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    • #67005
      Hull152_Patrick
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      We removed the salon table and would be willing to part with it to a fellow P424 owner who plans to put it on their boat for the cost of shipping. I think that the shipping will be expensive its heavy. I’m not sure how unique these are but you can see the photos of it before, during, and after removal here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/26558453@N03/sets/72157605130413582/

      Everything popped right off except the bracket on the mast. I only had a screw driver with me and will need some power tools to get the bolts out of the mast. The whole things is in great shape and would be ready to install assuming our masts are the same. I would probably need to remove the laves from the main section prior to shipping.

      If no one on the list could use it I’ll try and sell it here in Seattle but I figured I’d see if anyone on the list could make use of it before resorting to that.

      Thanks,
      -p

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    • #69918
      madsailor
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      Just curious, what do you plan to use in its place? I hate my table, too…

      Bob

      On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 11:25 PM, Patrick Walters < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      We removed the salon table and would be willing to part with it to a fellow P424 owner who plans to put it on their boat for the cost of shipping. I think that the shipping will be expensive its heavy. I’m not sure how unique these are but you can see the photos of it before, during, and after removal here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/26558453@N03/sets/72157605130413582/

      Everything popped right off except the bracket on the mast. I only had a screw driver with me and will need some power tools to get the bolts out of the mast. The whole things is in great shape and would be ready to install assuming our masts are the same. I would probably need to remove the laves from the main section prior to shipping.

      If no one on the list could use it I’ll try and sell it here in Seattle but I figured I’d see if anyone on the list could make use of it before resorting to that.

      Thanks,
      -p

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    • #69919
      Paul Lefebvre
      Participant

      Hi Patrick:

      I am interested in the table, I will send you address in a PM and we can
      discuss further.

      However, I am curious what you plan to use in place of the table ( and what
      others are doing in this area). My boat came with a small table only, so one
      of the PO’s must have removed the original one. I assumed I would want an
      original style table installed, but the space issue is a good point. I know
      anytime I have been offshore, all meals have always been eaten in the
      cockpit and the table was never used. However, I have never spent a lot of
      time on-board in bad weather, where you may be eating inside. Do most tables
      hardly get used or just become the office table.

      Paul
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    • #69920
      Anonymous

      Paul,

      I cut the starboard wing of my salon table in half athwartship, something I’d seen on Robert & Dianna’s 424, Silver Girl. I then trimmed the cut edges with a slat of wood and installed quick-release drop-leaf hinges, which I found online. This way, each half of the table wing can be used (or not) independently. I keep the forward half open all the time in port, that being my “office” corner. I generally keep the after half of the leaf folded down, which opens up that entire starboard settee for casual use, and flip it up for dining or when I need more table area in the “office.”

      I like this arrangement so much I plan to do the same thing on the port side. It makes the table much easier to deal with, much less intrusive.

      Tor


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    • #69921
      Anonymous

      Hi Patrick –
      I dont need the Table – but I am missing the mast bracket for mine (go figure).
      Once you get the bracket off your mast I would be happy to take it off your hands.

      Thanks – Eric

      Patrick Walters <> wrote:

      We removed the salon table and would be willing to part with it to a fellow P424 owner who plans to put it on their boat for the cost of shipping. I think that the shipping will be expensive its heavy. I’m not sure how unique these are but you can see the photos of it before, during, and after removal here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/26558453@N03/sets/72157605130413582/

      Everything popped right off except the bracket on the mast. I only had a screw driver with me and will need some power tools to get the bolts out of the mast. The whole things is in great shape and would be ready to install assuming our masts are the same. I would probably need to remove the laves from the main section prior to shipping.

      If no one on the list could use it I’ll try and sell it here in Seattle but I figured I’d see if anyone on the list could make use of it before resorting to that.

      Thanks,
      -p

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      http://www.DeepPlaya.com

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    • #69922
      madsailor
      Moderator

      Hi Tor,

      Did you laminate your table or did it come that way?

      Bob

      On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 5:38 AM, Silver Heels < ([email][/email])> wrote:

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      I cut the starboard wing of my salon table in half athwartship, something I'd seen on Robert & Dianna's 424, Silver Girl. I then trimmed the cut edges with a slat of wood and installed quick-release drop-leaf hinges, which I found online. This way, each half of the table wing can be used (or not) independently. I keep the forward half open all the time in port, that being my “office” corner. I generally keep the after half of the leaf folded down, which opens up that entire starboard settee for casual use, and flip it up for dining or when I need more table area in the “office.”

      I like this arrangement so much I plan to do the same thing on the port side. It makes the table much easier to deal with, much less intrusive.

      Tor


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    • #69923
      Anonymous

      Hey Bob,

      Neither. I painted over the original mustard-colored Formica.

      Tor


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    • #69924
      Paul Lefebvre
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      Tor

      Thanks for the info on your table set-up.

      Bob – Why do you hate your table ( I assume it is the standard full one). Is
      it because even folded down, it is in the way. I assume standard position
      would be to have the starboard side always up. I take it that makes that
      settee difficult to use, unless you modify it the way Tor did. Is the port
      side folded down in the way at all.

      Paul


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    • #69926
      madsailor
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      Hi Paul,

      That's exactly it – I leave the starboard side up for eating and working and it's still too big – I've been trying to think of a different arrangement where the settee is split with a table in the middle or something like that. But mine is solid teak with no laminate. It weighs about 200 pounds and worse, the fiddles on the leaves are wrong – they're backwards allowing whatever's on the table to not only fall off the edge but be launched in a ballistic arc.

      Believe it or not, before I got my boat, the nav table didn't even have a fiddle at all!

      Bob

      On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Paul Lefebvre < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Tor

      Thanks for the info on your table set-up.

      Bob – Why do you hate your table ( I assume it is the standard full one). Is it because even folded down, it is in the way. I assume standard position would be to have the starboard side always up. I take it that makes that settee difficult to use, unless you modify it the way Tor did. Is the port side folded down in the way at all.

      Paul


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    • #69927
      Hull152_Patrick
      Spectator

      That is a pretty good setup as for what Dawn and I plan to do, we my do nothing, at home we don’t have a dining room table either. We mostly eat sitting on our chairs (we don’t have a couch either). The bowl is my favorite way to eat so it works out. The best setup we’ve seen is on Island Packets which have a fold-down table on the forward bulkhead. However the mast on the IP’s I’ve been on is forward of this bulkhead so they don’t’ have to contend with a fold out table trying to go around the mast. Still, it might be possible with come creative use of hinges.

      Another idea is that we could have a small post mounted table but more like a coffee table set off to one side which would divide one of the settees into two chairs.

      My gut says we won’t do anything to add a table. It would be good (necessary) to add some ceiling grab rails in the salon though so there is something to hang-onto when underway.

      -p

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    • #69928
      RichCarter
      Participant

      I’m somewhat puzzled by the table complaints. I find that it works great for us. The way we all use our boats is different I’m sure. We frequently have five or six for dinner. Anything smaller would’t work for us.

      Grab rails.
      Our boat came with a single grab-rail just aft the center deck hatch in the main cabin. I think this is stock, but maybe I added it. I’ve made so many mods to the interior that I can’t remember exactly what was original. There’s another pair just inside the aft companionway hatch, one port, the other starboard.

      The boat has a grab rail that runs all the way along the lower edge of the inside of the coach-roof. I’m pretty sure that this is standard. I’m about 6’2″, so putting something else that hangs down from the underside of the coach roof would be something for me to whack my head on.

      Nav station fiddles.
      The whole design of the standard outboard facing Nav station is poor. The seat positions the navigator with his/her forehead just inches from the breaker panel. Many of us have modified the table. You might want to cruise through the photo-gallery for ideas before adding fiddles. I made the table wider and moved the seat inboard about 6″.

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    • #69929
      Hull152_Patrick
      Spectator

      Our only complaint is that we can’t see devoting all that space to a table which we won’t use. I say that because on land, we don’t have a dining table, nor a big couch, nor much space either. 2 years ago we downsized from 1200sq ft to 650sq ft and we think less is more in terms of stuff especially within a small space.

      I’d just chalk it up to us being weird. 😉

      -p


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    • #69930
      Seawater
      Participant

      If it is not already taken, I am very interested. I have one of the early style tables, and always wanted one of the higher quality tables that Pearson produced later.

      I am away from email for the remainder of this week so please call me at six one seven, eight seven two, three three two four (I don’t know if there are war dialers for phone numbers found on the internet, but I don’t want to find out)

    • #69932
      Adam Silverstein
      Participant

      I’ll take it if seawater does not (blah, laminate table).-adam
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      On May 19, 2008, at 2:25 AM, Patrick Walters wrote:

      We removed the salon table and would be willing to part with it to a fellow P424 owner who plans to put it on their boat for the cost of shipping. I think that the shipping will be expensive its heavy. I’m not sure how unique these are but you can see the photos of it before, during, and after removal here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/26558453@N03/sets/72157605130413582/
       
      Everything popped right off except the bracket on the mast. I only had a screw driver with me and will need some power tools to get the bolts out of the mast. The whole things is in great shape and would be ready to install assuming our masts are the same. I would probably need to remove the laves from the main section prior to shipping.
       
      If no one on the list could use it I’ll try and sell it here in Seattle but I figured I’d see if anyone on the list could make use of it before resorting to that.
       
      Thanks,
      -p
       
      s/v Deep Playa – Pearson 424 #152
      http://www.DeepPlaya.com
       
       

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