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October 18, 2013 at 6:47 pm #68802
petedd
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Time for a new dinghy for the Queen. We stumbled on a great deal on an Avon 340 in perfect condition, which is 11′ long and are wondering if that is just too big.Thoughts?
(Buy it and trade for something smaller if we don’t like it?)
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October 18, 2013 at 7:11 pm #80205
Anonymous
I carry an 11.5ft WEST RIB (made by AVON) on davits aboard CHARISMA. This
will be my third trip to Bahamas with this tender without an issue. But you
do have to be aware of your clearance leaving a stationary dock with
pilings higher than the dinghy elevation afforded by your davits. However, if
you know how to use a spring line to kick out your stern, you’ll be OK – and
the big tender is certainly an advantage in the islands as it really helps
to expand you range and experience.
hope this helps..
BILL~~~ ~ (_~~ (_~ ~ ~ fair winds ~ ~ (_
Capt Bill Tice, aboard s/v CHARISMAIn a message dated 10/18/2013 2:48:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
writes:😀
Time for a new dinghy for the Queen. We stumbled on a great deal on an
Avon 340 in perfect condition, which is 11′ long and are wondering if that
is just too big.Thoughts?
(Buy it and trade for something smaller if we don’t like it?)
m2f
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October 18, 2013 at 7:14 pm #80204
quent
ParticipantOn davits? Might have to raise aft waterline a bit. Close to 200 pounds of dinghy, and also maybe a 15hp outboard to push it.
We have a 10 foot Caribe and a 2 cycle Yamaha and it is still a handful. Of course, crossing an inlet or playing tug when the main engine goes down, I’d want nothing less.
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October 18, 2013 at 7:27 pm #80206
madsailor
ModeratorI have a 11 foot Achilles with a Nissan 8 HP engine and inflatable floor
and keel. Planes with two people, carries 1600lbs of people and stuff, and
hangs from davits. I never leave the engine on it while hoisted.Bob
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I have a 11′ Achilles with a Nissan 8 HP engine and inflatable floor and
keel. Planes with two people, carries 1600lbs of people and stuff, and
hangs from davits. I never leave the engine on it while hoisted.Bob
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On davits? Might have to raise aft waterline a bit. Close to 200 pounds
of dinghy, and also maybe a 15hp outboard to push it.
We have a 10 foot Caribe and a 2 cycle Yamaha and it is still a
handful. Of course, crossing an inlet or playing tug when the main engine
goes down, I’d want nothing less.
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October 18, 2013 at 8:32 pm #80207
Tor
ParticipantGeez, it seems I have the smallest dinghy in the fleet. No wonder I can’t
get… Never mind, mine is a 9′ West Marine PVC made by Zodiac with
sectional plywood floorboards, pushed by an 8hp 2-stroke Yamaha. Planes with
one adult and a grandchild. Since I single-hand so much, this 9-footer is
adequate. Rides easily in davits with the outboard stowed separately on the
stern rail. Sure, I’d enjoy a bigger tender with a 15hp on it, but don’t
want to deal with such a large, heavy outboard.Thinking of adding a sailing dinghy to the repertoire.
Tor
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October 18, 2013 at 9:54 pm #80208
petedd
ParticipantThanks.  Do you put ir on deck for passages and if so, how iz the fit.
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October 18, 2013 at 10:06 pm #80209
quent
ParticipantOn Clairebuoyant, it stays in the davits, well lashed, with the motor on the pushpit. I’ve had two adventures on sailboats dealing with rogue kayaks on the foredeck. Now I believe that the largest object up there should be me.
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October 18, 2013 at 10:09 pm #80210
quent
ParticipantTor, don’t worry. We all get a little dinghy eventually.
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October 18, 2013 at 10:15 pm #80211
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Actually, I do not but rather lashed it securely to the transom. I agree –
the largest thing I want up there is me. If I had to reach the bow due to
some event, like a fouled roller furler or wayward anchor, it would be
difficult if not down right dangerous.In a message dated 10/18/2013 5:54:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
writes:Thanks. Do you put ir on deck for passages and if so, how iz the fit.
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October 19, 2013 at 12:34 am #80212
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Have a little 2hp Honda 4 stroke and an antique Mercury 7.5 that came from the Great Lakes and immediately started showing the PO what that old girl thought of salt water…….I offered it for a $100….it’s gone!
I got an old 2 stoke Yamaha 2 HP too, and an 8 foot Avon dingy, with inflatable floor…… I’ll dream of more than that, but it should be just fine.
Oh,…..my fantasy Dyer Dhow will never be out of my mind………
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October 19, 2013 at 12:49 am #80213
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I have a hard bottomed avon rib and a mercury 9. Flies. First 5 grand takes it FOB Snug Harbor RI.
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Have a little 2hp Honda 4 stroke and an antique Mercury 7.5 that came from the Great Lakes and immediately started showing the PO what that old girl thought of salt water…….I offered it for a $100….it’s gone!
I got an old 2 stoke Yamaha 2 HP too, and an 8 foot Avon dingy, with inflatable floor…… I’ll dream of more than that, but it should be just fine.
Oh,…..my fantasy Dyer Dhow will never be out of my mind………
Ken
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October 19, 2013 at 1:09 am #80214
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Whiffler carries a 8 HP Yamaha with a 10 foot inflatable soft bottom. Quick, but a hard bottom will be my next dingy purchase. Soft bottom – too flexible.
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October 19, 2013 at 1:26 am #80215
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HiFlite sports a 9.5 AB hard bottom on davits and a Yamaha 9.9 on the pushpit.
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October 19, 2013 at 1:45 pm #80216
RichCarterParticipantI have a similar size Achilles with a 30hp engine. It’s a perfect size onece you get there. It’s like towing a sea anchor however. Its too long to put on davits unless your davits are pretty high. The issue issue is that when the boat heels, one end or the other wii be in the water. Also, it’s too much weight for normal davits.
My solution was to have massive custom davits fabricated. I turn the dinghy around backwards and lift the aft end, leaving the bow in the water. It travels well this way.
http://www.richardcarter.net/boat/davitSwimPlatform/
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October 19, 2013 at 2:04 pm #80217
Tor
ParticipantI have occasionally seen sailboats towing a dinghy with its stern forward
and raised. It seemed more efficient than the more typical, bow-first
method.Pete, another consideration not mentioned here so far: If you intend to make
any offshore passages, the dinghy needs to be stowed on deck or, if
possible, in a locker. You certainly can’t tow it safely, and a davit-slung
tender can be precarious and become dangerous in heavy weather. My
inflatable, with its sectional floorboards removed, rolls up into a
manageable bundle that I lash securely forward of the main mast. I wonder
how 424’s fit an RIB on deck during passages. Has anyone done it?Tor
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October 19, 2013 at 3:24 pm #80218
unabated
ParticipantIn order to be effective an inflatable floor has to be absolutely stiff there’s a gauge that you use to inflated with.
The factory says the inflatable floor should be so stiff you can put it between two sawhorses and stand on it.
Otherwise it’s too soft and a bubble will develop underneath it trying to get up on plane.
Also be sure you can handle the weight of a rib not just on davits but trying to pull the sucker up on the beach with the motor. That’s well over 200 pounds, the wife or kids may not be able to handle it.
Just saying.
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Quote:On Oct 18, 2013, at 9:09 PM, “Steven Weinberg, Ph.D.” wrote:Whiffler carries a 8 HP Yamaha with a 10 foot inflatable soft bottom. Quick, but a hard bottom will be my next dingy purchase. Soft bottom – too flexible.
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October 20, 2013 at 5:13 pm #80220
Adam Silverstein
ParticipantWalker Bay 10 with sailing kit on Kato davits. Was a 4-stroke Nissan 6hp, but that went swimming. Now a spare 4hp on the taffrail. The rib kit makes it stable for 4 adults. We have me, my ape-armed 110lb wife and 3 boys. And it’s getting tight. In a pinch, using the main halyard and a pair of lifting lines, it goes on the coach roof. My thought is it’s a lead pipe cinch to get ripped off (along with the davits) in really big weather.
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October 20, 2013 at 10:41 pm #80221
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Alan, that is some very interesting info. (The factory says the inflatable floor should be so stiff you can put it between two sawhorses and stand on it. )
I haven’t read up on my new (to me) tender, which has an “inflatable floor” like you mention because I’ve been busy getting other things squared away as my wife and I delve back into the cruising life after a 17 year sabbatical.
If I have to blow that sucker up that much and I can stand on it between two sawhorses….I “will” have pictures to share, if I can figure out how to post them as snazzy as Tor! 🙂
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October 20, 2013 at 10:55 pm #80222
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This might be a good test if the saw horses are 6 inches apart.
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October 20, 2013 at 11:17 pm #80223
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ParticipantThe pump had two ports. One high volume low pressure – used for the tubes. the other is low volume high pressure used for the floor. The pump should also come with a pressure gauge to indicate when the tubes or floor is adequately inflated.
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Alan, that is some very interesting info. (The factory says the inflatable floor should be so stiff you can put it between two sawhorses and stand on it. )
I haven’t read up on my new (to me) tender, which has an “inflatable floor” like you mention because I’ve been busy getting other things squared away as my wife and I delve back into the cruising life after a 17 year sabbatical.
If I have to blow that sucker up that much and I can stand on it between two sawhorses….I “will” have pictures to share, if I can figure out how to post them as snazzy as Tor! 🙂
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