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    • #67094
      Anonymous

      Beginning Friday at about 4 PM or so…there will be a P424 Ketch on a mooring 100 yards directly West of the South Pier of East Hampton Point, the second major marina on the left as you mosey along South to Red Nun 24. It will be flying a barrage of signal flags. That’ll be me, WAVEMAKER. After you pass red nun 24 and enter the mooring channel (Marked by new buoys) to the West and in to the mooring field, turn North to get back towards WAVEMAKER. I’ll answer any questions before you anchor, point out all the POI’s and provide liquid refreshment and idle conversation to anyone who cares to dally. I recommend anchoring and rafting north of my position. ALL ARE WELCOME for refreshment before dinner. If the flags are up I am afloat and aboard.

      IMPORTANT THINGS TO REMEMBER

      1. DON’T TURN WEST UNTIL NUN 24 and then into the new mooring channel marked by a green and a red marker. Otherwise you’ll be spending too much time with Sea Tow instead of us.
      2. Don’t go too close to the North end of the Harbor – less than 80 yards or so – because the bottom gets shallow.
      3. Use plenty of scope. Itinerant captains have been known to successfully anchor in absentia for over a week or so, sans hurricanes.
      4. WE have active, unpleasant and unprofessional in my humble opinion, Marine Police. Last weekend they dispensed over 200 summonses during the Bastille Day fireworks. IF YOU DINGHY, FOLLOW THESE RULES OR YOU WILL GET A TICKET REQUIRING A PERSONAL APPEARANCE.
      Keep speed under 5 knots – all vessels all times – in 3 Mile Harbor
      Every person must have a PFD Type 1,2 or 3 available, and kids under 15 must have it ON incl. a dinghy. I suggest all occupants put one on so you won’t get stopped.
      If you dinghy at night, you must have a position light in addition to PFD’s. You can buy one at West Marine that works with two C batteries and has a suction cup for your outboard top.

      TRUST ME ON THIS. I have several citations to prove it.

      Remember, I am a lawyer, if you get cited, get in touch with me. They often screw it up.
      DON’T SAY A WORD or they will make your life miserable. I know of a case where after informing a boater he was getting a warning, when they asked for the names of all the officers involved, since they were so disrespectful and unpleasant, the officer changed the warning to a summons. They have nothing else to do in East Hampton except make life miserable for us tourists.

      WAVEMAKER

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    • #70350
      madsailor
      Moderator

      Hi Thatcher,

      Thank you so much for the info! How are they about boarding yachts? Is that typically an issue?

      Bob

      On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Thatcher Stone < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Beginning Friday at about 4 PM or so…there will be a P424 Ketch on a mooring 100 yards directly West of the South Pier of East Hampton Point, the second major marina on the left as you mosey along South to Red Nun 24. It will be flying a barrage of signal flags. That’ll be me, WAVEMAKER. After you pass red nun 24 and enter the mooring channel (Marked by new buoys) to the West and in to the mooring field, turn North to get back towards WAVEMAKER. I’ll answer any questions before you anchor, point out all the POI’s and provide liquid refreshment and idle conversation to anyone who cares to dally. I recommend anchoring and rafting north of my position. ALL ARE WELCOME for refreshment before dinner. If the flags are up I am afloat and aboard.

      IMPORTANT THINGS TO REMEMBER

      1. DON’T TURN WEST UNTIL NUN 24 and then into the new mooring channel marked by a green and a red marker. Otherwise you’ll be spending too much time with Sea Tow instead of us.
      2. Don’t go too close to the North end of the Harbor – less than 80 yards or so – because the bottom gets shallow.
      3. Use plenty of scope. Itinerant captains have been known to successfully anchor in absentia for over a week or so, sans hurricanes.
      4. WE have active, unpleasant and unprofessional in my humble opinion, Marine Police. Last weekend they dispensed over 200 summonses during the Bastille Day fireworks. IF YOU DINGHY, FOLLOW THESE RULES OR YOU WILL GET A TICKET REQUIRING A PERSONAL APPEARANCE.
      Keep speed under 5 knots – all vessels all times – in 3 Mile Harbor
      Every person must have a PFD Type 1,2 or 3 available, and kids under 15 must have it ON incl. a dinghy. I suggest all occupants put one on so you won’t get stopped.
      If you dinghy at night, you must have a position light in addition to PFD’s. You can buy one at West Marine that works with two C batteries and has a suction cup for your outboard top.

      TRUST ME ON THIS. I have several citations to prove it.

      Remember, I am a lawyer, if you get cited, get in touch with me. They often screw it up.
      DON’T SAY A WORD or they will make your life miserable. I know of a case where after informing a boater he was getting a warning, when they asked for the names of all the officers involved, since they were so disrespectful and unpleasant, the officer changed the warning to a summons. They have nothing else to do in East Hampton except make life miserable for us tourists.

      WAVEMAKER

      —
      Bob Fine
      Fine Software LLC
      Your data on the web your way. No kidding

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    • #70351
      unabated
      Participant

      Why, do you have some something to worry about?
      a
      — Robert Fine <> wrote:

      Hi Thatcher,

      Thank you so much for the info! How are they about
      boarding yachts? Is
      that typically an issue?

      Bob

      On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Thatcher Stone
      <> wrote:

      Beginning Friday at about 4 PM or so…there will

      be a P424 Ketch on a

      mooring 100 yards directly West of the South Pier

      of East Hampton Point, the

      second major marina on the left as you mosey along

      South to Red Nun 24. It

      will be flying a barrage of signal flags. That’ll

      be me, WAVEMAKER. After

      you pass red nun 24 and enter the mooring channel

      (Marked by new buoys) to

      the West and in to the mooring field, turn North

      to get back towards

      WAVEMAKER. I’ll answer any questions before you

      anchor, point out all the

      POI’s and provide liquid refreshment and idle

      conversation to anyone who

      cares to dally. I recommend anchoring and rafting

      north of my position. ALL

      ARE WELCOME for refreshment before dinner. If the

      flags are up I am afloat

      and aboard.

      IMPORTANT THINGS TO REMEMBER

      1. DON’T TURN WEST UNTIL NUN 24 and then

      into the new mooring

      channel marked by a green and a red marker.

      Otherwise you’ll be spending

      too much time with Sea Tow instead of us.

      2. Don’t go too close to the North end of

      the Harbor – less than 80

      yards or so – because the bottom gets shallow.

      3. Use plenty of scope. Itinerant captains

      have been known to

      successfully anchor in absentia for over a week or

      so, sans hurricanes.

      4. WE have active, unpleasant and

      unprofessional in my humble

      opinion, Marine Police. Last weekend they

      dispensed over 200 summonses

      during the Bastille Day fireworks. IF YOU DINGHY,

      FOLLOW THESE RULES OR YOU

      WILL GET A TICKET REQUIRING A PERSONAL APPEARANCE.

      Keep speed under 5 knots – all vessels all times –

      in 3 Mile Harbor

      Every person must have a PFD Type 1,2 or 3

      available, and kids under 15

      must have it ON incl. a dinghy. I suggest all

      occupants put one on so you

      won’t get stopped.

      If you dinghy at night, you must have a position

      light in addition to

      PFD’s. You can buy one at West Marine that works

      with two C batteries and

      has a suction cup for your outboard top.

      TRUST ME ON THIS. I have several citations to

      prove it.

      Remember, I am a lawyer, if you get cited, get in

      touch with me. They often

      screw it up.

      DON’T SAY A WORD or they will make your life

      miserable. I know of a case

      where after informing a boater he was getting a

      warning, when they asked for

      the names of all the officers involved, since they

      were so disrespectful and

      unpleasant, the officer changed the warning to a

      summons. They have nothing

      else to do in East Hampton except make life

      miserable for us tourists.

      WAVEMAKER

      —
      Bob Fine
      Fine Software LLC
      Your data on the web your way. No kidding


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    • #70352
      Anonymous

      A follow up after a weekend on the water.

      The mooring field entrance buoys have been removed. I assume they were there for Bastille Day only. You can turn WEST anytime after buoy 22, as Rodd had remarked earlier. Apologies for any confusion.

      The current forecast is for lovely weather.

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    • #70353
      Anonymous

      Robert

      I am not personally aware of the Suffolk County, East Hampton, or NY ECO marine police boarding yachts in East Hampton except in the obvious cases of reckless maneuvering, public drunkenness, or failure to respond. If they hail you for a good reason or not, pay attention. Normally if you are violating the rules on PDF’s or lights they will ask you to come alongside and then issue the summons or warning. If they ask for permission to come aboard without having stopped you for one of these items, something I have not heard of, then a boarding by the police (as opposed to the Coasties) is probably not warranted, so ask if they have a warrant. Unless you are willing to be inspected and cited, don’t give permission to board. That’s my opinion. I am not a criminal law expert but I think probable cause has been replaced by reasonable suspicion, as the basis legitimating a stop and search. If it were Block Island, I’d say, let the Harbor Master aboard any time. He and his entire crew love people and are interested in everybody being safe and having a good time. And they get tremendous pressure from the numbers of visitors over there. But all the marine police in East Hampton seem to have an attitude and it isn’t nice. I am not alone in this view, either. They need a course in CPR, courtesy, professionalism and respect. Like NYC instituted a few years ago. Again my opinion.

      To sum up I don’t think you have to worry about a boarding. Make sure your type four PDF’s are visible on a rail, your running lights work, stay sober, safe and follow the speed limit and they should leave you alone. OTOH, I believe the law is that the Coasties can come aboard any time they want. I have only seen one Coast Guard vessel outside three mile harbor once and they were repairing an aid to navigation.

      My point in calling attention to this is East Hampton is the ONLY place I have ever been, from New Brunswick to Los Roques in Venezuela, where the frequency and level of police oversight is both unusually high and unpleasant.

      But don’t let all this spoil all of us having a good time!

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