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    • #72062
      Tor
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      I’ve just had a staysail mast hound made. Thought I’d share the triumph. It’s probably stronger than
      necessary, but I can live with that. A machine shop a block away from where I’m berthed fabricated it, using a
      1/4″ x 2″ piece of flat bar I brought him, shaping, drilling and machining/adding the nose piece from his own
      stock, all for an amazing $70 price tag! It’s not yacht finish because I didn’t care about that. I even asked
      him to not grind down the heavy welds for cosmetic purposes, preferring to retain their full strength. By
      comparison, former Metal Mast fabricator, Richard Conti, will make a beautifully finished (if less beefy)
      hound for a $475.

      A photo of each is attached. You’ll have no trouble identifying which is which.

      Tor
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    • #67404
      Hull152_Patrick
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      Do you plan to polish the fitting yourself? The reason I ask is that I thought (and I could be wrong) that the reason to polish stainless steel was to remove as many imperfections as possible to prevent surface corrosion and pitting.

      Now at $70 you could buy one of these every two years so I guess its less of an issue, but I’m curious what you all think about the polishing and corrosion. I think I learned that at the Brion Toss rigging class I took, but I’m not feeling very vague on that.

      Thanks,
      -p


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      Thanks Dawn and Patrick!

    • #72060
      madsailor
      Moderator

      Stainless, or more properly, corrosion resistant steel works by oxidizing the chromium in the steel at the surface.  Polishing, in many cases, removes the oxide and actually allows a faster corrosion.  A better process is what is called 'passivating' that uses a paste with nitric acid in it to actually remove the iron oxides and present a clean chrome surface to oxidize instead.  Chrome has an extremely tenacious oxide, like aluminum only shiner.

      Bob

      On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Patrick Walters < ([email][/email])> wrote:

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      Do you plan to polish the fitting yourself? The reason I ask is that I thought (and I could be wrong) that the reason to polish stainless steel was to remove as many imperfections as possible to prevent surface corrosion and pitting.

      Now at $70 you could buy one of these every two years so I guess its less of an issue, but I'm curious what you all think about the polishing and corrosion. I think I learned that at the Brion Toss rigging class I took, but I'm not feeling very vague on that.

      Thanks,
      -p


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    • #72061
      Hull152_Patrick
      Spectator

      OK, never mind….. they don’t’ seem to care about the polish.
      http://briontoss.com/spartalk/showthread.php?t=79&highlight=stainless+polish

      But here’s how you can do it if you want to:
      http://briontoss.com/spartalk/showthread.php?t=545&highlight=stainless+polish

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    • #72064
      Tor
      Participant

      Well, all that is too advanced for this country boy. I do not plan to polish or otherwise fuss with this piece. Its sheer thickness, not to mention the fact that it’ll live 27′ above the coachhouse, leaves me believing it’ll outlive all of us. And I’m going to live until 2073. After that it’s the next owner’s problem.

      I have added a 1/8″ sheathing of a Teflon-like plastic as a barrier between the inside of the stainless steel hound strap and the surface of the aluminum mast, to avoid any kind of electrolysis there.

      Tor
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    • #72066
      RichCarter
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      Tor
      If you chose to polish the item, send it out for electroplating. I fabricated a nice backstay chainplate and spent a couple of hours polishing it. It came out great, but tarnishes. I later learned that electropolishing takes out surface contamination. I had the same thing happen to stainless davits I made, but I just painted them over. It would have been easier if I skipped the polishing process and went right to paint.

      Rich


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    • #72067
      RichCarter
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      Pat
      From my experience, this isn’t enough. I think you still need to electropolish the item.
      Rich


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