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I have a leak coming from the portside water tank, I believe. It is dripping on the portside under the floor boards near the mast. I am trying to get to the tank on that side but it looks like I might not be able to get to easily. Anyone have problems with thier tanks leaking? or hoses ? I just filled the tanks from the bow and overfilled of course. When I have done that in the past the water just runs into the bilge and runs into sink. But never a leak afterwards. I have looked at the inspection hole and no leak there and have a cut out forward to look at hose going into the tank itself and another smaller hose(clear) going somewhere forward, but I see no leaks. Under the floor there is a clear hose going forward, I am assuming to the bow tank. I can only see so far on that one. I am clueless on system of course hoping some one could give me more info on this list.
Barbara
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Barbara,
I just ordered and installed a new set of O-rings for the inspection ports on my water tanks, since most
of them leaked when the tanks were filled to the top. My salon tanks have three inspection ports each,
but only one per tank is accessible through the slide-out plywood bunk extension piece. In other words,
when you lift the settee cushion you only see one access port, reached through holes cut in the plywood
covers. However, removing the slide-out plywood pieces covering the salon tanks (underneath the settee
cushions) reveals two more inspection ports per tank, one for each baffled compartment of the tank. If
your boat also has these check them for leaks around the screw-out center piece. If they’re leaking,
replace the O-rings on all the ports on all tanks.My inspection ports were all made by Beckson Marine, http://www.beckson.com . I think they call them “deck
plates.” Beckson was quick and reasonably priced about sending new O-rings. To order by phone, call Cindy
at 203-333-1412 to order.Good luck,
Tor
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Hi Barb
Generally in our case, it isn’t the tank but rather the over fill that
drips over the floor.. The overflow lines drain inside the hull. On
our boat you can see the small tube coming off the tank through the
forward cutout (along with the bigger fill tube).One way to check (once the floor is dry) is to fill the tank via the
inspection port so you know you haven’t overfilled and then see if you
get water ..– pat
(ps call if you want to walk through it .. 608-233-4341)
svtopaz wrote, On 6/15/2008 7:26 AM:
I have a leak coming from the portside water tank, I believe. It is
dripping on the portside under the floor boards near the mast. I am
trying to get to the tank on that side but it looks like I might not
be able to get to easily. Anyone have problems with thier tanks
leaking? or hoses ? I just filled the tanks from the bow and
overfilled of course. When I have done that in the past the water just
runs into the bilge and runs into sink. But never a leak afterwards. I
have looked at the inspection hole and no leak there and have a cut
out forward to look at hose going into the tank itself and another
smaller hose(clear) going somewhere forward, but I see no leaks. Under
the floor there is a clear hose going forward, I am assuming to the
bow tank. I can only see so far on that one. I am clueless on system
of course hoping some one could give me more info on this list.Barbara
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I had this same problem on my bow tank; the inspection port leaked. I
had to replace the whole port as it has somehow warped and a new o-ring
still did not make the seal.Pete
Silver Heels wrote:
Quote:Barbara,I just ordered and installed a new set of O-rings for the inspection ports on my water tanks, since most
of them leaked when the tanks were filled to the top. My salon tanks have three inspection ports each,
but only one per tank is accessible through the slide-out plywood bunk extension piece. In other words,
when you lift the settee cushion you only see one access port, reached through holes cut in the plywood
covers. However, removing the slide-out plywood pieces covering the salon tanks (underneath the settee
cushions) reveals two more inspection ports per tank, one for each baffled compartment of the tank. If
your boat also has these check them for leaks around the screw-out center piece. If they’re leaking,
replace the O-rings on all the ports on all tanks.My inspection ports were all made by Beckson Marine, http://www.beckson.com . I think they call them “deck
plates.” Beckson was quick and reasonably priced about sending new O-rings. To order by phone, call Cindy
at 203-333-1412 to order.Good luck,
Tor
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http://www.SilverHeels.us
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Hi All,
My tanks vented into a false bulkhead forward (just aft of the sink) in the v-berth area and in the hanging locker in the v-berth. Clearly, overfilling the tank would result in a lot of water going everywhere.
The inspection ports were clear plastic Beckson deckplates. They are not designed for internal pressure. Consequently, by overfilling, you cause the o-ring to leak. I replaced them with stainless steel access plates. You can read about it somewhere on my blog http://thesailinglife.blogspot.com. If anyone is interested, I'll find the link.
I've moved the vents to the bilge, but have come up with a better idea with a loop in the vent and drain to bilge – running the lines to the deep part so I don't fill up all the dips and bumps around the mast.
A better way would be to vent into a sink, but that's too difficult.
Bob
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Pete Dubler < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Quote:I had this same problem on my bow tank; the inspection port leaked. I had to replace the whole port as it has somehow warped and a new o-ring still did not make the seal.Pete
Silver Heels wrote:
Quote:Barbara,I just ordered and installed a new set of O-rings for the inspection ports on my water tanks, since most
of them leaked when the tanks were filled to the top. My salon tanks have three inspection ports each,
but only one per tank is accessible through the slide-out plywood bunk extension piece. In other words,
when you lift the settee cushion you only see one access port, reached through holes cut in the plywood
covers. However, removing the slide-out plywood pieces covering the salon tanks (underneath the settee
cushions) reveals two more inspection ports per tank, one for each baffled compartment of the tank. If
your boat also has these check them for leaks around the screw-out center piece. If they're leaking,
replace the O-rings on all the ports on all tanks.My inspection ports were all made by Beckson Marine, http://www.beckson.com . I think they call them “deck
plates.” Beckson was quick and reasonably priced about sending new O-rings. To order by phone, call Cindy
at 203-333-1412 to order.Good luck,
Tor
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http://www.SilverHeels.us
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I’m hoping the new O-rings in my Beckon Marine inspection ports will stand up to a topped-off water tank, but have not tested them yet. Is anyone out there able to overfill your boat’s water tanks without the Beckson inspection port seals leaking, or are they universally inadequate?
Tor
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Hi Tor,
I didn't realize everyone had them – they were so shoddily installed that they leaked all around and through the o-ring. They were clear or smoked. The long and the short of it is that they're not designed for internal pressure and I'm surprised Pearson put them in.
I've had '78 boats with sealed water tanks. You can't scrub them, of course, but you can shock and clean them chemically.
I had no idea Pearson did that.
Bob
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Silver Heels < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Quote:I'm hoping the new O-rings in my Beckon Marine inspection ports will stand up to a topped-off water tank, but have not tested them yet. Is anyone out there able to overfill your boat's water tanks without the Beckson inspection port seals leaking, or are they universally inadequate?Tor
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I have a lot of good info here. Bob I like the stainless port idea. I am pretty sure it was the inspection port that is the problem, though I am thinking of changing the vent line also. It is the same as yours, it goes through the bulkhead, just aft of the sink up a foot or so,
then back down to the bilge. It looks pretty grunchy. So again thanks everyone.Barbara
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Regarding the vent line, mine goes up a few feet above the tank and then
loops back down draining into a larger diameter piece of tubing and then
down into the bilge. The small tube draining to the larger tube creates
a simple vacuum break to prevent siphoning and makes sure the overflow
goes into the bilge. Also, since the drain loops so high, the tank will
not drain when the boat is heeling steeply.Pete
Robert Fine wrote:
Quote:Hi All,My tanks vented into a false bulkhead forward (just aft of the sink)
in the v-berth area and in the hanging locker in the v-berth.
Clearly, overfilling the tank would result in a lot of water going
everywhere.The inspection ports were clear plastic Beckson deckplates. They are
not designed for internal pressure. Consequently, by overfilling, you
cause the o-ring to leak. I replaced them with stainless steel access
plates. You can read about it somewhere on my blog
http://thesailinglife.blogspot.com. If anyone is interested, I’ll
find the link.I’ve moved the vents to the bilge, but have come up with a better idea
with a loop in the vent and drain to bilge – running the lines to the
deep part so I don’t fill up all the dips and bumps around the mast.A better way would be to vent into a sink, but that’s too difficult.
Bob
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I had this same problem on my bow tank; the inspection port
leaked. I had to replace the whole port as it has somehow warped
and a new o-ring still did not make the seal.Pete
Silver Heels wrote:
Barbara,
I just ordered and installed a new set of O-rings for the
inspection ports on my water tanks, since most
of them leaked when the tanks were filled to the top. My salon
tanks have three inspection ports each,
but only one per tank is accessible through the slide-out
plywood bunk extension piece. In other words,
when you lift the settee cushion you only see one access port,
reached through holes cut in the plywood
covers. However, removing the slide-out plywood pieces
covering the salon tanks (underneath the settee
cushions) reveals two more inspection ports per tank, one for
each baffled compartment of the tank. If
your boat also has these check them for leaks around the
screw-out center piece. If they’re leaking,
replace the O-rings on all the ports on all tanks.My inspection ports were all made by Beckson Marine,
http://www.beckson.com <http://www.beckson.com> . I think they call
them “deck
plates.” Beckson was quick and reasonably priced about sending
new O-rings. To order by phone, call Cindy
at 203-333-1412 to order.Good luck,
Tor
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http://www.SilverHeels.us <http://www.SilverHeels.us>
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Here is the link to Bob’s post on replacing the water tank access panels. Looks like a nice fix.
http://thesailinglife.blogspot.com/2007/08/beautiful-solution.html
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Hi Peter,
That's an excellent idea – and far less expensive than a vented loop. I've been thinking pretty strenuously about whether to vent the loop or not, since the vent doesn't go appreciably into the tank, I'm not worried about siphoning in or out.
Bob
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Pete Dubler < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Regarding the vent line, mine goes up a few feet above the tank and then loops back down draining into a larger diameter piece of tubing and then down into the bilge. The small tube draining to the larger tube creates a simple vacuum break to prevent siphoning and makes sure the overflow goes into the bilge. Also, since the drain loops so high, the tank will not drain when the boat is heeling steeply.
Pete—
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