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Hi All,
Of course, I know this is essentially “religion”, but I’d love to get some thoughts about YOUR stern anchor sizing for the P424.I just got a Fortress FX-23 (large, but only 15lbs). I dig the weight, but feel like it’s HUGE. Could be too big and cumbersome. Perhaps an FX-16 would have been sufficient. They say the FX-23 is for 39 – 45′ boats, but I’m sure they are talking about primary/bow anchors. Am I just being hopeful about using a smaller anchor for my stern? Definitely don’t want to go too small, but uncertain. The stern hooking I’ll do is mostly in protected anchorages where the aim is to avoid swinging in tight quarters. However, there may be times when changing currents or winds put real pressure on the stern hook.
I don’t really want to discuss “what I should ‘really’ do”… I’d like to know what are you using?
Thank you, Paul
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The 23 is my stern anchor, and spare bow anchor (after I lose the secondary
CQR).Bob
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 9:17 PM, pma_foyl wrote:
Hi All,
Of course, I know this is essentially “religion”, but I’d love to get some
thoughts about YOUR stern anchor sizing for the P424.I just got a Fortress FX-23 (large, but only 15lbs). I dig the weight, but
feel like it’s HUGE. Could be too big and cumbersome. Perhaps an FX-16
would have been sufficient. They say the FX-23 is for 39 – 45′ boats, but
I’m sure they are talking about primary/bow anchors. Am I just being
hopeful about using a smaller anchor for my stern? Definitely don’t want to
go too small, but uncertain. The stern hooking I’ll do is mostly in
protected anchorages where the aim is to avoid swinging in tight quarters.
However, there may be times when changing currents or winds put real
pressure on the stern hook.I don’t really want to discuss “what I should ‘really’ do”… I’d like to
know what are you using?Thank you, Paul
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Paul,
I have a 20 something lb danforth back there but would only use it as you
say you would. In all my past years anchoring exclusively (not with the
424) I used a stern anchor maybe 3 times.Ken
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 9:17 PM, pma_foyl wrote:
Hi All,
Of course, I know this is essentially “religion”, but I’d love to get some
thoughts about YOUR stern anchor sizing for the P424.I just got a Fortress FX-23 (large, but only 15lbs). I dig the weight, but
feel like it’s HUGE. Could be too big and cumbersome. Perhaps an FX-16
would have been sufficient. They say the FX-23 is for 39 – 45′ boats, but
I’m sure they are talking about primary/bow anchors. Am I just being
hopeful about using a smaller anchor for my stern? Definitely don’t want to
go too small, but uncertain. The stern hooking I’ll do is mostly in
protected anchorages where the aim is to avoid swinging in tight quarters.
However, there may be times when changing currents or winds put real
pressure on the stern hook.I don’t really want to discuss “what I should ‘really’ do”… I’d like to
know what are you using?Thank you, Paul
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Ditto what Ken said – a 22-lb Danforth used maybe 3
times. However, if you ever decide to cruise in the
Mediterranean you’ll want something more substantial
for the bow-to docking that is common there.Tor
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Thanks guys. I know that many have not found great need of a stern hook. In my neighborhood, I’ll use it every time I drop the hook (Channel Islands have small anchorages; it’s just the way things are done in this locale).
On Thursday, February 27, 2014 3:19 AM, Silverheels wrote:
Ditto what Ken said – a 22-lb Danforth used maybe 3
times. However, if you ever decide to cruise in the
Mediterranean you’ll want something more substantial
for the bow-to docking that is common there.Tor
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I sometimes use a second bow anchor for the same
reason. In fact, I’m on two hooks as I write this, to
keep the boat out of the adjacent channel when the wind
shifts.Tor
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Thanks Bob. so you have an FX-23; that’s good to know. Do you have it mounted on the stern rail or stowed, when not in use. It’s a nice hook, but HUGE.
Anyone else using Fortress anchor? It’s lighter than the Danforth steel equivalents, so unsure about actual size. I guess, I’m wondering if the FX-16 would suffice (stern only, of course).
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 6:29 PM, Robert Fine wrote:
The 23 is my stern anchor, and spare bow anchor (after I lose the secondary
CQR).Bob
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 9:17 PM, pma_foyl wrote:
Hi All,
Of course, I know this is essentially “religion”, but I’d love to get some
thoughts about YOUR stern anchor sizing for the P424.I just got a Fortress FX-23 (large, but only 15lbs). I dig the weight, but
feel like it’s HUGE. Could be too big and cumbersome. Perhaps an FX-16
would have been sufficient. They say the FX-23 is for 39 – 45′ boats, but
I’m sure they are talking about primary/bow anchors. Am I just being
hopeful about using a smaller anchor for my stern? Definitely don’t want to
go too small, but uncertain. The stern hooking I’ll do is mostly in
protected anchorages where the aim is to avoid swinging in tight quarters.
However, there may be times when changing currents or winds put real
pressure on the stern hook.I don’t really want to discuss “what I should ‘really’ do”… I’d like to
know what are you using?Thank you, Paul
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I have a 22lb danforth for my stern anchor. I’m not sure that the fortress has any advantage over steel here so I didn’t bother with the extra cost. It’s on about 150′ of 5/8 nylon and about 12′ of 3/8 chain. The chain is heavy so saving a couple of pounds on the anchor makes little sense. I rarely use this, no windlass back there. It’s stowed below in one of the three black-hole lazarettes. Since it’s rarely used, it’s on the bottom.
I have an FX55 for my storm anchor (or is it an FX85? I’ll have to look. I think it’s a 55). Here I paid the extra cost of the fortress because it disassembles. Otherwise I’d never get it stowed. It’s on 150′ of 3/4 nylon with 50′ of 1/2″ chain. I’ve used it a few times but so far I’ve always hooked it to the bow chain in place of my regular hook. When set, this can be a monster to retrieve. I have to run over it with serious power to break it out. It usually brings a yard of muck back with it.
The 22lb danforth is more than adequate for most conditions if it sets properly. I won’t get into a religious discussion about anchoring here. Most everyone knows what I mean by setting properly.
Rich
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Hi Paul,
We also use an FX-23 off the stern, not very often, but its also big
enough to sub for the delta on the bow or in conjunction with it if
necessary. We hang ours from the stern rail, but our rail is not the
Pearson standard as we moved it outboard to the hull deck joint several
years ago. The nicest thing about it is only carrying 15 lbs. stern to
bow when needed.Dave and Pat
On 2/27/14, 8:22 AM, Paul Audi wrote:
Thanks Bob. so you have an FX-23; that’s good to know. Do you have it mounted on the stern rail or stowed, when not in use. It’s a nice hook, but HUGE.
Anyone else using Fortress anchor? It’s lighter than the Danforth steel equivalents, so unsure about actual size. I guess, I’m wondering if the FX-16 would suffice (stern only, of course).
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 6:29 PM, Robert Fine wrote:
The 23 is my stern anchor, and spare bow anchor (after I lose the secondary
CQR).Bob
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 9:17 PM, pma_foyl wrote:
Hi All,
Of course, I know this is essentially “religion”, but I’d love to get some
thoughts about YOUR stern anchor sizing for the P424.I just got a Fortress FX-23 (large, but only 15lbs). I dig the weight, but
feel like it’s HUGE. Could be too big and cumbersome. Perhaps an FX-16
would have been sufficient. They say the FX-23 is for 39 – 45′ boats, but
I’m sure they are talking about primary/bow anchors. Am I just being
hopeful about using a smaller anchor for my stern? Definitely don’t want to
go too small, but uncertain. The stern hooking I’ll do is mostly in
protected anchorages where the aim is to avoid swinging in tight quarters.
However, there may be times when changing currents or winds put real
pressure on the stern hook.I don’t really want to discuss “what I should ‘really’ do”… I’d like to
know what are you using?Thank you, Paul
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Thank Rich,
I appreciate the insight. I think what I’ve not asked clearly enough is this: would a smaller Fortress suffice. The 22lb danforth is MUCH smaller than the 15lb fortress. The 10lb Fortress is about the same size as the 22lb danforth. Of course, weight is a good thing for an anchor, but in the case of the fluke style anchors, one might say that the size is more critical.
Best, P
On Thursday, February 27, 2014 6:48 AM, “” wrote:
I have a 22lb danforth for my stern anchor. I’m not sure that the fortress has any advantage over steel here so I didn’t bother with the extra cost. It’s on about 150′ of 5/8 nylon and about 12′ of 3/8 chain. The chain is heavy so saving a couple of pounds on the anchor makes little sense. I rarely use this, no windlass back there. It’s stowed below in one of the three black-hole lazarettes. Since it’s rarely used, it’s on the bottom.
I have an FX55 for my storm anchor (or is it an FX85? I’ll have to look. I think it’s a 55). Here I paid the extra cost of the fortress because it disassembles. Otherwise I’d never get it stowed. It’s on 150′ of 3/4 nylon with 50′ of 1/2″ chain. I’ve used it a few times but so far I’ve always hooked it to the bow chain in place of my regular hook. When set, this can be a monster to retrieve. I have to run over it with serious power to break it out. It usually brings a yard of muck back with it.
The 22lb danforth is more than adequate for most conditions if it sets properly. I won’t get into a religious discussion about anchoring here. Most everyone knows what I mean by setting properly.
Rich
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