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    • #67765
      Anonymous

      Those of you with canister life rafts, where have you mounted it and why?

      Tor
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    • #74181
      john stevenson
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      Tor,
      I mounted mine on the cabin top under the main boom.  I put it there because it is not in the way of anything else, it's a place I don't normally need to walk, and seemed to be a good location from which to step up into the raft.  Lots of people say the raft should be in the cockpit so it can be launched from a secure location, I just couldn't figure out to put it there and still be able to sail the boat or enjoy the cockpit at anchor.

      http://www.svsarah.com/Sarah/Images/New%20Hatches%202.JPG

      The link is to a picture of the canister bracket without the canister.  The canister is thru-bolted to the cabin roof.

      On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Silver Heels < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Those of you with canister life rafts, where have you mounted it and why?

      Tor
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    • #74183
      quent
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      Tor-
      Our 4 person Viking is just forward and starboard of where John mounted his, in placeof the companionway hood. We had the space because we replaced the slider with a hatch.
      One thing you might want to consider is if you have a self deploying raft you want it to clear the rigging when it breaks away from the boat.
      Quent
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    • #74184
      madsailor
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      Hi Tor,

      Mine's mounted on the cabin top, aft of the opening hatch, dead center.  That's the way the boat came, and it seems to be a very common place to put it.  All my friends' boats have the raft either there, or on some sloops, just forward of the main mast.  Clearly that won't work for a cutter…

      I thought you were going to mount yours where your rack is currently tied – that's not a bad place either, as long as that's not the side underwater at the time.  But given you're leaving before that's a problem, aft of the midship's hatch on the cabin roof seems as good a place as any, if that's what you're thinking.

      I think there is tradition (where mine and John's are), and then innovative thinking – where you may put yours.

      Bob

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      Tor
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    • #74185
      Anonymous

      Just behind the mast…

      pictures available if necessary.

      Cada
      Jubilee

      Nov 3, 2009 09:27:10 PM, () wrote:

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      Tor
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    • #74186
      Anonymous

      Life raft, ditch bag, water container, bottle of rum, instantly deplorable. There was a J boat that just sank in 5 minutes during the Baja Ha Ha.
      http://www.latitude38.com/lectronic/lectronicday.lasso?date=2009-10-29&dayid=34

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    • #74187
      Anonymous

      John,

      Doesn’t it block some of your forward visibility mounted there?

      Tor
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    • #74188
      Anonymous

      Bob,

      I know most boats carry their life rafts along the centerline of the coachhouse. It’s symmetrical and symmetry pleases the eye. Personally, however, I’ve never liked the idea of placing a big fat box smack in the center of the helmsman’s forward line of sight. On my last cruising boat I mounted the raft on the sloped forward end of the coachhouse, a less than ideal location, being so far forward. It looked odd, too, as if it has slipped off the front of the coachhouse by accident, but it did allow an unobstructed view forward from the cockpit, which seemed most important.

      As you saw aboard Silver Heels, I’m planning to mount her raft just aft of the midship companionway (and forward of the end of the main sheet traveler), a spot offset far to starboard. It’s a perfect fit, an otherwise dead space near to the cockpit, and relatively unobtrusive to visibility. That it’s offset is not ideal. As you say, if the boat were knocked down onto that side that raft location could become awkward. Like everything else on a boat this solution is a compromise. For that reason I thought I’d see if someone has come up with a better idea before I start drilling holed in the roof today or tomorrow.

      When are you taking off for Charleston?

      Tor
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    • #74189
      Anonymous

      Bill,

      What’s that link for? I didn’t see any life raft mounts there. Or did I miss something?

      Do you carry a hard-shell raft? Where is it mounted?

      Tor
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    • #74190
      Anonymous

      Tor, when I bought our 424, the canister was mounted in front of the main mast. Except for occasionally catching the jib sheet on a tack, it’s also a great place to sit and take it all in during calm seas. If I had it to do all over again , I’d mount it BEHIND the main mast so there would be no “catching” on tacking. We replaced the 80’s vintage AVON canister with a new ISO and OSA approved Avon which required a new canister. I should have moved it aft behind the main mast, but before I thought about it the yard just put it where the old one was.

      Hope this helps.

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    • #74191
      Anonymous

      Easy Reach’s canister s mounted in ront of the main mast. Catching a jib sheet is a continuing issue resolved in part by stretching a short line across the gaps where the sheet could catch. I would keep the canister there because we carry our ten foot hard dinghy under the main boom on long passages, a problem not encountered with a deflated inflatable.

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    • #74193
      Anonymous

      Thank you all for your replies to my query. I guess I’m the only one who doesn’t like a life raft on the coachhouse centerline. Mama said there’d be days like this.

      Tor
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    • #74194
      madsailor
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      Hi Tor,

      If you look to my mooring you will see I have left!  I'm at Surf City, and will probably stay here for my meeting – rather than motor 20 miles and pay an exorbitant dock fee there.  My friend can pick me up.

      Friday, I head out again – just so you know, you can make Wrightsville Beach inlet in a good day – about 10 hours.  I could have made it on the ICW in 12 or 13, but why beat myself up?  I mean, this is supposed to be fun, right?

      So, I saw where you're going to put it and I think it's a great idea.  To be honest, the centerline doesn't really get in the way – usually, when docking or picking up a mooring you're on one side or another, and as you know, with the big wheel, I can sit on the coaming when I sail if I'm desperate to steer. 

      Where you want to mount yours has an even bigger advantage – almost enough to make me move mine – in that you can put your dinghy upside down aft of the mast and use it to cover the hatch so you can keep it open even if there's rain or spray.  To me, that's HUGE!

      I can't carry my dinghy on deck inflated because of the inner stay, and because of the life raft, I can't put it there, either.

      So, I'd say, go ahead.  You may want to check the visibility when you're steering from the starboard side, but if it's good and you're comfortable, I think it's an excellent spot!

      Bob

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      I know most boats carry their life rafts along the centerline of the coachhouse. It's symmetrical and symmetry pleases the eye. Personally, however, I've never liked the idea of placing a big fat box smack in the center of the helmsman's forward line of sight. On my last cruising boat I mounted the raft on the sloped forward end of the coachhouse, a less than ideal location, being so far forward. It looked odd, too, as if it has slipped off the front of the coachhouse by accident, but it did allow an unobstructed view forward from the cockpit, which seemed most important.
       
      As you saw aboard Silver Heels, I'm planning to mount her raft just aft of the midship companionway (and forward of the end of the main sheet traveler), a spot offset far to starboard. It's a perfect fit, an otherwise dead space near to the cockpit, and relatively unobtrusive to visibility. That it's offset is not ideal. As you say, if the boat were knocked down onto that side that raft location could become awkward. Like everything else on a boat this solution is a compromise. For that reason I thought I'd see if someone has come up with a better idea before I start drilling holed in the roof today or tomorrow.
       
      When are you taking off for Charleston?

      Tor
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    • #74195
      Anonymous

      Hey Bob,

      Yes, I looked over there soon after I sent that email and saw you were gone. Glad we had a chance to meet & hope to again before too long. (I might’ve guessed you’d stop at Surf City. I’ve heard it sung it’s 2-to-1 there.)

      Since I don’t see a better place for my raft, it’ll go where you saw the cradle – far to starboard on the coachhouse, just forward of the main traveler. I’ve got it sitting there now. It’s about as unobtrusive as it’s going to get in terms of helmsman’s visibility. My one regret is that I had intended to install a small opening hatch in that spot, directly over the shower stall. Even bought the hatch (along with a matching one to go over the forward end of the aft cabin bunk)! As for carrying the dinghy on the coachhouse, maybe if I ever add a hard (sailing) dink to the inventory. Meanwhile, my inflatable rides in the davits, or gets deflated and stowed for offshore legs.

      Bon voyage, amigo. Reef early.

      Tor
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