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Hello all,
I’ve been searching for a P424 (having sold my last one several years ago… big mistake) and recently found a very unusual 1983 ketch.
It appears to have the deck configuration from a c-plan cutter, tho it is a Ketch rig. Specifically, there is no mid-ship companionway (no hatch, no stairs, additional bomar hatch slightly forward of where the companionway “should be.”)
There are some additional oddities in the interior: no wash basin in the V-berth; but there is a hanging locker in roughly that location (port side of V). BUT the rest of the interior is standard ketch – centerline table, two settees, galley to port, head to starboard, etc.
Has anyone seen a 1983 Ketch with these anomolies?? I’m very curious to know more.
Thanks,
Paul Audi
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Paul,
I've not heard of that configuration, but I do know several owners filled in the forward companionway. Unless you've done something similar to what Rich Carter documented on his website those hatches were a major source of deck leaks. Some owners decided to switch rather than fight and glassed in the hatch. Can you tell if this deck was modified in that way?John
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Paul Audi < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Hello all,
I've been searching for a P424 (having sold my last one several years ago… big mistake) and recently found a very unusual 1983 ketch.
It appears to have the deck configuration from a c-plan cutter, tho it is a Ketch rig. Specifically, there is no mid-ship companionway (no hatch, no stairs, additional bomar hatch slightly forward of where the companionway “should be.”)
There are some additional oddities in the interior: no wash basin in the V-berth; but there is a hanging locker in roughly that location (port side of V). BUT the rest of the interior is standard ketch – centerline table, two settees, galley to port, head to starboard, etc.
Has anyone seen a 1983 Ketch with these anomolies?? I'm very curious to know more.
Thanks,
Paul Audi
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John Stevenson
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I saw that listing. It appears there remains the bulkhead where the fwd companionway stairs would be, but one cannot see the actual stairs. My PO removed the fwd turtle and put in a lame-ass hatch. Oh, how I wish I had the leaky turtle again. I dream of a convenient secondary means of egress. (Those who have heard my malodorous, foul-mouthed brats would agree).
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Hi John,
It doesn’t appear to be a mod, tho I suppose it could be. There is no evidence of modification. Plus, it looks exactly like the deck of the same era c-plan cutters.P
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I too prefer the secondary deck access, regardless of leaks. I had a small dodger/hood that kept the vast majority of water at bay. I like the deck access, particulalry when working on the engine. This way, you could easily come and go, while the engine cover/stairs were displaced.
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Sounds odd. Can you send pictures?
Repairing the leaky main cabin companionway hatch wasn’t that big a deal. It took about 14 hours. It doesn’t leak even one drop now. Those of you who have the same hatch will have a choice of either repairing the area around the hatch as I did or waiting until the damage extends to a large area of the deck. When I first saw the boat, I thought the main cabin hatchway was a waste of space. Now that I’ve owned the boat for a number of years, I really like the easy access it provides. It means that I don’t have to climb over the dodger to get into the cockpit and below. It also makes loading and unloading the boat easier.
http://www.richardcarter.net/boat/deckRot/
Once again I thought I might mention that a local marine store has a pair of ladder brackets from Pearson. They bought a bunch of surplus stuff when Pearson went out of business. I think all they have left are the main cabin ladder brackets; no steps, but these are easy to fabricate. If anyone needs to replace a broken bracket or restore a removed main cabin hatch, pick them up before they are gone.
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Rich Carter
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Hi Rich,
You can see photos on Yachtworld. It’s currently in Wilmington Ca.
I also dig the main cabin companionway and used it frequently.
P
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This is the only 424 listing that I could find. This looks like a stock 424.
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Hi Rich,
P
PS – there are nearly a dozen 424s currently for sale on yachtworld
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It looks like it was a stock 424 except for the hanging locker on the port side in the V-berth. Why you would want yet another hanging locker is a mystery. For that matter, a third sink can be a waste of space too. It works for us since our daughter uses the forward cabin for her stateroom. She spends a lot of time primping.
It appears that someone has removed the main cabin companionway hatch and replaced it with a standard deck hatch. It’s hard to tell what they did there since there is no photo of the modification. I would ask them to send photos of the modification, both the deck and the cabin. If the new hatch is hinged, it is probably not suitable as a companionway hatch because someone is bound to overextend the hinge. I don’t know if you can do something to prevent the hatch from getting damaged. If the new hatch is unusable as a companionway or if the ladder is missing, this would be fairly straightforward to correct; assuming you want to restore the companionway.
see the link below.
http://www.marinershardware.com/ProdCHatches.phpThere are probably other manufacturers of similar hatches. From their description, I can’t tell how watertight these would be. The double-window sliding hatch looks cool.
The boat otherwise appears to be in good shape. Poor resolution images can hide a lot of cosmetic flaws however.
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Rich Carter
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The one picture that's missing is where the midship ladder is indicated on the plan. If there's a ladder there, you have a standard ketch layout with the midships hatch replaced with a regular hatch. That is, if the interior plan is correct. Certainly, there's nothing preventing you from popping out a regular opening hatch rather than a sliding one.
Bob
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Hi Rich,
Actually I don’t believe it’s a mod. As I mentioned in my first post, the c-plan Cutters had a deck (including the lack of main cabin companionway) exactly like this. While it could be a mod, it looks like pearson actually put this different deck on a ketch.
P
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Our ketch, #206, comes close to the description, but has a forward head next to the V-berth with a door to the salon. The table is off center to port.
Norris Larson, Easy Reach
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Hi Norris,
Do you have a mid-ship companionway (accessing the main salon)?
P
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