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April 30, 2010 at 12:18 am #67992
petedd
ParticipantI need to buy some plywood to replace the big hole in the sole I made
glassing in the new fuel tank. The question is: what is this stuff?Is it CCA marine grade doug fir plywood or just CCA (non-marine)
plywood, or something else.What are people using these days? I can find CCA plywood (non-marine)
for about $32/sheet and I can find marine grade, not CCA plywood for
about $97 a sheet. In any case, I need about a 48 x 48 piece of the
right stuff. (the CCA 3/4 marine ply sells at the coast for about
$65/sheet, but I can’t find it here). I wonder if you can just put a
shipping label on a 4′ square piece and send it via UPS….Knowledge and ideas?
Thanks,
Pete
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April 30, 2010 at 1:04 am #75276
Hull152_Patrick
SpectatorUse Marine grade plywood….
Pete, where do you live? I might be able to help you find it.-p
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Pete Dubler <> wrote:
I need to buy some plywood to replace the big hole in the sole I made
glassing in the new fuel tank. The question is: what is this stuff?Is it CCA marine grade doug fir plywood or just CCA (non-marine) plywood,
or something else.What are people using these days? I can find CCA plywood (non-marine) for
about $32/sheet and I can find marine grade, not CCA plywood for about $97 a
sheet. In any case, I need about a 48 x 48 piece of the right stuff. (the
CCA 3/4 marine ply sells at the coast for about $65/sheet, but I can’t find
it here). I wonder if you can just put a shipping label on a 4′ square
piece and send it via UPS….Knowledge and ideas?
Thanks,
Pete
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April 30, 2010 at 2:02 am #75277
petedd
ParticipantI am in Fort Collins, Colorado. My boat is here for a several year
restoration. (It is a Blue Water Sailing project boat and you can
follow the project in their magazine starting this summer with an
article on trucking the boat out here).Pete
On 4/29/2010 7:04 PM, Patrick “Peaboy” Walters wrote:
Use Marine grade plywood….
Pete, where do you live? I might be able to help you find it.-p
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Pete Dubler<> wrote:
I need to buy some plywood to replace the big hole in the sole I made
glassing in the new fuel tank. The question is: what is this stuff?Is it CCA marine grade doug fir plywood or just CCA (non-marine) plywood,
or something else.What are people using these days? I can find CCA plywood (non-marine) for
about $32/sheet and I can find marine grade, not CCA plywood for about $97 a
sheet. In any case, I need about a 48 x 48 piece of the right stuff. (the
CCA 3/4 marine ply sells at the coast for about $65/sheet, but I can’t find
it here). I wonder if you can just put a shipping label on a 4′ square
piece and send it via UPS….Knowledge and ideas?
Thanks,
Pete
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April 30, 2010 at 2:11 am #75278
john stevensonParticipantPete,
I don’t know CCA for non-CCA, but clearly the sub-floor plywood I removed
during my cabin sole hatch project this spring was not marine grade. That
is, if my knowledge of marine grade is correct – zero voids.
In any case I had to replace one section of the hatch subfloor and I used
MDO plywood. I’ll let you know in 10 year or less if that was a good idea.On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Pete Dubler <> wrote:
I am in Fort Collins, Colorado. My boat is here for a several year
restoration. (It is a Blue Water Sailing project boat and you can follow
the project in their magazine starting this summer with an article on
trucking the boat out here).Pete
On 4/29/2010 7:04 PM, Patrick “Peaboy” Walters wrote:
Use Marine grade plywood….
Pete, where do you live? I might be able to help you find it.-p
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Pete Dubler<>
wrote:I need to buy some plywood to replace the big hole in the sole I made
glassing in the new fuel tank. The question is: what is this stuff?Is it CCA marine grade doug fir plywood or just CCA (non-marine) plywood,
or something else.What are people using these days? I can find CCA plywood (non-marine)
for
about $32/sheet and I can find marine grade, not CCA plywood for about
$97 a
sheet. In any case, I need about a 48 x 48 piece of the right stuff.
(the
CCA 3/4 marine ply sells at the coast for about $65/sheet, but I can’t
find
it here). I wonder if you can just put a shipping label on a 4′ square
piece and send it via UPS….Knowledge and ideas?
Thanks,
Pete
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April 30, 2010 at 6:41 am #75279
Hull152_Patrick
SpectatorThis place is 1:20 away from Fort Collins in Aurora.
http://straitlumber.com/products/lumber-plywood.php<http://straitlumber.com/products/lumber-plywood.php>They carry andor they
are a dealer for this brand of Marine Grade Plywood:
http://www.wolstenholme.com/prod05.htm<http://www.wolstenholme.com/prod05.htm>-p
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Pete Dubler <> wrote:
I am in Fort Collins, Colorado. My boat is here for a several year
restoration. (It is a Blue Water Sailing project boat and you can follow
the project in their magazine starting this summer with an article on
trucking the boat out here).Pete
On 4/29/2010 7:04 PM, Patrick “Peaboy” Walters wrote:
Use Marine grade plywood….
Pete, where do you live? I might be able to help you find it.-p
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Pete Dubler<>
wrote:I need to buy some plywood to replace the big hole in the sole I made
glassing in the new fuel tank. The question is: what is this stuff?Is it CCA marine grade doug fir plywood or just CCA (non-marine) plywood,
or something else.What are people using these days? I can find CCA plywood (non-marine)
for
about $32/sheet and I can find marine grade, not CCA plywood for about
$97 a
sheet. In any case, I need about a 48 x 48 piece of the right stuff.
(the
CCA 3/4 marine ply sells at the coast for about $65/sheet, but I can’t
find
it here). I wonder if you can just put a shipping label on a 4′ square
piece and send it via UPS….Knowledge and ideas?
Thanks,
Pete
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April 30, 2010 at 1:23 pm #75282
madsailor
ModeratorThe subfloor and beams are not marine grade. The beams are simple 2×3
douglas fir which is resistant to rot (clearly not if it’s submerged). The
subfloor is standard 3/4″ plywood, and for the same reason.Unless you plan to keep your bilge wet all the time up to the top of the
keel, I’d say, the stuff lasted 32+ years. Why mess with success.Another way to tell is that standard and marine grades of plywood are
different thicknesses – marine is about 1/64th inch thinner. Maybe a 32nd.
I forget which. If I were to recommend plywood replacement, I’d suggest
exterior grade. It’s only marginally more expensive than interior grade.At any rate, that’s what mine is, and it’s #8. I seriously doubt they
changed materials in later models, but who knows?I hope that helps and saves you a bit of money.
Bob
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April 30, 2010 at 1:57 pm #75283
petedd
ParticipantI talked with them yesterday in fact. I can get a variety of marine
plywoods here in ft collins, but I was thinking that I needed to get a
CCA marine plywood. Still unclear about that.Pete
On 4/30/2010 12:41 AM, Patrick “Peaboy” Walters wrote:
This place is 1:20 away from Fort Collins in Aurora.
http://straitlumber.com/products/lumber-plywood.php<http://straitlumber.com/products/lumber-plywood.php>They carry andor they
are a dealer for this brand of Marine Grade Plywood:
http://www.wolstenholme.com/prod05.htm<http://www.wolstenholme.com/prod05.htm>-p
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Pete Dubler<> wrote:
I am in Fort Collins, Colorado. My boat is here for a several year
restoration. (It is a Blue Water Sailing project boat and you can follow
the project in their magazine starting this summer with an article on
trucking the boat out here).Pete
On 4/29/2010 7:04 PM, Patrick “Peaboy” Walters wrote:
Use Marine grade plywood….
Pete, where do you live? I might be able to help you find it.-p
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Pete Dubler<>
wrote:I need to buy some plywood to replace the big hole in the sole I made
glassing in the new fuel tank. The question is: what is this stuff?Is it CCA marine grade doug fir plywood or just CCA (non-marine) plywood,
or something else.What are people using these days? I can find CCA plywood (non-marine)
for
about $32/sheet and I can find marine grade, not CCA plywood for about
$97 a
sheet. In any case, I need about a 48 x 48 piece of the right stuff.
(the
CCA 3/4 marine ply sells at the coast for about $65/sheet, but I can’t
find
it here). I wonder if you can just put a shipping label on a 4′ square
piece and send it via UPS….Knowledge and ideas?
Thanks,
Pete
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April 30, 2010 at 2:02 pm #75284
petedd
ParticipantThanks Bob. Mine does look like a doug fir plywood but I thought it was
treated. Plain plywood 30 years ago was nicer than it is today. Many
fewer voids, etc. Yes I can get a sheet of 3/4″ exterior treated ply
for about $30. Makes sense since as you say it will not be directly or
constantly exposed to water.Pete
On 4/30/2010 7:23 AM, Robert Fine wrote:
The subfloor and beams are not marine grade. The beams are simple 2×3
douglas fir which is resistant to rot (clearly not if it’s submerged). The
subfloor is standard 3/4″ plywood, and for the same reason.Unless you plan to keep your bilge wet all the time up to the top of the
keel, I’d say, the stuff lasted 32+ years. Why mess with success.Another way to tell is that standard and marine grades of plywood are
different thicknesses – marine is about 1/64th inch thinner. Maybe a 32nd.
I forget which. If I were to recommend plywood replacement, I’d suggest
exterior grade. It’s only marginally more expensive than interior grade.At any rate, that’s what mine is, and it’s #8. I seriously doubt they
changed materials in later models, but who knows?I hope that helps and saves you a bit of money.
Bob
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April 30, 2010 at 2:05 pm #75285
Anonymous
Pete,
The guys a the yacht club replaced part of our small boat ramp with marine plywood and it truly is the right stuff. I will include a member in on this email to see if he can provide you with the source.
Niels, where did you find the marine ply for the ramp project?
BillSV Running Tab
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May 3, 2010 at 12:17 am #75290
RichCarterParticipantPete
I assume you’ve probably seen this.
http://www.richardcarter.net/boat/sole/Unless you want to replace a large part of your cabin sole, you might find
it easier to use the plywood venere. Laying in solid strips isn’t all that
difficult however. Especially if you have an odd shape to fit. Its about
the same price as plywood.Rich
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May 3, 2010 at 2:20 am #75292
petedd
ParticipantI am planning to overlay the entire sole with bamboo and teak (bamboo
for the wide strips and teak for the narrow/ 1/4
thick. This will be the last project of the refit. After I am done
making all the rest of the messes.Pete
On 5/2/2010 6:17 PM, Rich Carter wrote:
Quote:Pete
I assume you’ve probably seen this.
http://www.richardcarter.net/boat/sole/Unless you want to replace a large part of your cabin sole, you might find
it easier to use the plywood venere. Laying in solid strips isn’t all that
difficult however. Especially if you have an odd shape to fit. Its about
the same price as plywood.Rich
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