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June 10, 2011 at 12:33 pm #68352
RichCarterParticipantMy calendar says that we’re supposed to meet in four weeks, yet nobody seems to be taking charge of this affair. I don’t know the cruising area in RI so I’d rather not take control of this. Unless someone can take the helm here, I’ll start investigating other places. All we need is clear instructions on where and when to meet.
All of my favorite anchorages in the area have closed. All I can come up with are various mooring areas where we could rent moorings or perhaps a marina big enough to handle eight or ten boats.
Rich
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June 10, 2011 at 1:02 pm #77291
madsailor
ModeratorHi Rich,
I’m not sure what you mean by take charge, but the plan is to anchor to the
river from Point Judith harbor of refuge. Possibly in a circle. I can send
you with gps coordinates. Thatcher has more experience up there.plan is to anchor, maybe go into town for a meal or to scarf up some food
for a big lookout. Then leave on Sun or Mon as desired.Bob
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Jun 10, 2011 8:33 AM, wrote:My calendar says that we’re supposed to meet in four weeks, yet nobody
seems to be taking charge of this affair. I don’t know the cruising area in
RI so I’d rather not take control of this. Unless someone can take the helm
here, I’ll start investigating other places. All we need is clear
instructions on where and when to meet.All of my favorite anchorages in the area have closed. All I can come up
with are various mooring areas where we could rent moorings or perhaps a
marina big enough to handle eight or ten boats.Rich
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June 10, 2011 at 1:55 pm #77292
madsailor
ModeratorI HATE AUTOCORRECT! We’re to have a cookout, not a lookout. Proposed
coordinates are:041 24.5650 N by 071 30.0001 W or thereabouts.
Rich, if no one else chimes in, and it’s only you and I, I’ll also give it a
pass. We were looking at about 8 boats last time the discussion happened.Bob
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Robert Fine wrote:
Hi Rich,
I’m not sure what you mean by take charge, but the plan is to anchor to the
river from Point Judith harbor of refuge. Possibly in a circle. I can send
you with gps coordinates. Thatcher has more experience up there.plan is to anchor, maybe go into town for a meal or to scarf up some food
for a big lookout. Then leave on Sun or Mon as desired.Bob
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Jun 10, 2011 8:33 AM, wrote:My calendar says that we’re supposed to meet in four weeks, yet nobody
seems to be taking charge of this affair. I don’t know the cruising area in
RI so I’d rather not take control of this. Unless someone can take the helm
here, I’ll start investigating other places. All we need is clear
instructions on where and when to meet.All of my favorite anchorages in the area have closed. All I can come up
with are various mooring areas where we could rent moorings or perhaps a
marina big enough to handle eight or ten boats.Rich
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June 10, 2011 at 3:08 pm #77293
Anonymous
I can answer any questions. I am in Pasadena presently but will be home
Sunday AM. My boat is in the pond at Point Judith presently, going to a
mooring opposite Newport in Jamestown RI Monday or Tuesday.There seems to me to be two choices. One is, inside the breakwall. Depending
on weather can be smooth or rocky. The other is inside the pond, very quiet,
removed, between two little islands, where we would be alone. Careful
maneuvering into the spot due to depth is the only issue. It’s about two
miles North of the breachway, where the pond opens up to the Point Judith
Harbor inside the breakwall. North of Galilee and Jerusalem on a chart. West
side of the pond. Near Tucker’s Cove, I believe it is called.Wishing you all well.
Wavemaker
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June 10, 2011 at 6:58 pm #77296
RichCarterParticipantBob and Thatcher
I think we settled for July 8 and 9th. I’d like to know precisely where I’m headed. It sounds like the pond would be the best choice. Someone familiar with the anchorage should give some clear description of where we’ll meet, either lat/lon or some other clear description. If depth is an issue, some guidance on how to get safely in and out would be welcome. Information about a dinghy tieup and access to shore facilities would be helpful too.I have the whole month off so I may come down a day or two early. I hate to cruise to a schedule. Those who met a couple of years ago might remember the bad weather we had a couple of days before. I was forced to sail through some of it to get there in time because I had to leave later than I wished. I’ll likely leave Marblehead on the Tue Jul 5th. I should have no trouble getting there by Thursday.
Dinner out might be OK if we don’t get carried away and there’s a nice place convenient to the water. With a large group it can sometimes be difficult to arrange. Most restaurants are noisy and expensive but I’m flexible. The picnic area we had the last time was nice if something similar is available.
If those who are planning to come could please reply to the topic with boat name and number aboard we’d have a hull and head count.
Rich
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June 10, 2011 at 10:50 pm #77297
Jubilee
ParticipantIf I can trust my computer navigation software, it would appear that we’re supposed to meet at Wheatfield Cove, using the coordinates that are given. Sean and I look forward to meeting all you. We plan to arrive on Saturday the 9th.
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June 11, 2011 at 1:49 am #77298
madsailor
ModeratorI plan on arriving around Friday the 8th, maybe as late as Saturday the
9th. I don’t know anything about the area, but I believe if we all bring
something to share we can have an awesome cookout on board. Like last
time, we can raft (with more anchors this time), and the cove appears pretty
well protected.I don’t know about anything else but I have a cruising guide that might be
helpful. I know you can dinghy ashore and get fresh seafood. I don’t need
to go to a restaurant.So, load up on eats and let’s have a party!
Bob
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Jubilee wrote:
If I can trust my computer navigation software, it would appear that we’re
supposed to meet at Wheatfield Cove, using the coordinates that are given.
Sean and I look forward to meeting all you. We plan to arrive on Saturday
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June 11, 2011 at 2:39 am #77299
Anonymous
Like I said, on Sunday I will be back in NYC and will have all of the data
at my fingertips.
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June 13, 2011 at 4:40 pm #77333
RichCarterParticipantBob
That puts us between Ram Island and Horseshoe Pt if I read the online charts right, and this agrees with Thatcher’s description. Is this the agreed spot?
http://www.charts.noaa.gov/OnLineViewer/13219.shtmlI think we had about 6 boats confirm, but I wasn’t keeping track. Did anyone save the replies?
It looks thin getting in there. It looks like you’d have to go around Gardener’s Island and then wait for some tide before venturing to the anchorage.
Any advice from someone who’s been there before?I’d rather not take a chance on the seas behind the breakwater. From what I’ve heard, it can get pretty lumpy in there and I don’t want to wake up at 2AM and have to unraft.
Rich
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June 13, 2011 at 4:53 pm #77334
Anonymous
Its easy. Done it Many times. Pass both islands headed North and then turn East and then north.
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June 13, 2011 at 5:40 pm #77335
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NO
Behind Gardner and Beach Island. In the white stuff 7 feet deep.
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June 13, 2011 at 5:42 pm #77336
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Rich, one could never in our boats make it to the spot you picked near Ram
Island. There’s no channel there. It goes WEST.You go North, past Plato, Past Gardner’s, turn East, go in between Gardner’s
and Beach.
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June 13, 2011 at 6:25 pm #77338
madsailor
ModeratorJust to be sure, you’re talking about Wheatfield Cove, and not the anchorage
south of Gardener’s and Beach? Or are you talking farther north than
Wheatfield? Actually, if we make it into coordinates, there won’t be any
question. There’s a channel on the west side of the harbors that runs up to
these coves. From there, it’s just avoiding the thin stuff.Bob
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Thatcher A. Stone wrote:
Quote:Rich, one could never in our boats make it to the spot you picked near Ram
Island. There’s no channel there. It goes WEST.You go North, past Plato, Past Gardner’s, turn East, go in between
Gardner’s
and Beach.
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June 13, 2011 at 7:11 pm #77339
RichCarterParticipantOK, that looks straight-forward. How’s the boat-wake situation there? Will we be safe rafting?
Rich
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June 13, 2011 at 8:04 pm #77340
Anonymous
There won’t be anybody there.
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June 13, 2011 at 8:06 pm #77341
Anonymous
Please, read my last e mail with Rich’s chart blown up. Enter the channel
which is on the west side of the pond. Proceed North. Pass Plato Island and
Gardner’s Island, hang a right, turn into the tongue of the pond, 7 feet at
low tide, after Gardner’s and before Beach I. IT IS NOT WHEATFIELD COVE.
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June 13, 2011 at 8:44 pm #77343
madsailor
ModeratorOkey dokey. Got it.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Thatcher A. Stone wrote:
Quote:Please, read my last e mail with Rich’s chart blown up. Enter the channel
which is on the west side of the pond. Proceed North. Pass Plato Island
and
Gardner’s Island, hang a right, turn into the tongue of the pond, 7 feet
at
low tide, after Gardner’s and before Beach I. IT IS NOT WHEATFIELD COVE.
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June 13, 2011 at 9:42 pm #77345
Phil Fontaine
ParticipantI have been away for a few days and just now catching up with the correspondence concerning the planned rendezvous at Point Judith. I would like to confirm again that Aurora with Phil and Dolores Fontaine aboard plan to participate. My understanding of the time is the weekend of July 9 and we are planning to participate on Saturday and Sunday. However we could meet anyone who wishes to arrive a day or two earlier. Our boat lives on a mooring just a few yards off the Point Judith Yacht Club dock at the north end of the pond. We will have a car there and can transport anyone who might want to get to a market, liquor store or West Marine. I can be contacted on my cell phone at 401-440-7044.
I sent The following is a message to he list on March 23 in response to a request from Bob Fine that prospective attendees to reconfirm..
Still sounds good to me.
If everyone is agreeable to going up the pond I would suggest an anchorage
at 41º 24.74 N 71º 30.12 W.I think I can arrange for a cookout at the Point Judith Yacht Club but would
have to check and confirm. The club is located at
41º 25.69N 71º 29.72 W which is just a little over one NM from the
anchorage.From earlier correspondence I have the following skippers with boats:
Phil Fontaine
Rich Carter
Bob Fine
Rod Leeds
Thatcher Stone
Eric LorentzonI have the feeling that I may have missed one or two so I would appreciate
it if everyone would confirm and let me know an approximate head count on
each boat. I would like to have an approximate total before checking on the
club.Phil
From the recent correspondence I have concluded that everyone is agreeable to going into the pond. Navigation is quite straight forward if one follows the buoys. The channel was re-dredged as far as The Narrows about five years ago and should be no problem except at extreme low tides. The bottom is generally sand or mud. I would add one very important caution for anyone who wishes to go all the way to the north end. Be sure to stay on the west side of the channel, close to C 31 when turning north from The Narrows. There are unmarked rocks in the east part of the channel that are too shallow for a 424 at low water and the small boat docks on the eastern side do not provide a very good gauge of the width of the channel. Wait for any outgoing traffic to clear if necessary to attain the west half of the channel and you should see 12-15 feet of water.
I picked the location I recommended in order to get a large enough area of unobstructed deep water for us to raft comfortably. I rechecked my coordinates after Bob Fine commented about a 5′ hump and discovered a small error in the recommended latitude. So, I want to amend the coordinates to 41º 24.77 N , 71º 30.12 W which shows seven feet a bit north of the five foot spot.
Wheatfield Cove, a little bit south, is full of boats on moorings. There would be room at the outer part of the cove but I was concerned that someone might tangle with the shoal area northeast of Beach Island in trying to get there. Thatcher mentioned another anchorage just east of Plato Island and south of Gardner and Beach Islands which is also one of my favorites. Unfortunately, it is also a favorite hanging out spot for both transient and local boats and it is unlikely that we would have room to raft in that area.I received only one reply (Jubilee with Sean and Margaret Marston) concerning interest in a cook-out at Point Judith Yacht Club so I haven’t pursued it. But, I still can if most of the group is interested and I get an approximate head count (boat name and people’s names would be nice). That would have to be on Saturday night as Dolores and I must return home Sunday evening. Let me know soon. The club is small and we would be sharing it with members but in my opinion it would be ideal for a cook-out if they will have us. There is a covered raised deck with gas grills on the front of the club, overlooking the water and immediate access to kitchen facilities and bath rooms inside the club. The club holds regular Wednesday night cook-outs for members there. We would have to bring our food, set up and later put away tables and chairs and otherwise clean up as necessary when we are done.
Restaurant access by water around the pond is not easy. The shores of the pond are mostly private. The only restaurants I know of are located in Galilee and at the north end of the pond. While there are several reasonably priced seafood restaurants in Galilee (as well as one or two fish markets) I do not know if it is possible to get to them by dinghy. The docks are large ferry and commercial fishing docks. There may be a possibility of landing near a small boat launching ramp in the northeast corner of the harbor but I don’t know anything about dinghy tie up or security. The restaurant at the north end of the pond is next door to PJYC. It is rather small and I am not sure whether they could accommodate us comfortably. I would be happy to check if there is interest and I get an approximate head count. Let me know. Another possibility would be to dinghy to the north end of the pond and then shuttle people to a restaurant with my car, but, that isn’t too appealing. Dolores’ and my preference would be (1)cook-out at PJYC if they will have us, (2) Pot luck on the rafted boats, (3) Small restaurant on the water if they can accommodate us (4) Shuttle by dinghy and car to some other restaurant.
I had offered earlier to pick up anyone who might want to arrive by air at Providence Airport but didn’t get any replies. I can still make that offer but any takers would have to find their own return transportation as I will be returning home on Sunday evening. I can check on cab rates if anyone wishes. It is about a half hour by car to the airport.
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June 13, 2011 at 10:30 pm #77346
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Phil, excellent details. Thank you. Since I don’t have a GPS at home, I am
presuming your suggestion is closer to the PJYC and North of my suggestion?Geez, every time I have been there (between Beach and Gardner’s) in the last
three years it was empty, but you are the local man.I vote for the YC. Cook out at the club if they’ll abide us.
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June 13, 2011 at 10:33 pm #77347
madsailor
ModeratorI’m easy. See you there!
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Jun 13, 2011 6:30 PM, “Thatcher A. Stone” wrote:Phil, excellent details. Thank you. Since I don’t have a GPS at home, I am
presuming your suggestion is closer to the PJYC and North of mysuggestion?
Geez, every time I have been there (between Beach and Gardner’s) in the
last
Quote:three years it was empty, but you are the local man.I vote for the YC. Cook out at the club if they’ll abide us.
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June 14, 2011 at 12:04 am #77348
Phil Fontaine
ParticipantThanks Thatcher.
You are correct. My suggested location is a bit north of the location you
suggested. I would advise that everyone have the details of the pond shown
on NOAA chart 13219.How many people will you have on your boat?
Phil
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June 14, 2011 at 12:12 am #77349
Phil Fontaine
ParticipantThanks Bob,
How many people will there be on your boat?
Phil
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June 14, 2011 at 12:57 am #77350
madsailor
ModeratorRight now, Phil, one. With luck, two.
Bob
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Jun 13, 2011 8:12 PM, “Philippe Fontaine” wrote:Quote:Thanks Bob,
How many people will there be on your boat?
Phil
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June 14, 2011 at 7:20 pm #77353
RLeeds
ParticipantPhil and the group-
I have been waiting to confirm pending my crew’s plans. All is in order now
and we plan to attend! Looking forward to seeing the gang from last
rendezvous as well as some new boats and faces!On board Windseeker will be my wife Ilene, and my son Lawrence. We expect
to arrive on Friday, 8 July.See you all then.
Rodd Leeds
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