Rebuild Walter V-drive

[madsailor]

Hi Don,

Thank you so much for your input. It's great to see a manufacturer take an interest in even our small group.  One thing you might want to let us know is how to know the v-drive needs rebuilding.  Or does it make an extraordinary noise?

Thanks,

Bob
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Bob Fine
s/v Pelican
Hull #8

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[Tor]

Dear Don C,

I appreciate your interest in our group, too. However, with respect, your “total average rebuild (cost of) $560” does not include paying a boat yard mechanic a million dollars per hour to remove, ship, and re-install the unit, plus tax, plus the yard’s mark-up on your labor and parts, plus your shipping and handling charges to return same to those of us outside of Jersey City, NJ. Plus tax. Plus tax. I personally thank you for your feedback on this subject – your company builds a fine product and we all benefit by it – but do consider the consumer’s real total expense for these things. I suspect it’s closer to $1,000 than $560.

Best regards,

Tor
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[RLeeds]

DonC:

Thank you for your feedback–I boat on Long Island,NY, and can easily remove the vdrive and bring it to your location. I am glad I know of this option now and that the cost is moderate. I will now plan on bringing the unit in next fall after this season.

Rodd Leeds

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[john stevenson]

I also appreciate Walters offering their labor rates the cost of the parts kits to our members.  I know if (when) I need a rebuild on my unit I will do my utmost to deal with them directly.

Tor (and Rich) is correct in his assessment of the cost, if you use a yard to as your interface to Walters.  I had my V-drive rebuilt in 2000 through the local yard/dealer in Solomons, MD.  The cost after paying the yard to de-install, ship, and re-install was about $1,200.  Now I know better.

John

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DonC:
 
Thank you for your feedback–I boat on Long Island,NY, and can easily remove the vdrive and bring it to your location.  I am glad I know of this option now and that the cost is moderate.  I will now plan on bringing the unit in next fall after this season.
 
Rodd Leeds
 

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[Chuck Ruble]

You guys might want to respond to Don directly.  I doubt he subscribes to the list.  God forbid he has to read about shower curtians choices and drifter sock management…
 
Your comments are right on though, it was very respectable of him to take the time to post some pricing details and manufacturer concerns about such an important component in our boats drive train.
 
Chuck

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Rodd Leeds < ([email][/email])> wrote:

 

DonC:
 
Thank you for your feedback–I boat on Long Island,NY, and can easily remove the vdrive and bring it to your location.  I am glad I know of this option now and that the cost is moderate.  I will now plan on bringing the unit in next fall after this season.
 
Rodd Leeds
 

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[patn]

I’ll put all the responses together and send them off to Don

-pat

On 3/19/09 9:45 PM, Chuck Ruble wrote:

You guys might want to respond to Don directly. I doubt he subscribes
to the list. God forbid he has to read about shower curtians
choices and drifter sock management…

Your comments are right on though, it was very respectable of him to
take the time to post some pricing details and manufacturer concerns
about such an important component in our boats drive train.

Chuck

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Rodd Leeds <
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DonC:

Thank you for your feedback–I boat on Long Island,NY, and can
easily remove the vdrive and bring it to your location. I am
glad I know of this option now and that the cost is moderate.
I will now plan on bringing the unit in next fall after this
season.

Rodd Leeds

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[Tor]

Shower curtain choices?

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[Anonymous]

Dear Mr. Fine,

Glad to be of help.

The most common indications that a V-Drive may be in need of a tear-down / rebuild:

a) Water in the oil (after being submerged); water in the oil usually appears milky-white or tan or brown
b) If oil smells burnt
c) If there is any unusual or increasing noise coming from V-Drive
d) If there is an oil leakage from lower (output) seal
e) After an underwater impact to the propeller (which results in a high shock load to the V-Drive)

Sincerely,

Don Chatrnuck
THE WALTER MACHINE COMPANY, INC.
– Established 1927 –
84 – 98 Cambridge Ave
Jersey City, NJ 07307
USA
(201) 656-5654 – Main
(201) 656-0318 – Facsimile
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Subject: Rebuild Walter V-drive

Hi Don,

Thank you so much for your input. It’s great to see a manufacturer take an interest in even our small group. One thing you might want to let us know is how to know the v-drive needs rebuilding. Or does it make an extraordinary noise?

Thanks,

Bob
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s/v Pelican
Hull #8

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[unabated]

I think question we all have is the water cooling issue. I know some of the folks have either taken the water off or lined the cooling jacket with epoxy. Do you have any suggestions for cooling and minimizing the cooling jacket being eaten away?
alan

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[patn]

I would like to add that we have the perception that the v-drive was
built for power boats where one finds prolonged high speed use. On our
sailboats “high speed” is 6-7 kts and the usual day would be < 2 hrs of
engine time. It seems that the Walter was way over built for our uses
( which is a good thing )

– pat
SV Doris E, p424 #178

On 3/20/09 7:56 AM, Alan P wrote:

I think question we all have is the water cooling issue. I know some
of the folks have either taken the water off or lined the cooling
jacket with epoxy. Do you have any suggestions for cooling and
minimizing the cooling jacket being eaten away?
alan

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[Syringa]

Don

I had some light salt buildup on my dipstick (no water in the oil) so I repaired the cooling chamber with epoxy as instructed in the manual. I also flushed the oil several times and changed the oil from 90W to 30W. I removed the raw water cooling from my v-drive (November 2007 and have over 100 hrs of running time). I installed a temp gauge in the one of the lower drain pulgs. I ran the unit at near hull speed for over 3 hours and the v-drive has never gotten above 130 F. The Walters manual states ” Proper operating temperatures are from 140 degrees to 180 although safe operating temperatures may be as high as 210.” As the waters of Puget Sound never get much above 47 degrees I don’t know if the cold running temps are due to the cold surroundings or because we don’t use the motor when we can sail. Anyway my v-drive is still running smooth, quiet, and cool. I should also say that I left all the fittings on the v-drive cooling so if I need to I can reconnect them.

[sumocean]

I like the one that’s mostly transparent with all the little fishes .

Linus

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[Tor]

What, no Popeye and Pluto?

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[quent]

Pat-
Please ask Don for similar price quote on a RV-20, the unit in most/all P-424s. Also, do they repair or replace gearboxes that rust and leak.
Thanks,
Quent

[Anonymous]

Our V-drive blew a seal which we discovered just after leaving Livingston, Guatemala. We returned to port, re-entered, etc., and found a local engine mecahnic who said to replace the oill bath with 90 grade oil. That worked to stop the leak.

When we returned to Chicago, we had the drive rebuilt by Larson’s Marine in Waukegan, Illlinois. I considered buying a new V-drive, but then went for the yard’s rebuild. The bill was $1,500. ( I was back to consulting and didn’t have time to fuss the with V-drive and many things that needed to be done after a voage of several thousand miles to Central America and back.) Afterwards, I thought it would have been just as smart to buy a new one and avoid all the yard labor costs.

Norris Larson, Easy Reach, #203

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