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    • #67979
      james bartch
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      Aloha to All

      My w-58 is still heating up even after i have checked the obvious, any suggestions on what else i can check before i call in the machanic? new impeller, changed the thermostat, cleared the lines and looked for impeller pieces, have water flow out the discharge, cleaned the raw water strainer,
      checked the heat exchanger as best i know how, checked the oil cooler-heat exchanger and have no obvious external leaking.

      I can strart the engine run it for about 30 imnutes or so, under a load and then it starts to creep over 180 and i shut it down as it nears 200 +/-

      any thing else that i can check? the engine runs smooth and does not appear to have any coolant or oil coming out of the discharge, the oil is clear in the engine, trans and v drive… coolant is clean.

      please help!

      the engine is supposed to be a 1995 series w58, but not sure of that, survey indicates so with serial numbers.
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    • #75190
      Hull152_Patrick
      Spectator

      When you checked the heat exchanger did you pull the end cap and look into
      it? When I took my boat for it’s first test sail we overheated about 100yds
      outside the breakwater. Heat Exchanger was gummed up.

      -p


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      On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:01 PM, james bartch <

      wrote:

      Aloha to All

      My w-58 is still heating up even after i have checked the obvious, any
      suggestions on what else i can check before i call in the machanic? new
      impeller, changed the thermostat, cleared the lines and looked for impeller
      pieces, have water flow out the discharge, cleaned the raw water strainer,
      checked the heat exchanger as best i know how, checked the oil cooler-heat
      exchanger and have no obvious external leaking.

      I can strart the engine run it for about 30 imnutes or so, under a load and
      then it starts to creep over 180 and i shut it down as it nears 200 +/-

      any thing else that i can check? the engine runs smooth and does not appear
      to have any coolant or oil coming out of the discharge, the oil is clear in
      the engine, trans and v drive… coolant is clean.

      please help!

      the engine is supposed to be a 1995 series w58, but not sure of that,
      survey indicates so with serial numbers.

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      Thanks Dawn and Patrick!

    • #75192
      john stevenson
      Participant

      Also check the hoses to the hot water heater (assuming you heat water with
      the engine). Unless you have a diverter valve to control the flow to the
      water heater (my W60 did not), an air lock in these hose can restrict or
      shut down the water flow through the heat exchanger. Whenever I drained the
      coolant on my W60 I used to pour coolant into one of the disconnected heater
      hoses untill it flowed solidly out of the other, then reattached the hoses
      to the engine.

      On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 2:15 AM, Patrick “Peaboy” Walters <
      > wrote:

      When you checked the heat exchanger did you pull the end cap and look into
      it? When I took my boat for it’s first test sail we overheated about 100yds
      outside the breakwater. Heat Exchanger was gummed up.

      -p


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      On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:01 PM, james bartch <

      wrote:

      Aloha to All

      My w-58 is still heating up even after i have checked the obvious, any
      suggestions on what else i can check before i call in the machanic? new
      impeller, changed the thermostat, cleared the lines and looked for

      impeller

      pieces, have water flow out the discharge, cleaned the raw water

      strainer,

      checked the heat exchanger as best i know how, checked the oil

      cooler-heat

      exchanger and have no obvious external leaking.

      I can strart the engine run it for about 30 imnutes or so, under a load

      and

      then it starts to creep over 180 and i shut it down as it nears 200 +/-

      any thing else that i can check? the engine runs smooth and does not

      appear

      to have any coolant or oil coming out of the discharge, the oil is clear

      in

      the engine, trans and v drive… coolant is clean.

      please help!

      the engine is supposed to be a 1995 series w58, but not sure of that,
      survey indicates so with serial numbers.

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      John Stevenson
      http://www.svsarah.com
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    • #75193
      Anonymous

      If water is flowing freeling through your exhaust outlet, and you have plenty of coolant in the fresh water circuit, then I would also be stumped..perhaps the heat sensor in your gauge is faulty?

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    • #75194
      Adam Silverstein
      Participant

      1. Heat exchanger may want an acid bath to cleanse it of chunks and
      residue; visual inspection is not necessarily reliable. 1:5 muriatic
      acid in a spackle bucket works ok. New paint afterward makes you feel
      special.
      2. In addition to h2o heater, a cabin heater, if you have one, may
      also vapor lock coolant on w60 (discovered to my surprise and chagrin)
      3. Perhaps you can test broken guage theory with autozone el cheapo
      digital thermometer (as opposed to using the seized engine method).

      Adam Silverstein, iPhone

      On Apr 27, 2010, at 2:01 AM, “james bartch” <

      wrote:

      Aloha to All

      My w-58 is still heating up even after i have checked the obvious,
      any suggestions on what else i can check before i call in the
      machanic? new impeller, changed the thermostat, cleared the lines
      and looked for impeller pieces, have water flow out the discharge,
      cleaned the raw water strainer,
      checked the heat exchanger as best i know how, checked the oil
      cooler-heat exchanger and have no obvious external leaking.

      I can strart the engine run it for about 30 imnutes or so, under a
      load and then it starts to creep over 180 and i shut it down as it
      nears 200 +/-

      any thing else that i can check? the engine runs smooth and does not
      appear to have any coolant or oil coming out of the discharge, the
      oil is clear in the engine, trans and v drive… coolant is clean.

      please help!

      the engine is supposed to be a 1995 series w58, but not sure of
      that, survey indicates so with serial numbers.

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    • #75195
      unabated
      Participant

      With all the work you have done and the hoses that have been off, I’ll vote for the air bubble in the system, vapor lock theroy…. it’s happened to me.
      I have a surge tank that is mounted high and above the system that is located in the port sail locker. When i redid my hoses, I did have a bubble still in there… need to burb it.
      a

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    • #75196
      Anonymous

      A stuck thermostat?

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    • #75198
      petedd
      Participant

      Have you checked the temperature using an infrared thermometer at the
      thermostat elbow? Don’t discount a problem with your temperature gauge
      or sender. Always use an infrared thermometer to check the real status
      if you have a problem.

      On 4/27/2010 12:01 AM, james bartch wrote:

      Aloha to All

      My w-58 is still heating up even after i have checked the obvious, any suggestions on what else i can check before i call in the machanic? new impeller, changed the thermostat, cleared the lines and looked for impeller pieces, have water flow out the discharge, cleaned the raw water strainer,
      checked the heat exchanger as best i know how, checked the oil cooler-heat exchanger and have no obvious external leaking.

      I can strart the engine run it for about 30 imnutes or so, under a load and then it starts to creep over 180 and i shut it down as it nears 200 +/-

      any thing else that i can check? the engine runs smooth and does not appear to have any coolant or oil coming out of the discharge, the oil is clear in the engine, trans and v drive… coolant is clean.

      please help!

      the engine is supposed to be a 1995 series w58, but not sure of that, survey indicates so with serial numbers.

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    • #75201
      petedd
      Participant

      Good suggestion John. What would have changed to create the air lock?
      My wife teaches a course in problem solving, the same technique they use
      a NASA, and the first question is always “what has changed?” That
      usually gives a clue to the root problem.

      Pete

      On 4/27/2010 6:06 AM, John Stevenson wrote:

      Also check the hoses to the hot water heater (assuming you heat water with
      the engine). Unless you have a diverter valve to control the flow to the
      water heater (my W60 did not), an air lock in these hose can restrict or
      shut down the water flow through the heat exchanger. Whenever I drained the
      coolant on my W60 I used to pour coolant into one of the disconnected heater
      hoses untill it flowed solidly out of the other, then reattached the hoses
      to the engine.

      On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 2:15 AM, Patrick “Peaboy” Walters<
      > wrote:

      When you checked the heat exchanger did you pull the end cap and look into
      it? When I took my boat for it’s first test sail we overheated about 100yds
      outside the breakwater. Heat Exchanger was gummed up.

      -p


      s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.com

      On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:01 PM, james bartch<

      wrote:

      Aloha to All

      My w-58 is still heating up even after i have checked the obvious, any
      suggestions on what else i can check before i call in the machanic? new
      impeller, changed the thermostat, cleared the lines and looked for

      impeller

      pieces, have water flow out the discharge, cleaned the raw water

      strainer,

      checked the heat exchanger as best i know how, checked the oil

      cooler-heat

      exchanger and have no obvious external leaking.

      I can strart the engine run it for about 30 imnutes or so, under a load

      and

      then it starts to creep over 180 and i shut it down as it nears 200 +/-

      any thing else that i can check? the engine runs smooth and does not

      appear

      to have any coolant or oil coming out of the discharge, the oil is clear

      in

      the engine, trans and v drive… coolant is clean.

      please help!

      the engine is supposed to be a 1995 series w58, but not sure of that,
      survey indicates so with serial numbers.

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    • #75202
      petedd
      Participant

      How do you “burb” (burp) it? (I can’t put it over my shoulder and pat
      its back). No, seriously, what is the procedure for burping the air out?

      On 4/27/2010 7:33 AM, Alan wrote:

      Quote:
      With all the work you have done and the hoses that have been off, I’ll vote for the air bubble in the system, vapor lock theroy…. it’s happened to me.
      I have a surge tank that is mounted high and above the system that is located in the port sail locker. When i redid my hoses, I did have a bubble still in there… need to burb it.
      a

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    • #75204
      unabated
      Participant

      On my W58, the coolant tank  that is ON the engine (as opposed to the surge tank in the cockpit) as a bleeder valve. After I have done anything to the coolant system, I always open that up and remove any trapped air. Also, as john  has suggusted, to check the coolant lines going to the H2O heater. 

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    • #75206
      kalinowski
      Participant

      Can the heat exchanger be cleaned out by a radiator shop? Less muss and fuss down below if possible.

      Dan Kalinowski
      Lady Leanne II (#135)
      Honolulu

    • #75209
      Anonymous

      Have you checked your raw water filter. Mine was clogged causing limited flow. Replaced it and viola, a cool running engine.

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    • #75211
      unabated
      Participant

      Yes, Take it to a radiator shop and have them “boil” it.
      alan

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