Ugrib use the same folder to save and retrieve the GRIBs.
When using the SSB to retrieve GRIBs I normally use the Airmail viewer
rather than Ugrib. I use Ugrib for planning and in-harbor weather
forecasts when connected to the Internet via WIFI or Internet Cafe. I just
don’t have enough bandwidth on the SSB to download the large GRIBs I use
with Ugrib. For the smaller SSB GRIBs the Airmail viewer is more than
adequate. You can also display the GRIBs on a navigation chart via OpenCPN
or other chart plotters, although I don’t find this as useful as the Ugrib
and Airmail viewers.I published a web page on retrieving weather data via SSB back in 2007,
just before I left Portugal to return to the USA:
http://www.svsarah.com/Sailing/ewWxDocSchedules.htm
This is most likely more information than you are interested in, but I do
discuss the fact that weather data is perishable and you need to be sure
you are getting the most recent data available. I describe how I schedule
the document retrievals to provide the best chance to get the most current
forecast. When a GRIB is first published it is already 6 hours after the
data on which the forecast is based (takes a lot of computer time to crunch
a world-wide model). However, if you miss-time the retrieval and get an
old GRIB just before the new one is published, the difference can be as
much as 12 hours.The rest of the page reflects my past as a weather forecaster – I can never
have too much data.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:Thanks to you that helped me out with this, especially Pete for making the
program setup file available to me. That got it onto my newer (Windows 7)
laptop. Meanwhile, to attempt a different approach, I logged on with my
older (Windows XP) nav station laptop and SHAZAM! It downloaded the program
on the first try. Obviously there was something in my new computer that
wasn’t functioning with the grib.us website. Anyway, I now have the
program
on both machines, am beginning to play with it, and it is awesome. Better
than passageweather in that GRIB forecasts rainfall in addition to wind.I’m anxious to learn how to download this data via SSB. I expect I’ll
figure
it out in time, but if anyone is familiar with the procedure and cares to
share the knowledge, I’d be grateful for it. (Alan? It’s thanks to your
wifi
antenna recommendation a few years ago that I’m online at all in this
harbor.)Tor
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Do you have a pactor modem and airmail set-up? If so, in airmail you
can set up to have various weather faxes, synopses, and other files such
as grib files downloaded to you (actually queued up automatically so
when you check your email they download) by using those features in Airmail.Pete
On 6/21/2013 12:50 PM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:Thanks to you that helped me out with this, especially Pete for making the
program setup file available to me. That got it onto my newer (Windows 7)
laptop. Meanwhile, to attempt a different approach, I logged on with my
older (Windows XP) nav station laptop and SHAZAM! It downloaded the program
on the first try. Obviously there was something in my new computer that
wasn’t functioning with the grib.us website. Anyway, I now have the program
on both machines, am beginning to play with it, and it is awesome. Better
than passageweather in that GRIB forecasts rainfall in addition to wind.I’m anxious to learn how to download this data via SSB. I expect I’ll figure
it out in time, but if anyone is familiar with the procedure and cares to
share the knowledge, I’d be grateful for it. (Alan? It’s thanks to your wifi
antenna recommendation a few years ago that I’m online at all in this
harbor.)Tor
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Next we get into the interesting discussions of 500mb charts vs surface
charts etc.
I did the Starpath adv marine meteorology course many years ago and
continued to study weather after that. Ended up teaching a class for a
few years in high school. I found the best way to learn it is to just
look at the 500mb, surface, and synopses everyday for several months for
various areas of the world. Pretty soon you see how things develop and
flow and how the stuff aloft leads to what the TV weather guy tells us.
(of course, doing some textbook work helps too) (not unlike learning to
trade stocks)Pete
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Quote:Tor,
Using Ugrib to display the GRIB data retrieved via SSB is just a matter of
having Airmail and Ugrib use the same folder to save and retrieve the GRIBs.
When using the SSB to retrieve GRIBs I normally use the Airmail viewer
rather than Ugrib. I use Ugrib for planning and in-harbor weather
forecasts when connected to the Internet via WIFI or Internet Cafe. I just
don’t have enough bandwidth on the SSB to download the large GRIBs I use
with Ugrib. For the smaller SSB GRIBs the Airmail viewer is more than
adequate. You can also display the GRIBs on a navigation chart via OpenCPN
or other chart plotters, although I don’t find this as useful as the Ugrib
and Airmail viewers.I published a web page on retrieving weather data via SSB back in 2007,
just before I left Portugal to return to the USA:
http://www.svsarah.com/Sailing/ewWxDocSchedules.htm
This is most likely more information than you are interested in, but I do
discuss the fact that weather data is perishable and you need to be sure
you are getting the most recent data available. I describe how I schedule
the document retrievals to provide the best chance to get the most current
forecast. When a GRIB is first published it is already 6 hours after the
data on which the forecast is based (takes a lot of computer time to crunch
a world-wide model). However, if you miss-time the retrieval and get an
old GRIB just before the new one is published, the difference can be as
much as 12 hours.The rest of the page reflects my past as a weather forecaster – I can never
have too much data.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:Thanks to you that helped me out with this, especially Pete for making the
program setup file available to me. That got it onto my newer (Windows 7)
laptop. Meanwhile, to attempt a different approach, I logged on with my
older (Windows XP) nav station laptop and SHAZAM! It downloaded the program
on the first try. Obviously there was something in my new computer that
wasn’t functioning with the grib.us website. Anyway, I now have the
program
on both machines, am beginning to play with it, and it is awesome. Better
than passageweather in that GRIB forecasts rainfall in addition to wind.I’m anxious to learn how to download this data via SSB. I expect I’ll
figure
it out in time, but if anyone is familiar with the procedure and cares to
share the knowledge, I’d be grateful for it. (Alan? It’s thanks to your
wifi
antenna recommendation a few years ago that I’m online at all in this
harbor.)Tor
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Que bueno! Thanks, John. I look forward to reading your page. I also have to
educate myself about airmail/sailmail, never having used either. Something
I’ve already gleaned from the GRIB files, though, is that if I don’t sail
from Martinique to Bequia in the next 2 days, I’d better wait until next
Thursday. Well, I’m tired of racing south – been at it for a solid month,
now – so I’m just going to slow it down to island time and enjoy Martinique
for a week. C’est la vie. And that being the case, I now have time to learn
this stuff, beginning with Stevenson’s SSB Weather 101.I have a monaural cable to connect my SSB to the laptop’s line-in jack. Will
I need additional hardware?Tor
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That’s funny. I just spent most of this past winter studying market-related
economics. I guess weather’s next. Of the two, I’m pretty sure weather
forecasting is by far the more reliable.Tor
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Nope, no pactor modem or airmail set-up. I guess it’s time I put away my
sextant and catch up. I seem to recall that airmail is only for hams, which
I am not. I’ll look into it. Any recommendations regarding pactor modems?Tor
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PActor modems are quite expensive. The best place to learn how to set one up and get it working would be dockside radio.com. The newest technology to come along is using your sound card on your laptop computer. but that’s a little techno wienie for Tor I’m sure.
I’m Flying to Bermuda on Monday and sailing back to New York City on 46 foot catamaran, should be fun.
AlanSent from my iPhone
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Quote:Nope, no pactor modem or airmail set-up. I guess it’s time I put away my
sextant and catch up. I seem to recall that airmail is only for hams, which
I am not. I’ll look into it. Any recommendations regarding pactor modems?Tor
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There is a newer yet pactor protocol and modem which might mean a lot of
rich folks upgrading and putting their older, but very serviceable
pactor modems up for sale.On 6/21/2013 2:25 PM, Alan wrote:
Quote:PActor modems are quite expensive. The best place to learn how to set one up and get it working would be dockside radio.com. The newest technology to come along is using your sound card on your laptop computer. but that’s a little techno wienie for Tor I’m sure.
I’m Flying to Bermuda on Monday and sailing back to New York City on 46 foot catamaran, should be fun.
AlanSent from my iPhone
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Quote:Nope, no pactor modem or airmail set-up. I guess it’s time I put away my
sextant and catch up. I seem to recall that airmail is only for hams, which
I am not. I’ll look into it. Any recommendations regarding pactor modems?Tor
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Ah, now that sounds like my kind of shopping. Ebay, perhaps?
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Alan,
Lucky you! I’ve been wanting to do an offshore passage on a cat. I’m curious
about how they sail & feel.I’m not a techie, but I am reasonably literate. Is there some software out
there that can turn my computer’s sound card into a surrogate pactor modem?By the way, Alan, I take back half of what I said about Bermuda. Other than
locking up my rifles on arrival, the clearing-in & out was painless and,
incredibly, free of charges. I stand corrected on that one. However,
regarding “expensive,” beers and munchies for the crew at the Whithorse
Tavern in St. Georges cost this captain over $200 in one happy hour. On the
plus side, I ran into two old sailing buddies there and enjoyed touring the
island by bus & ferry. Nice place, conveniently located. I’ll be more
inclined to stop there next time.Tor
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Tor,
Here is a link to the Winmor software,
which uses the soundcard to talk to the
SSB. I’ve not looked into it so I
can’t offer any advice (not informed advice anyway).
You don’t need a Ham license for SailMail, but it costs $250/year. Winlink
is free, but requires the license.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:Alan,Lucky you! I’ve been wanting to do an offshore passage on a cat. I’m
curious
about how they sail & feel.I’m not a techie, but I am reasonably literate. Is there some software out
there that can turn my computer’s sound card into a surrogate pactor modem?By the way, Alan, I take back half of what I said about Bermuda. Other than
locking up my rifles on arrival, the clearing-in & out was painless and,
incredibly, free of charges. I stand corrected on that one. However,
regarding “expensive,” beers and munchies for the crew at the Whithorse
Tavern in St. Georges cost this captain over $200 in one happy hour. On the
plus side, I ran into two old sailing buddies there and enjoyed touring the
island by bus & ferry. Nice place, conveniently located. I’ll be more
inclined to stop there next time.Tor
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Winmor I understand is about a Pactor-II equivalent in terms of speed
and maybe not as noise/bad signal resilient. Pactor-III is 3 to 4X
faster than Pactor-II. Pactor-IV is supposed to be about 2X faster than
Pactor-III. (so 6 to 8 times faster than Pactor-II) But man-oh-man, the
SCS modem prices are just silly any more.On 6/21/2013 4:25 PM, John Stevenson wrote:
Quote:Tor,
Here is a link to the Winmor software,
which uses the soundcard to talk to the
SSB. I’ve not looked into it so I
can’t offer any advice (not informed advice anyway).
You don’t need a Ham license for SailMail, but it costs $250/year. Winlink
is free, but requires the license.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:Alan,Lucky you! I’ve been wanting to do an offshore passage on a cat. I’m
curious
about how they sail & feel.I’m not a techie, but I am reasonably literate. Is there some software out
there that can turn my computer’s sound card into a surrogate pactor modem?By the way, Alan, I take back half of what I said about Bermuda. Other than
locking up my rifles on arrival, the clearing-in & out was painless and,
incredibly, free of charges. I stand corrected on that one. However,
regarding “expensive,” beers and munchies for the crew at the Whithorse
Tavern in St. Georges cost this captain over $200 in one happy hour. On the
plus side, I ran into two old sailing buddies there and enjoyed touring the
island by bus & ferry. Nice place, conveniently located. I’ll be more
inclined to stop there next time.Tor
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I guess there is a point of diminishing returns. I’m not doing all that much
offshore sailing these days, my recent 2000 nm trip excepted. I may not need
the Full GRIB Monty. Gotta’ sort through it first, then decide what makes
sense. Sounds like it might be cheaper to buy a Sat Phone and simply call
Alan for weather updates.🙂
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Too soon for me, John. This is all too new. I’ve got time on my side since
I’ll be hiding out in the Grenadines for the season. Once I’ve absorbed some
of this new (to me) technological information, I’ll be able to make some
informed decisions regarding what to buy and what to steal.Tor
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Not sure if it is still the case, but some of the winlink stations would
limit your connect time to a certain amount, like 30 minutes per day.
That is where the faster modems really made a difference.Pete
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Quote:I guess there is a point of diminishing returns. I’m not doing all that much
offshore sailing these days, my recent 2000 nm trip excepted. I may not need
the Full GRIB Monty. Gotta’ sort through it first, then decide what makes
sense. Sounds like it might be cheaper to buy a Sat Phone and simply call
Alan for weather updates.🙂
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I’ve got a lot to learn.
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Wow, that Winmor software is cool, John. It and Winlink would certainly make
sense for me if I could use them. Not sure it’s worth becoming a Ham to gain
access, though. I like the perks, but have little interest in the technology
and jargon. In my case the rare need for weather info (and the non-need for
email) while offshore probably doesn’t warrant the bother of becoming a Ham
or the expense of doing it as a non-Ham. Good to know it exists, though.In any case, I’ve now have GRIB whenever I can get online, so I’m better off
than I was a few days ago.Tor
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I did my ham exam last winter in Georgetown, Bahamas took both general and tech the same day. minimal amount of studying just have to learn the answers not the material.
AlanSent from my iPhone
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Quote:Not hard to become a ham. There often are one day study. Learn the answers. Take the test seminars at boat shows and ssca gamsSent from my Android smartphone with a spell checker that is programmed to entertain you.
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Wow, that could work. Maybe I can find something like that in Grenada, in
which case it all becomes feasible.Thanks,
Tor
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Yes, the Morse code was dropped a few years ago. Right after I took that
test, IIRC.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 11:10 AM, quent wrote:
Did they drop the Morse code requirement? That’s always been a little
beyond me.
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Tor: I am late getting in on this discussion, its all been said, but I do recommend the UGRIB over other grib files. Igrib is available on the iPhone which is handy except in other countries where I dont have cell service. I’ve been using it for about 3 years and like the way you see wind, rain and isobars wherever the curser is. Good for crossings planning and it gives you 7 days. It is as accurate as anything else in the world, though it is still a “forecast”. One drawback is that it is in UTC time, and that forces me to think backwards 5 or 6 hours. If there is a way to set it for local time, someone let me know.
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I am trucking my 424 moved from TX to San Diego and the trucker needs to know the weight. Does anyone know the out of water weight of a 424. I know the displacement, but I cannot find the dry weight info.
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Steve,
Any reason the displacement won’t provide the necessary info for the
shipper? I assume the published displacement for the 424 includes full
fuel and water tanks, normal stores, sails and people and it should be more
than dry weight for shipment. You will likely have empty water tanks, a
nearly empty fuel tank and no people on board.
If you need an accurate dry weight, some travel lifts have a weight gauge,
which you can provide the shipper upon haul out.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Steven Weinberg, Ph.D.
wrote:I am trucking my 424 moved from TX to San Diego and the trucker needs to
know the weight. Does anyone know the out of water weight of a 424. I
know the displacement, but I cannot find the dry weight info.Steve
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Stated dry weight in catalog is 23,000 lbs.
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Jun 25, 2013 1:41 PM, “John Stevenson” wrote:Steve,
Any reason the displacement won’t provide the necessary info for the
shipper? I assume the published displacement for the 424 includes full
fuel and water tanks, normal stores, sails and people and it should be more
than dry weight for shipment. You will likely have empty water tanks, a
nearly empty fuel tank and no people on board.
If you need an accurate dry weight, some travel lifts have a weight gauge,
which you can provide the shipper upon haul out.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Steven Weinberg, Ph.D.
wrote:I am trucking my 424 moved from TX to San Diego and the trucker needs to
know the weight. Does anyone know the out of water weight of a 424. I
know the displacement, but I cannot find the dry weight info.Steve
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Mine weighed in at 24,000 on the lift at the yard. I need to put my boat on
a diet!
Bill
SV Running TabOn Tuesday, June 25, 2013, Robert Fine wrote:
Stated dry weight in catalog is 23,000 lbs.
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Jun 25, 2013 1:41 PM, “John Stevenson” <>
wrote:Steve,
Any reason the displacement won’t provide the necessary info for the
shipper? I assume the published displacement for the 424 includes full
fuel and water tanks, normal stores, sails and people and it should bemore
than dry weight for shipment. You will likely have empty water tanks, a
nearly empty fuel tank and no people on board.
If you need an accurate dry weight, some travel lifts have a weightgauge,
which you can provide the shipper upon haul out.
Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Steven Weinberg, Ph.D.
< >wrote:I am trucking my 424 moved from TX to San Diego and the trucker needs
to
know the weight. Does anyone know the out of water weight of a 424. I
know the displacement, but I cannot find the dry weight info.Steve
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Boy. I must not understand displacement or dry weight or both. I thought
the dry weight is the weight of the boat coming off the factory floor
(i.e., no fluids or stores). Displacement is the designer/builder’s
estimate of the weight in the water will full tanks, reasonable stores,
etc. If the catalog Bob references is correct the dry weight is greater
than the displacement (21,000 lbs).Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Robert Fine wrote:
Stated dry weight in catalog is 23,000 lbs.
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Jun 25, 2013 1:41 PM, “John Stevenson”
wrote:Steve,
Any reason the displacement won’t provide the necessary info for the
shipper? I assume the published displacement for the 424 includes full
fuel and water tanks, normal stores, sails and people and it should bemore
than dry weight for shipment. You will likely have empty water tanks, a
nearly empty fuel tank and no people on board.
If you need an accurate dry weight, some travel lifts have a weightgauge,
which you can provide the shipper upon haul out.
Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Steven Weinberg, Ph.D.
wrote:I am trucking my 424 moved from TX to San Diego and the trucker needs
to
know the weight. Does anyone know the out of water weight of a 424. I
know the displacement, but I cannot find the dry weight info.Steve
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Charlie,
Now that I’ve had a chance to use UGRIB, I find it and passageweather both
have advantages. I appreciate the UGRIB cursor box selection feature and the
GRIB files rain forecasts, but really like passageweather’s wind velocity
color coding, which makes it a lot easier to see those patterns develop and
move. So now I check both when I get online.Tor
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Most truckers weigh the load once it’s loaded.I would think giving the trucker a range will enable him to give you an estimated fee.Long distance household moves are always billed at actual weight hauled.
You’re probably between 22000 and 24500 depending on water,personal items ,and equipment on board.________________________________
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The trucker I am dealing with only cares about not going over a certain
maximum weight but simply charges by the on-way mile ($4)Pete
On 6/25/2013 1:46 PM, joe shimkonis wrote:
Quote:Most truckers weigh the load once it’s loaded.I would think giving the trucker a range will enable him to give you an estimated fee.Long distance household moves are always billed at actual weight hauled.
You’re probably between 22000 and 24500 depending on water,personal items ,and equipment on board.________________________________
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