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    • #68053
      unabated
      Participant

      Well, here’s the thing.
      Once you tell the marina people “anything”, how much are you liable for.
      He followed my directions…… to both our satisfaction… could he have done more…. who knows, should he have done more….. It was just a matter of an inch or two to where the Black Dot was that everyone has used..
      Next time….. walk away and let them do it on their own….. and let them be totally responsible.
      A life lesson…..
      Alan

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    • #75612
      Anonymous

      OK, walk away, but leave them with the sketch before you do. Then they’ve
      got no excuses whatsoever if they mess up.

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    • #75615
      madsailor
      Moderator

      Hi Alan,

      When I was at Indiantown and I suppose every other marina, once you sign the
      contract for hauling they are essentially not responsible for anything. The
      one at Indiantown was so onerous as to not be enforceable in that it removed
      all rights from the customer.

      I told them that (the owner) and he said he knew but it was to cover his
      ass.

      Be careful of the marina’s reputation and their contract for hauling.

      I’m not a lawyer, but I do get the general drift. (I don’t play one on TV
      either)

      Anyway, if it was by your direction then I guess you’re right. You’re
      screwed.

      Bob

      On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Alan <> wrote:

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      Well, here’s the thing.
      Once you tell the marina people “anything”, how much are you liable for.
      He followed my directions…… to both our satisfaction… could he have
      done more…. who knows, should he have done more….. It was just a matter
      of an inch or two to where the Black Dot was that everyone has used..
      Next time….. walk away and let them do it on their own….. and let them
      be totally responsible.
      A life lesson…..
      Alan

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    • #75620
      Anonymous

      Bob,

      I bought my 424 at Indiantown Marina. Might have stayed there to do the
      refit, but the (then new) owner was a virtual Nazi. Rules posted everywhere,
      no exceptions, and everything totally one-sided – in his favor, of course.
      Personally, I wouldn’t have anything to do the place as long as he’s running
      it. Too bad, because otherwise I kind of liked it there. Friendly little
      Mexican town, some open Everglades-like countryside to explore. Nice.

      Tor
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    • #75622
      madsailor
      Moderator

      It turns out, like in any authoritarian society, one can bend the rules. I,
      too, was a bit horrified by the rules and contract. However, they gave me a
      slip for half a week at $20.00 per day with electricity, because the haulout
      was late in the day, they gave me that day free. Their prices are amazing
      for all the stuff they sell.

      Once you get used to Aaahnald (actually Scott who looks like the Terminator)
      running the place you’re free to do pretty much what you like.

      Here’s what I’ve found – act like an asshole, they’ll treat you that way.
      Behave like a civilized adult and you’re golden.

      I especially liked the Cracker Cafe. Excellent food cheap.

      I probably broke all the rules on the boards there except “You are not
      allowed to kill other boaters” – really, it turned out ok and I’d go back.
      Rebecca, Scott’s wife, is very kind and open to dealing. She’s also hot.
      But I digress.

      The prices for zincs there are 1/2 anywhere else.

      Anyway, different people, different experiences. I really liked them beyond
      the stupid contract. Having lived in marinas a lot, I know that there are,
      um, boaters that, um, make life difficult for the rest of us. That’s who
      Scott is trying to protect himself from. It’s hard to do, but I agree he
      could have done it with a little more finesse.

      What do you expect from a terminator, though? 🙂

      Bob

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      Bob,

      I bought my 424 at Indiantown Marina. Might have stayed there to do the
      refit, but the (then new) owner was a virtual Nazi. Rules posted
      everywhere,
      no exceptions, and everything totally one-sided – in his favor, of course.
      Personally, I wouldn’t have anything to do the place as long as he’s
      running
      it. Too bad, because otherwise I kind of liked it there. Friendly little
      Mexican town, some open Everglades-like countryside to explore. Nice.

      Tor
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    • #75624
      Anonymous

      Bob,

      Glad to hear it’s better staying there than I sensed it would be. Maybe
      things have settled some since my brief encounter in late 2006. In fact, I
      got along well with the management while I was there. I just didn’t like
      tiptoeing around to do it.

      Tor
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    • #75625
      madsailor
      Moderator

      Aw, hell, I galumphed around to do it… 🙂

      On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Silver Heels <> wrote:

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      Glad to hear it’s better staying there than I sensed it would be. Maybe
      things have settled some since my brief encounter in late 2006. In fact, I
      got along well with the management while I was there. I just didn’t like
      tiptoeing around to do it.

      Tor
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    • #75626
      Anonymous

      Galumphing works.

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    • #75627
      hanks424
      Participant

      Sorry about the damage.

      Every time I get SHAY hauled, I have the lift operator stop for 30 seconds after the straps are first tight. Jump aboard, spin the propshaft from inside the boat, give him the “all clear” and walk away. This saves the “breath holding” when hauling.

      Hank S.
      SHAY #80

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    • #75628
      Anonymous

      Smart!

      Tor
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    • #75629
      sumocean
      Participant

      Even though my yard has lifted the boat several times I always turn the
      shaft just as he tightens the straps. After I confirm that the prop is not
      involved he lifts the boat. Now it’s a habit and he expects it.

      Linus


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    • #75642
      kalinowski
      Participant

      I guess I’m in good hands here at Ke’ehi Marina. Before thay began to pull the straps, a worker dove the boat to make sure all was OK!

      Dan Kalinowski
      Lady Leanne II (#135)
      Honolulu

    • #75643
      hanks424
      Participant

      Lucky guy. If a worker dove the boat in Ft. Lauderdale cutoff canal he’d have to ‘feel’ for the straps and the prop.
      Hank S.
      SHAY #80

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