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Well, at least it happened here instead of down in the Bahamas
somewhere… I need a new heat exchanger for my W-60. One is available thru Westerbeke
for $900, but if any one has any ideas, a “spare”, or a parts link, please
let me know, thanks,
BILL~~~ ~ (_~~ (_~ ~ ~ fair winds ~ ~ (_
Capt Bill Tice, aboard s/v CHARISMA
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Hi Bill,
Just out of curiosity, why do you need a new one? I ask because I’ve often
wondered if they are repairable if it’s a leaking tube (if only one, you can
safely plug it. Actually, I’ve seen engines run quite happily with almost
50% plugged) If more than that, can it be re-tubed? It would be a long and
tedious process involving a drill, solder (or brazing), bronze tubing, and a
lot of patience. On the W58, I think repair would be possible.I don’t know where you’d get one, frankly, except Westerbeke, but I’d sure
like a whack at fixing it if you’re going to throw the old one away.Bob
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:31 PM, wrote:
Well, at least it happened here instead of down in the Bahamas
somewhere… I need a new heat exchanger for my W-60. One is available
thru Westerbeke
for $900, but if any one has any ideas, a “spare”, or a parts link, please
let me know, thanks,
BILL~~~ ~ (_~~ (_~ ~ ~ fair winds ~ ~ (_
Capt Bill Tice, aboard s/v CHARISMA
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Hey, Bob, thanks for getting back. The news came via phone today from my
Deltaville mechanic–I am 4 hours away at my Smith Mt Lake home, so I have
not seen it yet. I had been leaking coolant through both freeze plugs in the
H2O reservoir which he had fixed and pressure tested. But in reassembling
and testing he discover that my fresh mix is seeping into my raw H2O loop.
This solved the mystery of why I had been losing fluid in the reservoir.
I am going to the boat tomorrow and will be talking to him. Knowing Henry,
If it were at all possible to repair, he would. As for me doing it? HA!
Thanks again for the comeback, and if I don’t hang on to this exchanger,
it’s yours.
BILL~~~ ~ (_~~ (_~ ~ ~ fair winds ~ ~ (_
Capt Bill Tice, aboard s/v CHARISMAIn a message dated 4/1/2011 5:06:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
writes:Hi Bill,
Just out of curiosity, why do you need a new one? I ask because I’ve often
wondered if they are repairable if it’s a leaking tube (if only one, you
can
safely plug it. Actually, I’ve seen engines run quite happily with almost
50% plugged) If more than that, can it be re-tubed? It would be a long
and
tedious process involving a drill, solder (or brazing), bronze tubing, and
a
lot of patience. On the W58, I think repair would be possible.I don’t know where you’d get one, frankly, except Westerbeke, but I’d sure
like a whack at fixing it if you’re going to throw the old one away.Bob
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:31 PM, wrote:
Well, at least it happened here instead of down in the Bahamas
somewhere… I need a new heat exchanger for my W-60. One is available
thru Westerbeke
for $900, but if any one has any ideas, a “spare”, or a parts link,please
let me know, thanks,
BILL~~~ ~ (_~~ (_~ ~ ~ fair winds ~ ~ (_
Capt Bill Tice, aboard s/v CHARISMA
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Bill
Search Westerbeke 21903 on Google.
http://www.aaamarine.com/servlet/the-672/21903-Westerbeke-2729-dsh-3-dsh-5-marine/Detail
Here’s one for $425. Really!
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QUENT — What a find! Thanks for doing the leg work for me.
MY God – whatever did we do before the Internet and duct tape?~~~ ~ (_~~ (_~ ~ ~ fair winds ~ ~ (_
Capt Bill Tice, aboard s/v CHARISMAIn a message dated 4/1/2011 7:28:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
writes:Bill
Search Westerbeke 21903 on Google.
http://www.aaamarine.com/servlet/the-672/21903-Westerbeke-2729-dsh-3-dsh-5-m
arine/Detail
Here’s one for $425. Really!
Quent
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Bill:
As Quent pointed out, Sen-dure makes these exchangers. Just a matter of shopping around to see who will sell it to you for the least.
Paul
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The heat exchanger is made by sen-dure. They can build you a new one on an exchange basis.
Rich
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On Apr 1, 2011, at 6:25 PM, wrote:
Hey, Bob, thanks for getting back. The news came via phone today from my
Deltaville mechanic–I am 4 hours away at my Smith Mt Lake home, so I have
not seen it yet. I had been leaking coolant through both freeze plugs in the
H2O reservoir which he had fixed and pressure tested. But in reassembling
and testing he discover that my fresh mix is seeping into my raw H2O loop.
This solved the mystery of why I had been losing fluid in the reservoir.
I am going to the boat tomorrow and will be talking to him. Knowing Henry,
If it were at all possible to repair, he would. As for me doing it? HA!
Thanks again for the comeback, and if I don’t hang on to this exchanger,
it’s yours.
BILL~~~ ~ (_~~ (_~ ~ ~ fair winds ~ ~ (_
Capt Bill Tice, aboard s/v CHARISMAIn a message dated 4/1/2011 5:06:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
writes:Hi Bill,
Just out of curiosity, why do you need a new one? I ask because I’ve often
wondered if they are repairable if it’s a leaking tube (if only one, you
can
safely plug it. Actually, I’ve seen engines run quite happily with almost
50% plugged) If more than that, can it be re-tubed? It would be a long
and
tedious process involving a drill, solder (or brazing), bronze tubing, and
a
lot of patience. On the W58, I think repair would be possible.I don’t know where you’d get one, frankly, except Westerbeke, but I’d sure
like a whack at fixing it if you’re going to throw the old one away.Bob
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:31 PM, wrote:
Well, at least it happened here instead of down in the Bahamas
somewhere… I need a new heat exchanger for my W-60. One is available
thru Westerbeke
for $900, but if any one has any ideas, a “spare”, or a parts link,please
let me know, thanks,
BILL~~~ ~ (_~~ (_~ ~ ~ fair winds ~ ~ (_
Capt Bill Tice, aboard s/v CHARISMA
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Rich’s post reminds me that the W60 Heat exchanger body is a custom
casting. The mounts for the W60 are not standard. If you need to replace
that or the whole thing you will need to send the body to Sendure so they
can cast a new one. I don’t think anyone will have one in stock, except
Walter (aka Seawater). If he hasn’t used it for parts himself, he has the
one on my W60, which was new in 2003 or 4. I think the cost was a little
over $300 back then.On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Rich Carter wrote:
The heat exchanger is made by sen-dure. They can build you a new one on an
exchange basis.Rich
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 1, 2011, at 6:25 PM, wrote:
Hey, Bob, thanks for getting back. The news came via phone today from my
Deltaville mechanic–I am 4 hours away at my Smith Mt Lake home, so Ihave
not seen it yet. I had been leaking coolant through both freeze plugs in
the
H2O reservoir which he had fixed and pressure tested. But in
reassembling
and testing he discover that my fresh mix is seeping into my raw H2O
loop.
This solved the mystery of why I had been losing fluid in the reservoir.
I am going to the boat tomorrow and will be talking to him. KnowingHenry,
If it were at all possible to repair, he would. As for me doing it? HA!
Thanks again for the comeback, and if I don’t hang on to this exchanger,
it’s yours.
BILL~~~ ~ (_~~ (_~ ~ ~ fair winds ~ ~ (_
Capt Bill Tice, aboard s/v CHARISMAIn a message dated 4/1/2011 5:06:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
writes:Hi Bill,
Just out of curiosity, why do you need a new one? I ask because I’ve
often
wondered if they are repairable if it’s a leaking tube (if only one, you
can
safely plug it. Actually, I’ve seen engines run quite happily withalmost
50% plugged) If more than that, can it be re-tubed? It would be a long
and
tedious process involving a drill, solder (or brazing), bronze tubing,and
a
lot of patience. On the W58, I think repair would be possible.I don’t know where you’d get one, frankly, except Westerbeke, but I’d
sure
like a whack at fixing it if you’re going to throw the old one away.
Bob
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:31 PM, wrote:
Well, at least it happened here instead of down in the Bahamas
somewhere… I need a new heat exchanger for my W-60. One is available
thru Westerbeke
for $900, but if any one has any ideas, a “spare”, or a parts link,please
let me know, thanks,
BILL~~~ ~ (_~~ (_~ ~ ~ fair winds ~ ~ (_
Capt Bill Tice, aboard s/v CHARISMA
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Hi Bill.
I would suggest you contact Sen-Dur, the original manufacturer for advice.
800 394-5112.
When I replaced my hx in the Spring of 1999 they gave me the following
information:Westerbeke P/N 21903 = Sen-Dure P/N 2729-3-5 (material is copper)
They would need my old hx so that they could reuse the bronze castings that
connect the hx to the manifold. They also offered a copper-nickel unit under
P/N 2729-3-7. They suggested that I deal with them through one of the marine
equipmant suppliers in order to save about 20% off the Sen-Dure list prices
and provided the following estimated prices:
2729-3-5 estimated price $309.60 (list $383)
2729-3-7 estimated price $387.00 (list $484)
I elected to order through Defencder in Connecticut and got the -7 for
$377.52 plus $5.65 for shipping of the old unit to Sen-Dure. Total time from
delivery of old unit to Defender to pick-up of new was one month.I noticed that Quent found a -5 unit on the web for $425, with no mention of
having to return an old one. So that might be more attractive given that my
price info is 12 years old. But, it wouldn’t hurt to check both, especially
if you are interested in going with copper-nickel.
Good luck.
Phil Fontaine
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Thanks, Quent – another parts source to bookmark
They don’t say so in the page your reference, but on the page that links to
that one they state that you must send the old unit for the casting. So
this source is probably not much different from dealing Defender or other
suppliers Sen-Dure might recommend.On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Philippe Fontaine wrote:
Quote:Hi Bill.
I would suggest you contact Sen-Dur, the original manufacturer for advice. 800
394-5112.
When I replaced my hx in the Spring of 1999 they gave me the following
information:Westerbeke P/N 21903 = Sen-Dure P/N 2729-3-5 (material is copper)
They would need my old hx so that they could reuse the bronze castings that
connect the hx to the manifold. They also offered a copper-nickel unit under
P/N 2729-3-7. They suggested that I deal with them through one of the marine
equipmant suppliers in order to save about 20% off the Sen-Dure list prices
and provided the following estimated prices:
2729-3-5 estimated price $309.60 (list $383)
2729-3-7 estimated price $387.00 (list $484)
I elected to order through Defencder in Connecticut and got the -7 for
$377.52 plus $5.65 for shipping of the old unit to Sen-Dure. Total time from
delivery of old unit to Defender to pick-up of new was one month.I noticed that Quent found a -5 unit on the web for $425, with no mention
of having to return an old one. So that might be more attractive given that
my price info is 12 years old. But, it wouldn’t hurt to check both,
especially if you are interested in going with copper-nickel.
Good luck.
Phil Fontaine
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Here’s one for $317. Possibly made by Seakamp.
http://www.halemarine.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4_160&products_id=1844&zenid=3d0cf3c708c87265d88ee36d289e23e2
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Thanks again, Quent. One more bookmark
Browsing this site I found I could have bought a new VD tranny and oil
cooler for only a few $100s more than it cost me to rebuild mine. I didn’t
spend a lot of time looking back in November, but the best deal I found on a
new one was over $2k.On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 4:19 PM, quent wrote:
Oops, sorry, that was for W-58!
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OPPS! But I take it the sites you linked yesterday WERE for a W-60, prt
#21903?? I’m away fr the boat & don’t have my parts numbers….~~~ ~ (_~~ (_~ ~ ~ fair winds ~ ~ (_
Capt Bill Tice, aboard s/v CHARISMAIn a message dated 4/2/2011 4:19:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
writes:Oops, sorry, that was for W-58!
Quent
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THANKS, Phil, will follow through.
BILL~~~ ~ (_~~ (_~ ~ ~ fair winds ~ ~ (_
Capt Bill Tice, aboard s/v CHARISMAIn a message dated 4/2/2011 3:51:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
writes:Thanks, Quent – another parts source to bookmark
They don’t say so in the page your reference, but on the page that links to
that one they state that you must send the old unit for the casting. So
this source is probably not much different from dealing Defender or other
suppliers Sen-Dure might recommend.On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Philippe Fontaine
wrote:Hi Bill.
I would suggest you contact Sen-Dur, the original manufacturer foradvice. 800
394-5112.
When I replaced my hx in the Spring of 1999 they gave me the following
information:Westerbeke P/N 21903 = Sen-Dure P/N 2729-3-5 (material is copper)
They would need my old hx so that they could reuse the bronze castingsthat
connect the hx to the manifold. They also offered a copper-nickel unit
under
P/N 2729-3-7. They suggested that I deal with them through one of the
marine
equipmant suppliers in order to save about 20% off the Sen-Dure list
prices
and provided the following estimated prices:
2729-3-5 estimated price $309.60 (list $383)
2729-3-7 estimated price $387.00 (list $484)
I elected to order through Defencder in Connecticut and got the -7 for
$377.52 plus $5.65 for shipping of the old unit to Sen-Dure. Total timefrom
delivery of old unit to Defender to pick-up of new was one month.
I noticed that Quent found a -5 unit on the web for $425, with no mention
of having to return an old one. So that might be more attractive giventhat
Quote:my price info is 12 years old. But, it wouldn’t hurt to check both,
especially if you are interested in going with copper-nickel.
Good luck.
Phil Fontaine
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WILCO – Thanks, John
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Capt Bill Tice, aboard s/v CHARISMAIn a message dated 4/2/2011 1:47:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
writes:Rich’s post reminds me that the W60 Heat exchanger body is a custom
casting. The mounts for the W60 are not standard. If you need to replace
that or the whole thing you will need to send the body to Sendure so they
can cast a new one. I don’t think anyone will have one in stock, except
Walter (aka Seawater). If he hasn’t used it for parts himself, he has the
one on my W60, which was new in 2003 or 4. I think the cost was a little
over $300 back then.On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Rich Carter wrote:
The heat exchanger is made by sen-dure. They can build you a new one on
an
exchange basis.
Rich
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 1, 2011, at 6:25 PM, wrote:
Hey, Bob, thanks for getting back. The news came via phone today from
my
Deltaville mechanic–I am 4 hours away at my Smith Mt Lake home, so I
have
not seen it yet. I had been leaking coolant through both freeze plugs
in
the
H2O reservoir which he had fixed and pressure tested. But in
reassembling
and testing he discover that my fresh mix is seeping into my raw H2O
loop.
This solved the mystery of why I had been losing fluid in the
reservoir.
I am going to the boat tomorrow and will be talking to him. Knowing
Henry,
If it were at all possible to repair, he would. As for me doing it?
HA!
Thanks again for the comeback, and if I don’t hang on to this
exchanger,
it’s yours.
BILL~~~ ~ (_~~ (_~ ~ ~ fair winds ~ ~ (_
Capt Bill Tice, aboard s/v CHARISMAIn a message dated 4/1/2011 5:06:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
writes:Hi Bill,
Just out of curiosity, why do you need a new one? I ask because I’ve
often
wondered if they are repairable if it’s a leaking tube (if only one,
you
can
safely plug it. Actually, I’ve seen engines run quite happily withalmost
50% plugged) If more than that, can it be re-tubed? It would be a
long
and
tedious process involving a drill, solder (or brazing), bronze tubing,and
a
lot of patience. On the W58, I think repair would be possible.I don’t know where you’d get one, frankly, except Westerbeke, but I’d
sure
like a whack at fixing it if you’re going to throw the old one away.
Bob
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:31 PM, wrote:
Well, at least it happened here instead of down in the Bahamas
somewhere… I need a new heat exchanger for my W-60. One isavailable
thru Westerbeke
for $900, but if any one has any ideas, a “spare”, or a parts link,please
let me know, thanks,
BILL~~~ ~ (_~~ (_~ ~ ~ fair winds ~ ~ (_
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