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    • #68676
      Anonymous

      Can someone either email me the most current OpenCPN User Manual, or else
      tell me (with certainty) where I can download it safely? I think I’m on a
      safe site where I can read it online, but if they’re offering a way to
      download it they are being very discrete about it.

      Thanks,

      iWizKid



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    • #79182
      Hull152_Patrick
      Spectator

      Site looks safe to me:
      http://opencpn.org/ocpn/opencpn_manual

      -p

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      On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Silverheels wrote:

      Can someone either email me the most current OpenCPN User Manual, or else
      tell me (with certainty) where I can download it safely? I think I’m on a
      safe site where I can read it online, but if they’re offering a way to
      download it they are being very discrete about it.

      Thanks,

      iWizKid



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      Thanks Dawn and Patrick!

    • #79183
      john stevenson
      Participant

      Tor,
      I just downloaded the OpenCPN dcoument from here:
      http://opencpn.org/ocpn/download. It is a local version of the online
      documentation.

      Regards,
      John Stevenson
      http://www.svsarah.com

      On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Silverheels wrote:

      Can someone either email me the most current OpenCPN User Manual, or else
      tell me (with certainty) where I can download it safely? I think I’m on a
      safe site where I can read it online, but if they’re offering a way to
      download it they are being very discrete about it.

      Thanks,

      iWizKid



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    • #79184
      Anonymous

      Thanks, Patrick, but the opencpn.org site from which I downloaded the file
      that crashed my computer looked safe to me, too.

      Tor



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    • #79185
      Anonymous

      At last! A ‘king’s taster.’ Thanks, John. One problem left:

      I see no Download User Manual link on that page. There is an “OpenCPN User
      Manual” link top/left that opens a Table of Contents on the web page. Or you
      can right click on it and Save Target As, but you wind up with a web page of
      the manual’s Table of Contents, not a PDF or MS Word file of the entire
      manual, which is what I’d expect a user manual to be. Still no Download User
      Manual link on the target web page, either. They do offer a
      “Printer-friendly version” link, but no friendly download feature there,
      either.

      These guys are very discrete about sharing their “open” program. Or maybe
      I’m just failing some pre-user IQ test. That must be it. Call me crazy, but
      I would have put a button way back at the beginning that said, “Download
      User Manual,” which fetches a good, old-fashioned PDF copy of said manual.

      Tucked away at the bottom of http://opencpn.org/ocpn/download is an “OpenCPN
      Documentation” download. Perhaps our benefactors are disguising this manual
      under the pseudonym, “documentation?” However, to download that, you
      apparently need a special program to handle the Doc302.7z file. It was a
      special zip program that crashed my computer last week, and this web page
      features the same damned Big Green Download Button for it. Been there, done
      that. Prefer not to do it again.

      So, amigo, when you say you “just downloaded the OpenCPN document from…
      http://opencpn.org/ocpn/download, can you please tell this cyber-dummy
      exactly where and how you managed that?

      Much appreciated,

      Tor



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    • #79186
      madsailor
      Moderator

      Hi Tor,

      Ok, now I understand the problem. The 7zip file is an archive your Windows
      can’t read and it looked for a program to read it and you picked the big
      green button that gave you something else. I’ve just downloaded the manual
      and I’ve extracted it and I’ll re-zip it so you can read it if you want.
      Bad news, it’s 20mb, and it’s an HTML manual so you need to read it with a
      browser.

      They’re not being cagey. It’s open source meaning it’s free and they
      develop these things for fun and maybe some profit if anyone deigns to
      donate. So documentation is last on their list of things to do.
      Programmers, by and large, are lazy. Good programmers are very lazy.
      Lazy, in this case, is a good thing because they will find the shortest,
      easiest way to get a particular function to work.

      I just checked my OpenCPN and the manual is already installed and I don’t
      remember specially doing it. If you start OpenCPN and click on the ?
      button what happens?

      Bob

      On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Silverheels wrote:

      Quote:
      Thanks, Patrick, but the opencpn.org site from which I downloaded the file
      that crashed my computer looked safe to me, too.

      Tor



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    • #79187
      madsailor
      Moderator

      Oh, and 7zip archives are open sourced as well so they don’t have to pay
      licensing to the people who created the zip archives.

      On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Robert Fine wrote:

      Quote:
      Hi Tor,

      Ok, now I understand the problem. The 7zip file is an archive your
      Windows can’t read and it looked for a program to read it and you picked
      the big green button that gave you something else. I’ve just downloaded
      the manual and I’ve extracted it and I’ll re-zip it so you can read it if
      you want. Bad news, it’s 20mb, and it’s an HTML manual so you need to read
      it with a browser.

      They’re not being cagey. It’s open source meaning it’s free and they
      develop these things for fun and maybe some profit if anyone deigns to
      donate. So documentation is last on their list of things to do.
      Programmers, by and large, are lazy. Good programmers are very lazy.
      Lazy, in this case, is a good thing because they will find the shortest,
      easiest way to get a particular function to work.

      I just checked my OpenCPN and the manual is already installed and I don’t
      remember specially doing it. If you start OpenCPN and click on the ?
      button what happens?

      Bob

      On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Silverheels wrote:

      Quote:
      Thanks, Patrick, but the opencpn.org site from which I downloaded the
      file
      that crashed my computer looked safe to me, too.

      Tor



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    • #79188
      Anonymous

      Thanks, Bob, I would be grateful to receive from you ANY version of the user
      manual that doesn’t require me to download that computer-killing program.

      Boy, these guys really are lazy if they couldn’t be bothered to make a
      simple PDF manual. One wonders that they managed to create the program at
      all. Oh, well, I guess we get what we pay for. If it’s half as good as you
      guys say it is I’ll be thrilled. I have already determined that it can read
      my old chart collection, which is why I’m pursuing it. These are charts I
      used with Capn Voyager v6, which the v8 does not recognize. (More lazy
      programmers!)

      I suspect the reason my Windows won’t open a 7z file and yours will is
      because my dedicated little nav laptop, an old Toughbook I’ve had for years,
      runs on XP. Perhaps my main (new) machine, using Windows 7, could open those
      files. But I’m not risking this computer with anything from that OpenCPN web
      site. Push comes to shove, I could Recover the Toughbook again in a day or
      so. My main laptop would take a week.

      Looking forward to your re-zipped manual.

      Thanks again,

      Tor



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    • #79189
      john stevenson
      Participant

      Tor,
      Yes, I was your taster for the documentation download. Least I could do
      after giving you the link that lead to disaster. I’ve downloaded the file,
      and Winzip will unzip it. As Bob noted it is a set of HTML files that can
      be accessed via your browser. These are the same files as provided with
      the OpenCPN download and accessed via the “?” button in OpenCPN, so you
      should not have to download anything.

      Regards,
      John Stevenson
      http://www.svsarah.com

      On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Robert Fine wrote:

      Oh, and 7zip archives are open sourced as well so they don’t have to pay
      licensing to the people who created the zip archives.

      On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Robert Fine wrote:

      Hi Tor,

      Ok, now I understand the problem. The 7zip file is an archive your
      Windows can’t read and it looked for a program to read it and you picked
      the big green button that gave you something else. I’ve just downloaded
      the manual and I’ve extracted it and I’ll re-zip it so you can read it if
      you want. Bad news, it’s 20mb, and it’s an HTML manual so you need to

      read

      it with a browser.

      They’re not being cagey. It’s open source meaning it’s free and they
      develop these things for fun and maybe some profit if anyone deigns to
      donate. So documentation is last on their list of things to do.
      Programmers, by and large, are lazy. Good programmers are very lazy.
      Lazy, in this case, is a good thing because they will find the shortest,
      easiest way to get a particular function to work.

      I just checked my OpenCPN and the manual is already installed and I don’t
      remember specially doing it. If you start OpenCPN and click on the ?
      button what happens?

      Bob

      On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Silverheels

      wrote:

      Quote:
      Quote:
      Thanks, Patrick, but the opencpn.org site from which I downloaded the
      file
      that crashed my computer looked safe to me, too.

      Tor



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    • #79190
      madsailor
      Moderator

      No, actually, the reason it doesn’t read 7zip files is because the people
      who wrote .zip archive software won’t read competitor’s 7zip archive. That
      simple.

      I’ve made it into a .pdf, but it’s 16 Mb and I’ll have to get it to you
      through Google Docs or something because I don’t want to send 16mb files to
      everyone in the list. Or, I’ll use a site like ‘sharethis’ or something.

      If you’ve already installed it, the help files will be installed. This
      document looks just like them.

      Bob

      On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Silverheels wrote:

      Quote:
      Thanks, Bob, I would be grateful to receive from you ANY version of the
      user
      manual that doesn’t require me to download that computer-killing program.

      Boy, these guys really are lazy if they couldn’t be bothered to make a
      simple PDF manual. One wonders that they managed to create the program at
      all. Oh, well, I guess we get what we pay for. If it’s half as good as you
      guys say it is I’ll be thrilled. I have already determined that it can read
      my old chart collection, which is why I’m pursuing it. These are charts I
      used with Capn Voyager v6, which the v8 does not recognize. (More lazy
      programmers!)

      I suspect the reason my Windows won’t open a 7z file and yours will is
      because my dedicated little nav laptop, an old Toughbook I’ve had for
      years,
      runs on XP. Perhaps my main (new) machine, using Windows 7, could open
      those
      files. But I’m not risking this computer with anything from that OpenCPN
      web
      site. Push comes to shove, I could Recover the Toughbook again in a day or
      so. My main laptop would take a week.

      Looking forward to your re-zipped manual.

      Thanks again,

      Tor



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    • #79191
      Anonymous

      As I mentioned to Bob, clicking on the ? in my OpenCPN does lead to the
      manual’s Table of Contents, but nothing more.

      I should be OK with what Bob’s getting to me.

      Thanks again,

      Tor


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    • #79192
      Anonymous

      Bob,

      Yes, please do put that manual (in any format besides 7z) somewhere where I
      can then download it – without burdening the forum with it.

      Clicking on the ? in my OpenCPN does lead to the manual’s Table of Contents,
      but nothing more.

      Tor



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    • #79193
      madsailor
      Moderator

      Finally, here’s the link to a .zip file for the HTML version of the
      manual. Somewhere in the OpenCPN program directory is a manuals
      directory. Unzipping this there should give you a complete set of manuals
      as you use the program.

      https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5btHG0zM5TGWnRkX2E0QXROVnc/edit?usp=sharing

      I’ll keep the file up for a while as I mentioned for the .pdf file.

      Bob

      On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Silverheels wrote:

      Quote:
      Bob,

      Yes, please do put that manual (in any format besides 7z) somewhere where I
      can then download it – without burdening the forum with it.

      Clicking on the ? in my OpenCPN does lead to the manual’s Table of
      Contents,
      but nothing more.

      Tor



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    • #79194
      john stevenson
      Participant

      Tor,
      When you click on the “?” button you should get the “About OpenCPN”
      window. Clicking the “Help” tab should open the documentation in your
      browser. The first part of the documentation is a table of contents, each
      entry in which should be Hyperlinked to the document. If this is not the
      case then you may have a bad install.

      Regards,
      John Stevenson
      http://www.svsarah.com

      On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Robert Fine wrote:

      Finally, here’s the link to a .zip file for the HTML version of the
      manual. Somewhere in the OpenCPN program directory is a manuals
      directory. Unzipping this there should give you a complete set of manuals
      as you use the program.

      https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5btHG0zM5TGWnRkX2E0QXROVnc/edit?usp=sharing

      I’ll keep the file up for a while as I mentioned for the .pdf file.

      Bob

      On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Silverheels wrote:

      Bob,

      Yes, please do put that manual (in any format besides 7z) somewhere

      where I

      Quote:
      can then download it – without burdening the forum with it.

      Clicking on the ? in my OpenCPN does lead to the manual’s Table of
      Contents,
      but nothing more.

      Tor



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    • #79195
      Anonymous

      John,

      Your description is correct. Guess I have a bad install. Why does that not
      surprise me?

      Rather than continue to screw around with this thing indefinitely I will
      download Bob Fine’s manual and then see if the program works.

      Thanks for your help,

      Tor


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    • #79197
      Anonymous

      Bob,

      I will try unzipping this one in the program directory shortly and will let
      you know how that goes.

      Tor



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