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Hello all,
I know we just had a thread on spreader lights, but my issue is somewhat different and (I hope) simpler. I have the 4.5 inch sealed beam lights and they work just fine. I don’t worry about the power consumption because they simply aren’t on for long durations. So I don’t want to change lights.
My problem is that one of my sealed beams fell out of the housing and was dangling by it’s electrical wires. No corrosion at all, and the housing and bulb are in great shape. The other deck light bulb (the one that is still in place) appears to be held in it’s housing by a black retaining ring, apparently a ‘snap’ type fit. The bulb that was dangling is missing the black ring, and it’s not on deck anywhere. The problem occurred after a nice sail with 20-24 knots on the beam, so I expect the ring went over the side. Can anyone ‘illuminate’ me on how the bulb is retained in the housing, and how I might proceed to fix the problem/acquire another black retaining ring? Many thanks in advance…
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Dave
It sounds like you have the original spreader lights that I had on my boat. They were sealed beam units that were held in place with a stainless ring. They really are junk. Even if you don’t care about power consumption, consider changing them. The bulbs don’t last and the terminals on the back of them corrode over time and become intermittent. I tossed mine when I replaced them a few years back. I can’t keep everything. Someone else might be in the process of replacing theirs and would be willing to send the ring. Otherwise, I think you’re hosed.The LED spreader replacements are very expensive. There are a number of 12v LED floodlights on the market. The problem with most of them is that they swivel. The headsail can push against the spreaders on a tack and push the lamps from vertical unless there is some way to prevent swiveling. Here’s a link to a lamp that might work.
Rich
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Dave, is that you bidding on the link Rich gave of E-Bay? If so I put in a
bid of $50 and still didn’t meet the reserve. He has the same product
listed at Buy Now @ $60.99 OBO elsewhere on his site. I will more than
likely give them a try and paint them white.Thanks Rich!
Ken
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> wrote:Quote:Dave
It sounds like you have the original spreader lights that I had on my
boat. They were sealed beam units that were held in place with a stainless
ring. They really are junk. Even if you don’t care about power
consumption, consider changing them. The bulbs don’t last and the
terminals on the back of them corrode over time and become intermittent. I
tossed mine when I replaced them a few years back. I can’t keep
everything. Someone else might be in the process of replacing theirs and
would be willing to send the ring. Otherwise, I think you’re hosed.The LED spreader replacements are very expensive. There are a number of
12v LED floodlights on the market. The problem with most of them is that
they swivel. The headsail can push against the spreaders on a tack and
push the lamps from vertical unless there is some way to prevent swiveling.
Here’s a link to a lamp that might work.Rich
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Thanks for the reply Rich. The units on e-bay do look like a fine LED alternative to what I have. And no, Ken, that is not me bidding right now.
I did speak with the PO, who told me that my deck lights aren’t the original units, and that he replaced the spreader lights every 3-4 years since 1985, when he acquired the vessel. He advised simply acquiring a new assy from Wests or similar. Probably a good time to upgrade.
David
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I have a pair of marine LED floodlight fixtures that I bought about 3 years ago that I use as spreader lights. I think I paid about $65 ea for them, so $60/pr seems cheap. I don’t remember where I got mine. I did a search to see if I could find them but I didn’t see any that look like what I have. The link below looks a bit different than what I have but they should work if you can keep the things from swiveling. You might epoxy the side bracket in place or somehow use a different bracket that picks up more than just one screw. Just tightening the single side screw probably isn’t enough.
These lights are listed as 30W. Mine don’t even move the ammeter when they are on. 30W is about 2.5A. I assume that they throw the same light that a 30W bulb would provide. Mine provide enough light to help the deck crew at night. We race my boat on Thursday evenings. In the fall, it’s dark by the time the race ends. The crew needs to douse the spinnaker and mainsail at the end of the race. The spreader lamps work fine for that. They shine down and don’t provide much light to the bow or cockpit however. I don’t really want a light shining the cockit anyway but a bit more light on the foredeck would help. I’m considering replacing the steaming lamp with one that has a built-in deck lamp.
Rich
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Look on amazon for off road lights. 1/5th the cost and the exact same
lights, except black. I’ve already posted pictures of the results.Pardon the brevity. I’m typing this on my phone and I hate typing on my
phone.
On Nov 13, 2014 10:14 AM, “typhoontye via maillist”
wrote:Thanks for the reply Rich. The units on e-bay do look like a fine LED
alternative to what I have. And no, Ken, that is not me bidding right now.I did speak with the PO, who told me that my deck lights aren’t the
original units, and that he replaced the spreader lights every 3-4 years
since 1985, when he acquired the vessel. He advised simply acquiring a new
assy from Wests or similar. Probably a good time to upgrade.David
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