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Alan and other fresh water sailors who went to salt,
Did you replace your standing rigging before going? Doe’s standing
rigging looks great but it’s 29 yrs old. Fresh water is very kind to a
boat. We are worried that the moment it sees salt it will all die but
then I don’t want to switch it out – if it really isn’t necessary.
There are other things I could spend money on.Opinions? ( I know there is no shortage of these out there)
thanks
– pat
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I’ve been to a lot of rigger talks and they all talk about a 10-15 year life
of stainless steel rigging. 10 in So California and 15 in the Pac NW (rain
and low UV is good).Do you have $4500 dollars you can afford to spend?
Will it make you sleep better at night (or sea)?That’s how I’d think about it.
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 2:36 PM, pat noordsij <> wrote:
Alan and other fresh water sailors who went to salt,
Did you replace your standing rigging before going? Doe’s standing rigging
looks great but it’s 29 yrs old. Fresh water is very kind to a boat. We
are worried that the moment it sees salt it will all die but then I don’t
want to switch it out – if it really isn’t necessary. There are other
things I could spend money on.Opinions? ( I know there is no shortage of these out there)
thanks
– pat
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Pat,
Just like you don’t want to be forced to repower, you don’t want to be
forced to re-rig. You might be able to sail with the original rig, but you
might not. I chose to not replace the rigging before and during my cruise
to Europe and back. I had the rig surveyed before each trans-atlantic
trip. The riggers could find no problems, but both strongly recommended i
replace the standing rigging. I ignored their advice and got away with it.
When i returned to the states I was anchored out with friends when the
discussion of rigging came up and i mentioned that my rigging was the
original 30 year old. So we walked around the deck and found this:
http://www.svsarah.com/Sarah/Images/Shroud%201.JPG
Several strands of the lower shround had broken at the swage fitting. This
probably happened while we were sailing back to the states, but I never
noticed it.
I’d always rather be lucky than good, but I don’t want to count on being
lucky. 30 years is a lot of time for rigging and things can go bad
quickly. Sarah spent most of her life on the Chesapeake which is not as
salty as the ocean and the climate is moderate, so i don’t believe you are
that far ahead by being in fresh water.
The question is, “Do you feel lucky?”On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Patrick “Peaboy” Walters <
> wrote:I’ve been to a lot of rigger talks and they all talk about a 10-15 year
life
of stainless steel rigging. 10 in So California and 15 in the Pac NW (rain
and low UV is good).Do you have $4500 dollars you can afford to spend?
Will it make you sleep better at night (or sea)?That’s how I’d think about it.
-p—
s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 2:36 PM, pat noordsij <> wrote:
Alan and other fresh water sailors who went to salt,
Did you replace your standing rigging before going? Doe’s standing
rigging
looks great but it’s 29 yrs old. Fresh water is very kind to a boat. We
are worried that the moment it sees salt it will all die but then I don’t
want to switch it out – if it really isn’t necessary. There are other
things I could spend money on.Opinions? ( I know there is no shortage of these out there)
thanks
– pat
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John Stevenson
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When I purchased UNABATED 7 years ago it was a salt water boat having spent many years sailing around the Caribbean. The PO had replaced the rigging in 2000 (according to the sales listing anyhow). It does not take long for salt to make things appear older than what it really is. In the 7 years I have had the boat, it was in fresh water (Lake Ontario). I spent much time and money making it look good again. Bristol as they say.
It didn’t take long in Salt water again to see all my good work disappear. By the time I reached Bermuda, all I could say was….. “this boat will never look the same again” as I scraped off crusts of salt from 5 days as sea and a month traveling down the East Coast, only to find rust stains every where. Somehow during the next 10 months I resisted the urge to get the toothbrush out and start cleaning…. but I finally relented…..and got to work…… just have to keep it up…..
alan
PS when you pass Sodus Bay on your way out of the Great Lakes, CALL ME.— On Thu, 8/26/10, John Stevenson <> wrote:
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There is really no reason to think that a rigger or surveyor would not tell you to replace rigging that has been on the boat for a couple decades. If he says everything is fine, he is on the risk, but makes no money. They will always choose to be conservative and profitable.
Stainless steel is unpredictable. Given the right conditions, stress corrosion cracking failure can occur at what seem to be the strongest parts of the rig. If you have the time, pull the chainplates and mast tangs, esp. the lowers, polish them with Mother’s mag wheel polish, and look at them carefully for the spiderweb like cracks. If you see any, replace all similar hardware. If any swages look suspicious, but the wire looks good, you could cut them off and install Stayloc fittings, esp. on the lower ends. Add toggles to make up the length.
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