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I am getting ready to move my instruments to a pod above the
companionway. I am wondering who else has done this and how and where
you fed the cables. At some point I will have to feed them through the
deck and don’t want to create a misplaced or unnecessary hole._______________________________________________
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Dale,
I don’t have a pod of instruments, but do have a PO-installed GPS
mounted behind the dodger on the starboard side. That side seems to make
sense because (1) there is no main sheet winch, and (2) it’s closer to
the nav station and breaker panel belowdecks. The GPS wire runs through
a small hole on the after side of the dodger coaming, which is a
vertical surface. In the attached photo, if the binoculars weren’t in
the way you’d see where that wire penetrates fiberglass. (Sorry, it’s
all I have with me. I’m not on the boat at present.) Once belowdecks,
the wire runs inside (above, behind) the head liner towards the
starboard side, then drops down behind the breaker panel for connection.Tor
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Navigation. The instruments were relocated when previous owner re-powered.
On 7/11/2012 2:49 PM, wrote:
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Which instruments, the engine instruments or navigation?Rich
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Dale,
I have my navigation instruments at the wheel on the binnacle guard. We had a thread about where folks mount their instruments recently. I suppose its a matter of preference. The original instruments were mounted in the bridge-deck next to the engine instruments. The bridge-deck is fine for engine instruments that don’t need to be referenced frequently, but a poor place for wind and depth. I think we can all agree on that. There are a number of large screen instruments that could be mounted above the companion way and read from the wheel. Did you purchase one of these? I assume you purchased an instrument pod to be mounted across the companionway.Here’s an interesting link:
http://www.wbryant.com/StellaBoat/Projects/instruments/cp1/multi_xl.htmI don’t like any of the instrument pods I’ve seen, be they on the binnacle or across the companionway. I made my own out of teak, but I’m not happy with it yet. The shape and size is right but I should have cut the top off the binnacle guard instead of mounting it to the front. When properly finished, it looks nice, but its more teak to varnish. It should be made from fiberglass. I’ll likely replace mine next winter.
https://www.pearson424.org/gallery/index.php/exteriormods/blacksheepext/P8180013A friend of mine with a Catalina 34 made a similar pod from wood and did a fine job painting it with epoxy paint.
Removal of the headliner below the companionway and above the nav station breaker box requires removal of the teak molding at each end of the panel. Once these trim pieces are removed, the headliner is held with Velcro strips and is easily removed. The adhesive on the Velcro gets brittle and tends to separate. You should expect to either re-glue or replace the Velcro strips. Once you have the panel removed, locating a convenient spot to drill a hole should be straightforward. Coating the inside of the hole with epoxy is strongly suggested. If you have room, you might consider installing a plastic through-hull where the wires run through the deck. Install it with the barb facing upward.
BTW: Someone was looking for replacement bow cleats in a recent thread. A local marine store in Salem MA appears to have replacements for $60 ea.
Regards
Rich
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Dale
Alan on Unabated mounted his instruments there. He ran his wiring up through the 1 inch SS conduit that he mounted to put the pod on.
http://www.sailblogs.com/member/unabated/index.php?show=gallery&aid=7673&pid=141177
Paul
On Jul 11, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Dale L wrote:
Quote:Navigation. The instruments were relocated when previous owner re-powered.On 7/11/2012 2:49 PM, wrote:
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Which instruments, the engine instruments or navigation?Rich
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I wanted to mount a Maretron display above my companion way and the “pod”
options were so ridiculously expensive and HUGE, that I went without a POD
and mounted the Maretron a board and attached it to the SS dodger pipes.
Hard for me to believe, but I don’t have anything written up on my blog. I
can’t find any pics either.
Wow, I really dropped the ball there.Basically, I used hinged 90 degree T’s to go around the dodger pipes. These
then go to a 9 inch or so piece of vertical SS pipe. On the end of these
vertical pieces, there is an end fitting and then a deck hinge atached to
the wood. this will help with that.
http://www.sea-dog.com/groups/1290-bimini-fittingsThe wood is nothing special, but I painted it with an exterior marine grade
white paint.
One year out and its helpd up great.For routing wires, I used a Maretorn bulkhead pass through for my NMEA 2000
wire above the navstation and at the base of the dodger foot. Then I zip
tied the wire to the dodger. For any other wires I’ve had to pass through
the deck or the mast, I’ve used Cable Clams from Blue Sea Marine and I love
them! http://bluesea.com/category/82/productline/overview/1Hope that helps.
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W7PEAOn Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Dale L wrote:
I am getting ready to move my instruments to a pod above the companionway.
I am wondering who else has done this and how and where you fed the
cables. At some point I will have to feed them through the deck and don’t
want to create a misplaced or unnecessary hole.______________________________**_________________
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Patrick,
I haven’t put any instruments above the companionway. Mine are on the
bridgedeck, which, as Rich pointed out, is a less than ideal location. I
have a repeater (AP Control Head) mounted on the mizzen mast which provide
data to anyone at the helm. Similar to what Tor has on Silverheels, I have
a GPS mounting on the starboard side of the cabin trunk under the dodger.
This is a backup GPS mounting, so it is rarely in use, but I wanted to
provide 12V power to the handheld GPS rather that the internal batteries.
I mounted a power/data receptacle outboard on the cabin trunk, which
finally gets to your question. The hole I drilled through the cabin trunk
at this position comes out behind the electrical panel.So my recommendation for your instruments would be to run the cabling along
the inside of coaming that is used as the base for most dodgers to the
starboard edge of the cabin trunk, and then down through the deck to the
area behind the electrical panel.I’ve attached a pic to the GPS and power/data receptacle
Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Peaboy Walters wrote:
I wanted to mount a Maretron display above my companion way and the “pod”
options were so ridiculously expensive and HUGE, that I went without a POD
and mounted the Maretron a board and attached it to the SS dodger pipes.
Hard for me to believe, but I don’t have anything written up on my blog. I
can’t find any pics either.
Wow, I really dropped the ball there.Basically, I used hinged 90 degree T’s to go around the dodger pipes. These
then go to a 9 inch or so piece of vertical SS pipe. On the end of these
vertical pieces, there is an end fitting and then a deck hinge atached to
the wood. this will help with that.
http://www.sea-dog.com/groups/1290-bimini-fittingsThe wood is nothing special, but I painted it with an exterior marine grade
white paint.
One year out and its helpd up great.For routing wires, I used a Maretorn bulkhead pass through for my NMEA 2000
wire above the navstation and at the base of the dodger foot. Then I zip
tied the wire to the dodger. For any other wires I’ve had to pass through
the deck or the mast, I’ve used Cable Clams from Blue Sea Marine and I love
them! http://bluesea.com/category/82/productline/overview/1Hope that helps.
-patrick
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W7PEAOn Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Dale L wrote:
I am getting ready to move my instruments to a pod above the
companionway.
I am wondering who else has done this and how and where you fed the
cables. At some point I will have to feed them through the deck anddon’t
want to create a misplaced or unnecessary hole.
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Seems to me that mounting instrument read-outs at the helm only serves
for day-sailing. When cruising, people rarely stand at the helm except
when entering and leaving harbors. Instead, watch-keepers tend to hang
out in the forward corners of the cockpit, snuggled up behind the spray
dodger, and/or on the seats to port & starboard of the mizzen mast in
milder weather. Only in the most settled conditions might someone choose
to sit farther aft than that. The skipper, when not on watch, pokes his
head up out of the companionway from time to time to check course and
speed, etc. Last thing he needs, watch after watch, is to have to
clamber aft to the helm to see how the boat’s doing.No, for cruising it makes sense to position instrument read-outs where
they can be read from forward of the mizzen mast (as well as from the
helm), i.e., mounted just aft of the dodger, either on the coachhouse
(starboard side because the mainsheet winch is to port), or else across
the forward end of the main companionway. Of the two, the companionway
mount seems preferable because it’s equally visible from either side of
the cockpit, which the coachhouse aft starboard corner mount is not.Question: Is the above-the-companionway instrument pod a head-banger?
Anyone?Dan mentioned a wireless, moveable pod. First I’ve heard of that, and it
could be the ideal location solution. Set it on the binnacle for
day-sails and harbor navigation, and otherwise behind the dodger when
cruising. Very cool.Tor
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Tor: I might add to your wireless unit comments the fact that, if selected, you experience none of the hassle of running cables on an old boat. Big plus when you have to face pulling things apart that have been fastened for 30 years. That fact confirmed my decision.
Dan Kalinowski
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I agree completely with you that the instruments should be forward of the
mizzen. When the autopilot or windvane are steering, we sit just as you
suggest, up out of the wind. On the longer legs coming down the west coast,
motoring a lot, we frequently sat right in the companion way, which was
nice an cozy.Above the companionway is only a head bumper a few times, then you learn to
twist as you go down the companionway.-p
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W7PEAOn Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:Seems to me that mounting instrument read-outs at the helm only serves
for day-sailing. When cruising, people rarely stand at the helm except
when entering and leaving harbors. Instead, watch-keepers tend to hang
out in the forward corners of the cockpit, snuggled up behind the spray
dodger, and/or on the seats to port & starboard of the mizzen mast in
milder weather. Only in the most settled conditions might someone choose
to sit farther aft than that. The skipper, when not on watch, pokes his
head up out of the companionway from time to time to check course and
speed, etc. Last thing he needs, watch after watch, is to have to
clamber aft to the helm to see how the boat’s doing.No, for cruising it makes sense to position instrument read-outs where
they can be read from forward of the mizzen mast (as well as from the
helm), i.e., mounted just aft of the dodger, either on the coachhouse
(starboard side because the mainsheet winch is to port), or else across
the forward end of the main companionway. Of the two, the companionway
mount seems preferable because it’s equally visible from either side of
the cockpit, which the coachhouse aft starboard corner mount is not.Question: Is the above-the-companionway instrument pod a head-banger?
Anyone?Dan mentioned a wireless, moveable pod. First I’ve heard of that, and it
could be the ideal location solution. Set it on the binnacle for
day-sails and harbor navigation, and otherwise behind the dodger when
cruising. Very cool.Tor
http://www.silverheels.us
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Thanks Dawn and Patrick! -
We moved the instruments, Nexus wind and multi readout, to above the
companionway a few years ago and have been very satisfied. See the
attached photos. The cable to the server and a repeater at the nav
station can be seen to the right of the companionway. This setup along
with a radar/chartplotter mounted on the mizzen on a hinged ram mount
and an autopilot remote enable us to “drive” from the companionway or
forward corners of the cockpit out of the weather.On 7/15/12 1:20 PM, Peaboy Walters wrote:
Quote:I agree completely with you that the instruments should be forward of the
mizzen. When the autopilot or windvane are steering, we sit just as you
suggest, up out of the wind. On the longer legs coming down the west coast,
motoring a lot, we frequently sat right in the companion way, which was
nice an cozy.Above the companionway is only a head bumper a few times, then you learn to
twist as you go down the companionway.-p
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W7PEAOn Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:Seems to me that mounting instrument read-outs at the helm only serves
for day-sailing. When cruising, people rarely stand at the helm except
when entering and leaving harbors. Instead, watch-keepers tend to hang
out in the forward corners of the cockpit, snuggled up behind the spray
dodger, and/or on the seats to port& starboard of the mizzen mast in
milder weather. Only in the most settled conditions might someone choose
to sit farther aft than that. The skipper, when not on watch, pokes his
head up out of the companionway from time to time to check course and
speed, etc. Last thing he needs, watch after watch, is to have to
clamber aft to the helm to see how the boat’s doing.No, for cruising it makes sense to position instrument read-outs where
they can be read from forward of the mizzen mast (as well as from the
helm), i.e., mounted just aft of the dodger, either on the coachhouse
(starboard side because the mainsheet winch is to port), or else across
the forward end of the main companionway. Of the two, the companionway
mount seems preferable because it’s equally visible from either side of
the cockpit, which the coachhouse aft starboard corner mount is not.Question: Is the above-the-companionway instrument pod a head-banger?
Anyone?Dan mentioned a wireless, moveable pod. First I’ve heard of that, and it
could be the ideal location solution. Set it on the binnacle for
day-sails and harbor navigation, and otherwise behind the dodger when
cruising. Very cool.Tor
http://www.silverheels.us
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