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    • #68316
      Adam Silverstein
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      Those who paint spars: how much epoxy paint covers both masts and booms (2 coats)? And that stepped bolt through the tangs looks daunting. Is there any way around cutting and replacing it?

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    • #77097
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      I did mine in the last year. Main, mizzen, spreaders and booms took 3 qt of interlux brightside. I did 2 coats on everything and 3 coats on booms. If time had allowed would like to have done 3 on masts.
      Mine had been painted by PO with an unknown paint – so advice from interlux was either go to bare metal and prime if I wanted 2 part epoxy. Or run 120 grit on existing then use single part paint. 2 part epoxy is very finicky on primer – if you paint it on a not compatible previous base it may not take or may have adverse reaction.
      I am pleased with the brightsides – at least compared to what I had….

      Eric Lorentzon
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      On Apr 23, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Mizzenmonkey wrote:

      Those who paint spars: how much epoxy paint covers both masts and booms (2 coats)? And that stepped bolt through the tangs looks daunting. Is there any way around cutting and replacing it?

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    • #77100
      petedd
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      Coming soon to a Blue Water Sailing magazine near you… the full
      repainting of Regina Oceani, starting with the spars.

      Pete

      On 4/23/2011 4:38 PM, S V Navasana wrote:

      I did mine in the last year. Main, mizzen, spreaders and booms took 3 qt of interlux brightside. I did 2 coats on everything and 3 coats on booms. If time had allowed would like to have done 3 on masts.
      Mine had been painted by PO with an unknown paint – so advice from interlux was either go to bare metal and prime if I wanted 2 part epoxy. Or run 120 grit on existing then use single part paint. 2 part epoxy is very finicky on primer – if you paint it on a not compatible previous base it may not take or may have adverse reaction.
      I am pleased with the brightsides – at least compared to what I had….

      Eric Lorentzon
      SV Navasana – hull 59
      Sent from my iPhone

      On Apr 23, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Mizzenmonkey wrote:

      Those who paint spars: how much epoxy paint covers both masts and booms (2 coats)? And that stepped bolt through the tangs looks daunting. Is there any way around cutting and replacing it?

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    • #77101
      petedd
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      I ended up grinding the head down and then drilling the head down to the
      shaft followed by knocking the head off with a punch and hammer. Silly
      design…

      Pete

      On 4/23/2011 2:32 PM, Mizzenmonkey wrote:

      Those who paint spars: how much epoxy paint covers both masts and booms (2 coats)? And that stepped bolt through the tangs looks daunting. Is there any way around cutting and replacing it?

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    • #77102
      Adam Silverstein
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      If you had to remove the head to get it out, how did they get it in? A compression sleeve has one large hole and one small. What’s under yonder tang?

      And I enjoyed stripping Mizzen boom today. Looking forward to etc. How many screws in tangs and cleats snapped off below the head. Just give me a percentage so I know how many more cobalt bits to buy.

      PS I may have a line on replacing mast steps. Aluminum and a buck fifty in Little Ferry NJ. Ill know this week if they are bona fide. How have folks built up their steps after shaving a few inches off the mast? Can I just encase some oak in ‘glass?

      Adam

      On Apr 23, 2011, at 10:12 PM, Pete Dubler wrote:

      I ended up grinding the head down and then drilling the head down to the shaft followed by knocking the head off with a punch and hammer. Silly design…

      Pete

      On 4/23/2011 2:32 PM, Mizzenmonkey wrote:

      Those who paint spars: how much epoxy paint covers both masts and booms (2 coats)? And that stepped bolt through the tangs looks daunting. Is there any way around cutting and replacing it?

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    • #77110
      Anonymous

      that sounds awful. I’m already burning through cobalt bits and I’ve only
      stripped the mizzen. Question: Assuming they had to get the stepped bolt
      IN, why must it be destroyed to remove it? With a compression sleeve, we
      drill one side wider and slip it in over the bolt – ez in, ez out. How are
      you filling in the divots? I am using West, but I also have the low-temp
      aluminum welding rod used to fix bullet holes in helicopters.

      -adam

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    • #77113
      petedd
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      The sleeve fuses to the bolt. Easy in, 30-years, not-so-easy out.

      I used some Muggyweld for many of the holes but will be redoing some
      with aluminum threaded rod which is really the safer way to go according
      to a few spar builders I contracted. For the dents and divits, I am
      using the Alexseal paint system and their filler. Also will be using
      some high-build primer.

      Pete

      On 4/25/2011 7:06 AM, Adam Silverstein wrote:

      that sounds awful. I’m already burning through cobalt bits and I’ve
      only stripped the mizzen. Question: Assuming they had to get the
      stepped bolt IN, why must it be destroyed to remove it? With a
      compression sleeve, we drill one side wider and slip it in over the
      bolt – ez in, ez out. How are you filling in the divots? I am using
      West, but I also have the low-temp aluminum welding rod used to fix
      bullet holes in helicopters.

      -adam

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    • #77114
      Anonymous

      When putting stainless screws/bolts into aluminum, coat the ss
      (especially the threads) with LanoCote. I haven’t used the stuff long
      enough to know how long it’ll keep the parts from fusing, but I gather
      it’s many years. After 2+ years I took out some screws as if they’d only
      been in 2 days.

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    • #77116
      john stevenson
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      Another product to bed SS fasteners in aluminum is Tef-Gel, probably
      no better in this application than LanoCole. I haven’t used the
      later. On a previous boat I used Liquid Life Caulk. 10 years later
      the fasteners came out with only gentle persuasion (no impact driver)
      and no striped heads.

      Regards,
      John Stevenson
      http://www.svsarah.com

      On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Silverheels wrote:

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      When putting stainless screws/bolts into aluminum, coat the ss
      (especially the threads) with LanoCote. I haven’t used the stuff long
      enough to know how long it’ll keep the parts from fusing, but I gather
      it’s many years. After 2+ years I took out some screws as if they’d only
      been in 2 days.

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    • #77117
      Anonymous

      Anyone use threadlocker blue as anti-galling coating?

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    • #77118
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      I recall using Lok-Tite (threadlocker) for that purpose years ago, and
      then sort of forgot about it. I picked up on LanoCote from an aluminum
      boat owner who swore by it. I guess there are any number of products
      that can separate dissimilar metals in that application, enough to
      prevent them interacting. John’s Tef-Gel sounds like another good one.

      Tor


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    • #77119
      john stevenson
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      Adam,
      If I remember correctly, the Bllue Loctite suff is a pretty strong
      adhesive. It might require a little more persuasion to remove the
      fasteners, but probably nothing more than a heat gun.

      Regards,
      John Stevenson
      http://www.svsarah.com

      On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Silverheels wrote:

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      I recall using Lok-Tite (threadlocker) for that purpose years ago, and
      then sort of forgot about it. I picked up on LanoCote from an aluminum
      boat owner who swore by it. I guess there are any number of products
      that can separate dissimilar metals in that application, enough to
      prevent them interacting. John’s Tef-Gel sounds like another good one.

      Tor


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    • #77120
      Anonymous

      I think it was the red, less strong Loctite we used to use. Then there’s
      also Never-Seez.

      Tor


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