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I don't remember a discussion of this subject in the past so while I'm watching Sarah sail back and forth at anchor in 20 – 25 kts of wind I thought I would bring it up.
I don't use my mizzen as a riding sail – primarily because it is so blown out I think it would increase the sailing at anchor, even when reefed. I'll probably replace this sail sometime this year, after I get back to the states. I will likely opt for another fully battened sail and a single deep reef point. At that point I will likely start experimenting with it as a riding sail.
Anyone had success using the mizzen sail in the manner, and if so how is your sail configured? Anyone tried this and found it ineffective or counter productive?
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John Stevenson
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John,
I have not sailed/anchored my 424 enough yet to speak first hand about this particular design, but I have owned several split-rig cruising sailboats in the past. In my experience, ketches and yawls in general can often benefit by flying the mizzen sail at anchor, sheeted in tightly, to keep the boat’s head to the wind. I can’t imagine the Pearson 424 would act all that differently.
Perhaps one reason a lot of sailors don’t make maximum use of their mizzen sails is because they don’t really know how to use them. Some years ago I wrote an article on this subject that appeared in a couple of magazines. It’s online at http://www.tor.cc/articles/mizzen.htm . I doubt whether it will tell anyone in this group anything they don’t already know, but it does list the reasons I bought another ketch-rigged boat, the ready riding sail among them.
Tor
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Great article Tor. Thanks for sharing.
Pete
Silver Heels wrote:
Quote:John,I have not sailed/anchored my 424 enough yet to speak first hand
about this particular design, but I have owned several split-rig
cruising sailboats in the past. In my experience, ketches and yawls in
general can often benefit by flying the mizzen sail at anchor, sheeted
in tightly, to keep the boat’s head to the wind. I can’t imagine the
Pearson 424 would act all that differently.Perhaps one reason a lot of sailors don’t make maximum use of their
mizzen sails is because they don’t really know how to use them. Some
years ago I wrote an article on this subject that appeared in a couple
of magazines. It’s online at http://www.tor.cc/articles/mizzen.htm
<http://www.tor.cc/articles/mizzen.htm> . I doubt whether it will tell
anyone in this group anything they don’t already know, but it does
list the reasons I bought another ketch-rigged boat, the ready riding
sail among them.Tor
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Tor, this is saying what I have sometimes intuitively felt about the mizzen. I agree, good article. Thanks for the pointer.
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Yes, thanks Tor. Good info.
I guess I may just try the reefed mizzen the next time it's blowing in the anchorage.
John
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Thatcher Stone < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Quote:Tor, this is saying what I have sometimes intuitively felt about the mizzen. I agree, good article. Thanks for the pointer.<.. snip>
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Hi Tor,
Great article! I specifically looked for a ketch on my search for Pelican – easily single handed rig, well balanced, flexible sail plan, and most of all a place to hang the bathing suit (mizzen winches) where it won't blow overboard!
Bob
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Silver Heels < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Quote:John,I have not sailed/anchored my 424 enough yet to speak first hand about this particular design, but I have owned several split-rig cruising sailboats in the past. In my experience, ketches and yawls in general can often benefit by flying the mizzen sail at anchor, sheeted in tightly, to keep the boat's head to the wind. I can't imagine the Pearson 424 would act all that differently.
Perhaps one reason a lot of sailors don't make maximum use of their mizzen sails is because they don't really know how to use them. Some years ago I wrote an article on this subject that appeared in a couple of magazines. It's online at http://www.tor.cc/articles/mizzen.htm . I doubt whether it will tell anyone in this group anything they don't already know, but it does list the reasons I bought another ketch-rigged boat, the ready riding sail among them.
Tor
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I have used the Mizzen as a riding sail several times….
One particular time that I recall was that we were anchored in 40ft with all our rode out, quite a fetch of water and all sails put away for the night. The wind had increased to 20 knots after we had turned in. I did not have the mizzen rigged and the boat was sailing about her anchor. At times the boat was beem to the waves, making it impossible to sleep with the rocking.
After a hour of this, I decided to set the mizzen. I hosted the mizzen and sheeted it very flat. The boat stopped sailing around and the motion became much more comfortable and I was able to get a good night’s sleep. There wasn’t much noise (much less than than the banging about when the boat was rocking).
Now, whenever at anchor and the wind is up, I set my mizzen, though I haven’t used the mizzen while on a mooring.
John
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