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February 4, 2009 at 4:25 pm #67335
RichCarterParticipantSyringa,
I read your nonskid comment with interest. I’ve painted the side-decks and cockpit a couple of times each so far and have not found an acceptable finish. I have no intention of doing the cabin top until the side decks are acceptable.I first tried an interlux 2-part paint with non-skid added, but the paint was too slippery to walk on even with the nonskid added. I then painted over it with interlux 1-part nonskid paint. The nonskid is very aggressive. I feel very secure walking on it, but it doesn’t provide an even texture. It looks very nice for a year or so, but fades in the sunlight. I’m looking for something more durable with an even finish that wears well.
The kiwi-grip product looks like it will entirely fill-in the deck nonskid pattern. Is this true? Even so, this may not be an issue if it looks nice and wears well. How long have you had the finish? Does it hold its gloss? Does dirt get trapped in the surface or does it rinse off easilly? Did you paint the whole deck area or just the nonskid areas? Did you paint the cockpit? What colors did you use and what is your opinion on the color selection?
Pix?
Regards
Rich
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February 4, 2009 at 4:44 pm #71625
Paul Lefebvre
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Here is a blog on a Peterson 34 in Maine that recently applied Kiwi-grip,
with lots of photos:http://members.acadia.net/catamount/Greyhawk/2007-10/index.html
Paul
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February 4, 2009 at 5:08 pm #71627
Tor
ParticipantRich,
I painted Silver Heels’ foredeck with KiwiGrip a couple of months ago.
Q. The kiwi-grip product looks like it will entirely fill-in the deck nonskid pattern. Is this true?
A. Yes.Q. Even so, this may not be an issue if it looks nice and wears well.
A. It looks fine to my eye, but I may be less fussy about superficial cosmetics than some.Q. Does it hold its gloss?
A. Too soon to tell.Q. Does dirt get trapped in the surface or does it rinse off easily?
A. It seems to rinse easily enough.Q. Did you paint the whole deck area or just the nonskid areas?
A. Just the non-skid areas.Q. Did you paint the cockpit?
A. I don’t need or plan to do that. I will be painting a portion of the coachhouse when I get to it, and may also do the side decks.Q. What colors did you use and what is your opinion on the color selection?
A. I mixed their white and grey 50/50 (1) to reduce the glare of pure white (and avoid the solar heat of the dark grey), and (2) as an attempt to have it blend a little better with the original non-skid gelcoat color. I don’t believe a perfect match is possible. My mix isn’t even close in that regard.My one concern about my KiwiGrip’ed foredeck is that, while it provides excellent traction for deck shoes and sneakers, it feels kind of oily-slippery in bare feet when it’s wet. I have a real problem with that because I often live and sail barefoot in warm places. Been meaning to ask the vendor about it, but haven’t yet.
Tor
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February 5, 2009 at 12:15 am #71629
Syringa
ParticipantSyringa had a rough life the last few years spending four years in the south pacific sun and two years in Washington rain. Her nonskid was sun burned and powdery and in genreal looked bad. I also did some major work with the anchor windlass and needed to hide the old holes and repairs on the fwd deck
I also have a dog that likes to go sailing but was slipping all over the old nonskid. One book I read sugested a rubber based nonsikd for him and Kiwi Grip fit the bill.
I sanded the old nonsikd with 60 grit paper, taped off about a 30 sqft area at a time (about 2 hrs work.) I liked to use the 1/8″ trawl best to apply the nonskid paint and would paint and rollout about 2 or 3 sqft at a time. (I did most of my work in about 60 to 70 degree temp) I did have a rust flake in my first can of paint and had to do some fast cleaning to get it off the deck. But over all I have been happy with the end job.
My marina has a problem with roosting black birds from about Aug to the end of Oct. The birds like to eat blackberries then roost on my upper rigging and relieve themselves on my newly painted decks. I had to do a little more scrubbing to get the droppings off the deck as the nonskid is fairey aggressive. But Kiwi grip did not hold any of the blue black stains.
My over-all rating of Kiwi grip 1-10 is a about an 8. It is easy to apply, and the clean-up is a snap. If you roll an area too thin, wait a few hours and reapply more product and it looks great.
I hope this helped
Don
SV Syringa (Hull #124)
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February 5, 2009 at 12:51 am #71630
Tor
Participanta little more scrubbing to get the droppings off the deck
If you ever have more stubborn bird-dropping stains on your deck, a 50/50 mix of chlorine bleach and water in a spray bottle makes them disappear in seconds.
Tor
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February 5, 2009 at 5:34 am #71631
Syringa
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Thanks for the tip
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February 6, 2009 at 4:41 pm #71637
Tor
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The other day I wrote that I mixed my KiwiGrip deck paint 50/50 white and grey. Actually, I mixed 4 parts white to 1 part grey, wanting the a shade that would not get hot in the tropical sun, but with less glare than plain white.Tor
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February 6, 2009 at 6:40 pm #71638
sumocean
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Have the decks been painted in the pictures of your dodger?
Completely off the subject. What is the bird house looking thing on the port side of your main mast?Linus
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February 6, 2009 at 6:44 pm #71639
RichCarterParticipantTor
4:1, I assume you mixed a quart with each gallon. Did the color come out close to the nonskid color already on the deck?Rich
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February 6, 2009 at 7:23 pm #71640
Tor
ParticipantRich,
Yes, my 4:1 mix was one quart grey to one gallon white. No, it is not close to the original non-skid color. I experimented with very small amounts of KiwiGrip in various mix ratios to see if I could get something close to Pearson’s original, but even a darkened mix that seems to be in the neighborhood of it was an entirely different hue. So I gave that up and just went for a shade that made sense to me, a lightly toned-down white.
I believe there is something in the KiwiGrip literature to the effect that you can have your original gelcoat color analyzed by a good paint vendor so that they can then tint a can of white KiwiGrip to match. Check out their web site about that if it matters to you.
Tor
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February 6, 2009 at 7:23 pm #71641
Tor
ParticipantHi Linus,
I’ve only painted the foredeck so far. I had torn that area open when I re-did my anchor locker and windlass mount, etc, and had to do something to re-finish it once I had re-‘glassed it.
The “bird house” is a homemade shelter I fabricated to protect a Clearwire wi-fi modem/antenna. They don’t make an outdoor unit. I’m docked on the opposite side of a massive pier from the direction of their broadcasting source and the signal cannot pass through. So I had to get my modem/antenna up above the pier level, higher than was possible inside the cabin. It worked very well strapped to the mast, where it could “see” over the pier, but had to be made weatherproof.
Tor
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