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Ok too lazy to look this up. Just got to Anacortes, WA for the Lats N Atts party, hooked up to the shore power and we’ve got blinky orange with zero load only the ac main is on. Polarity check is fine.
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Patrick,
Can’t say what this light indicates, but yours must have gotten a little
more sun light than mine over the years. The plastic cover should be green,
at least it is on my panel.
Mine comes on and blinks as your describe on occasion. This happens most
often when the genset is running, although not always. The fixture is
connected across the neutral and hot AC leads at the back of the AC
Voltmeter, so it may flash when the shore power voltage is not within some
limit. However I’ve never noticed a meaningful correlation there.
Marinetics is long gone, although I think there is a small outfit (someone’s
garage?) in So Ca that does some sort of the electrical fabrication.
I did not find a description of the Marinetics panel in the my (also long
gone) owners manual. Just a very generalized schematic that did not include
the meters.
My advice: Enjoy the party and forget about the light.On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Patrick wrote:
Ok too lazy to look this up. Just got to Anacortes, WA for the Lats N Atts
party, hooked up to the shore power and we’ve got blinky orange with zero
load only the ac main is on. Polarity check is fine.Sent from my iPhone
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Shortly thereafter the light went off, so we’re still clueless. I’ll look
how it’s wired in next time I have the panel down. Too lazy enjoying the
first 80F+ days in Puget sound this year. Lats N Atts party is a good time,
if you like drunken pirates. 😉-p
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Rich Carter wrote:
Quote:Looks to me like someone added a lamp for some reason. Maybe inverter on?
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The light (on my panel) is wired to the shore power and presumably should
come one whenever the shore power is connected. There is a small stalk at
the base of the light (behind the panel), but I find it hard to believe that
in the late 1970s they could have miniaturized sophisticated electrical
circuits in that space. So I assume it was just a light to indicate that AC
power (generator/inverter/shore) was available and after 30 years it only
comes on intermittently.On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Rich Carter wrote:
Quote:Looks to me like someone added a lamp for some reason. Maybe inverter on?
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One possibility. Do both you and the shore power have GFIs? shore power in Nove Scotia and Cape Breton does. When I plugged in to one of their docks, a shore side circuit breaker blew. Maybe there is some other effect at your dock related to this issue.
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Norris Larson, Easy Reach, #216, on the market.— On Fri, 8/13/10, Patrick wrote:
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I added GFI outlets on board, but they were not even in the circuit when the
light was on; all individual breakers were off.My working theory is the light should always be on and that it’s just
flakey.-p
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:59 PM, norris larson wrote:
Quote:One possibility. Do both you and the shore power have GFIs? shore power in
Nove Scotia and Cape Breton does. When I plugged in to one of their docks, a
shore side circuit breaker blew. Maybe there is some other effect at your
dock related to this issue.Norris Larson, Easy Reach, #216, on the market.
— On Fri, 8/13/10, Patrick wrote:
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Could it be a sun spot detector?
On 8/16/2010 5:18 PM, Patrick “Peaboy” Walters wrote:
Quote:I added GFI outlets on board, but they were not even in the circuit when the
light was on; all individual breakers were off.My working theory is the light should always be on and that it’s just
flakey.-p
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:59 PM, norris larsonwrote:
Quote:One possibility. Do both you and the shore power have GFIs? shore power in
Nove Scotia and Cape Breton does. When I plugged in to one of their docks, a
shore side circuit breaker blew. Maybe there is some other effect at your
dock related to this issue.Norris Larson, Easy Reach, #216, on the market.
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It might be a bad attitude detector. I was a bit grumpy at the time. 😉
-p
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Pete Dubler wrote:
Could it be a sun spot detector?
On 8/16/2010 5:18 PM, Patrick “Peaboy” Walters wrote:
I added GFI outlets on board, but they were not even in the circuit when
the
light was on; all individual breakers were off.My working theory is the light should always be on and that it’s just
flakey.-p
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:59 PM, norris larson<
wrote:
Quote:One possibility. Do both you and the shore power have GFIs? shore power
in
Nove Scotia and Cape Breton does. When I plugged in to one of their
docks, a
shore side circuit breaker blew. Maybe there is some other effect at your
dock related to this issue.Norris Larson, Easy Reach, #216, on the market.
— On Fri, 8/13/10, Patrick wrote:
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Clearly a non-asymmetrical hyperbolic phase imbalance inducing a wizz
bang super eight inductive field current.On 8/16/2010 8:51 PM, Patrick “Peaboy” Walters wrote:
It might be a bad attitude detector. I was a bit grumpy at the time. 😉
-p
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Pete Dubler wrote:
Could it be a sun spot detector?
On 8/16/2010 5:18 PM, Patrick “Peaboy” Walters wrote:
I added GFI outlets on board, but they were not even in the circuit when
the
light was on; all individual breakers were off.My working theory is the light should always be on and that it’s just
flakey.-p
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:59 PM, norris larson<
wrote:
Quote:One possibility. Do both you and the shore power have GFIs? shore power
in
Nove Scotia and Cape Breton does. When I plugged in to one of their
docks, a
shore side circuit breaker blew. Maybe there is some other effect at your
dock related to this issue.Norris Larson, Easy Reach, #216, on the market.
— On Fri, 8/13/10, Patrick wrote:
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That would make the light a super-wham-o-dyne doodah.
BobOn Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Pete Dubler wrote:
Clearly a non-asymmetrical hyperbolic phase imbalance inducing a wizz bang
super eight inductive field current.On 8/16/2010 8:51 PM, Patrick “Peaboy” Walters wrote:
It might be a bad attitude detector. I was a bit grumpy at the time. 😉
-p
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Pete Dubler
wrote:Could it be a sun spot detector?
On 8/16/2010 5:18 PM, Patrick “Peaboy” Walters wrote:
I added GFI outlets on board, but they were not even in the circuit when
the
light was on; all individual breakers were off.My working theory is the light should always be on and that it’s just
flakey.-p
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:59 PM, norris larson<
wrote:
Quote:One possibility. Do both you and the shore power have GFIs? shore power
in
Nove Scotia and Cape Breton does. When I plugged in to one of their
docks, a
shore side circuit breaker blew. Maybe there is some other effect at
your
dock related to this issue.Norris Larson, Easy Reach, #216, on the market.
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I’ve not dug into it yet, I’ve been thinking about my windlass all day more
on that to come as I’d welcome your collective advice.-=p
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Syringa wrote:
Patrick
Did you trace the wires? if so let me know and I will try to help.
Don Gardner
S/V Syringa #124/)+/)+~=:)
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What about your windlass are you thinking?
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> wrote:I’ve not dug into it yet, I’ve been thinking about my windlass all day more
on that to come as I’d welcome your collective advice.-=p
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Syringa wrote:
Patrick
Did you trace the wires? if so let me know and I will try to help.
Don Gardner
S/V Syringa #124/)+/)+~=:)
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I finally looked into that light on my AC Panel. Here’s a pic of how it’s wired on the back: http://www.flickr.com/photos/deepplaya/5010553633/
Looks to me like it really should be on all the time as I orignally pondered and some of you concurred.
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I suspect that the original green light went bad and there was a replacement
with the orange one. My panel from 1978 or so has a green light that
flickers as well, and other 424 panels I’ve seen have the same light. The
light on Patrick’s panel looks to be of a different generation than the
panel – more modern.But without carbon dating, I can’t tell.
Bob
PS, I added pilot lights to all my 12v breakers so I could tell the circuits
are on. If you’re going to do this, use regular LEDs. I purchased mine
from http://www.plasmaled.com with the theory that if an LED is good, then a plasma
LED would be much better. Needless to say, you can see my power panel from
two miles away at night through the port light over the aft bunk. You can
read a paper or chart at night with the panel. Sometimes, more power is not
necessarily better. I think I’ll try adding a resistor to the lights to see
if I can dim them some.On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 8:44 AM, wrote:
Quote:Looks like someone added it to show that shore power is on. Since all the
boat interior lights are 12v, you might not otherwise realize that the power
was off until the batteries got low or the hot water got cold.Rich
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My light goes on when the inverter is on and there is insufficient voltage
to attain 110. That is I often attain only 105. I think of the light as a
caution. For example, if I am trying to charge a battery and the voltage is less
than 110, I get a poorly charged battery.I’ve yet to see it go on when I’m on good shore power.
I have to admit that I find it confusing since it comes on sometimes and not
other times, inconsistantly and not predictably.Joe,
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Hi Joe,
Is it wired the same as Patrick’s? It sounds like it was repurposed to see
the inverter voltage rather than the shore power voltage.Bob
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Joseph Steiner wrote:
Quote:My light goes on when the inverter is on and there is insufficient voltage
to attain 110. That is I often attain only 105. I think of the light as a
caution. For example, if I am trying to charge a battery and the voltage is
less
than 110, I get a poorly charged battery.I’ve yet to see it go on when I’m on good shore power.
I have to admit that I find it confusing since it comes on sometimes and
not
other times, inconsistantly and not predictably.Joe,
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I can not tell if my wiring is the same right now..the boat is in Trinidad. But
I do have another light on the Heart which tells me I have shore power on, so
perhaps you are right. Though my gut says the light is orange to show the
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I would believe that if it was wired to the inverter, or if there were some
circuitry associated that knew there was AC but the voltage was below a
certain point (not difficult, but should be obvious). Also, the light could
be connected to the inverter itself or to the batteries to indicate low
charge.Or, it could be PFM. A light that doesn’t do anything but sometimes appears
to be indicating something. I love stuff like that…Bob
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Joseph Steiner wrote:
Quote:I can not tell if my wiring is the same right now..the boat is in Trinidad.
But
I do have another light on the Heart which tells me I have shore power on,
so
perhaps you are right. Though my gut says the light is orange to show the
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