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    • #67061
      RichCarter
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      One of the recurring threads of this topic is the difficulty in determining the tank level when filling. If you can’t determine level, it is easy to overfill. I’ve looked for a reasonably priced level gauge for the water tanks and have yet to find anything. If you are in the process of replacing the access plates, now would be a good time to consider adding a gauge. If anyone comes across a good solution, please let me know.
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    • #70201
      Anonymous

      Rich, have you checked out the SCADtech tank monitors (I did *not*
      design these myself but we are the distributor of them and they got very
      good reviews in Practical Sailor).

      Pete

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      One of the recurring threads of this topic is the difficulty in determining the tank level when filling. If you can’t determine level, it is easy to overfill. I’ve looked for a reasonably priced level gauge for the water tanks and have yet to find anything. If you are in the process of replacing the access plates, now would be a good time to consider adding a gauge. If anyone comes across a good solution, please let me know.
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    • #70202
      unabated
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      I put a set of SnakeRiver tank sensors on last year.
      The 4 tank model.
      Can’t get more reasonable in price or ease of install.
      http://www.snake-river.org/Products.asp
      ap
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      One of the recurring threads of this topic is the
      difficulty in determining the tank level when
      filling. If you can’t determine level, it is easy
      to overfill. I’ve looked for a reasonably priced
      level gauge for the water tanks and have yet to find
      anything. If you are in the process of replacing
      the access plates, now would be a good time to
      consider adding a gauge. If anyone comes across a
      good solution, please let me know.
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    • #70203
      RichCarter
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      Pete
      Thanks for the reply. My checkbook says that this is an expensive solution. The gauge alone runs $240. I was thinking of a more cost effective gauge. A simple sight-tube is all you need, but it would be difficult to mount. You can get mechanical fuel gauges similar to what the 424 has for about $30 ea. I don’t know what would happen to them if you used them in a water tank however.

      Here’s one with a remote gauge for $40.
      http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|311|302335|7364|939818|940755&id=940380

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    • #70204
      madsailor
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      Hi Rich,

      The absolute simplest way is to make sure the inspection plates are water tight and the vents loop into the bilge several inches below the deck. Then you fill the tanks until they overflow and presto- no more worries. That's what I do.

      I'm also installing the SCADtech monitors, but it's taking longer than I expected because other stuff comes up.

      Bob

      On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:04 AM, < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      One of the recurring threads of this topic is the difficulty in determining the tank level when filling. If you can't determine level, it is easy to overfill. I've looked for a reasonably priced level gauge for the water tanks and have yet to find anything. If you are in the process of replacing the access plates, now would be a good time to consider adding a gauge. If anyone comes across a good solution, please let me know.
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    • #70205
      Anonymous

      I installed Tank Tender-advertised in several boating magazines-in 1985. I have all three tanks connected and it works great. It does not use any power, only air pressure, and is trouble free. Youc can also connect it to your other tanks if you wish. Jim, Revery Cutter #219

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    • #70206
      Hull152_Patrick
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      http://www.thetanktender.com/about.htm
      That actually looks pretty simple to install.

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      Owners no more...
      Thanks Dawn and Patrick!

    • #70207
      unabated
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      but look at the price to do 4 tanks……yikes
      alan
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      That actually looks pretty simple to install.

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    • #70208
      Anonymous

      My boat also has a tank tender on it from PO. It works fine but you
      need to know that it is not a direct readout. It reads out in inches of
      pressure and then you have to look at your self-created conversion table
      for each tank. Not that bad, works will, (you use a little piston pump
      on the panel to pump air in to clear the tube and then read the
      pressure) but amazingly expensive for the multi-tank switch manifolds.

      Pete

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      alan
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    • #70209
      svtopaz
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      I found a kink in the overflow loop. I replaced it but have not check to see if it makes a diference. I am going to put new o-rings in. I would love to have the stainless plates but it is to much $$$. Same with the gauges. The hose I replaced was very dirty and very old. Some one also told me about a fitting I can put on my hose to keep the pressure at a certain level. Think I will look into that also.

      Barbara

    • #70210
      rdugger
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      I installed the 1-8 tank SCAD monitor this winter with sensors on 2 of the 3 water tanks. I liked the potential to add fuel, waste and propane at a later date. Installation was not bad. Instructions were very precise and clear. So far it works as advertised.

      Rick
      Eclipse #73

      On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 6:14 PM, svtopaz < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      I found a kink in the overflow loop. I replaced it but have not check to see if it makes a diference. I am going to put new o-rings in. I would love to have the stainless plates but it is to much $$$. Same with the gauges. The hose I replaced was very dirty and very old. Some one also told me about a fitting I can put on my hose to keep the pressure at a certain level. Think I will look into that also.

      Barbara

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    • #70212
      madsailor
      Moderator

      Hi Rick,

      Good to know – mine is 'in progress' – the monitor is mounted and the holding tank is taped. Wiring and sensors for other tanks coming real soon now.

      Bob

      On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Rick Dugger < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      I installed the 1-8 tank SCAD monitor this winter with sensors on 2 of the 3 water tanks. I liked the potential to add fuel, waste and propane at a later date. Installation was not bad. Instructions were very precise and clear. So far it works as advertised.

      Rick
      Eclipse #73

      On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 6:14 PM, svtopaz < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      I found a kink in the overflow loop. I replaced it but have not check to see if it makes a diference. I am going to put new o-rings in. I would love to have the stainless plates but it is to much $$$. Same with the gauges. The hose I replaced was very dirty and very old. Some one also told me about a fitting I can put on my hose to keep the pressure at a certain level. Think I will look into that also.

      Barbara

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    • #70221
      sumocean
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      Rich

      It seems like it would be easy to plumb a clear tube from a Tee off the
      supply line at the bottom of the tank and run back into the top of the tank.
      The problem would locating it in a spot where it would be easy to see and at
      the same level as the tank. When I saw the door added at the aft end of the
      tank I thought that it would be a great spot for a sight glass that would be
      an accurate way to check the level without having to remove the inspection
      port on top of the tank. I haven’t done this yet as I am trying to get the
      boat ready to use after the repower. Maybe this winter I can jump into this
      one.

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    • #70222
      Jack Clarke
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      The PO of Xanadu ran the looped vent lines from the tee of the main tanks up through the cabin sole against the inboard side of the fridge. The loop goes all the way to the top edge of the fridge and you can read the water level in the tanks through the clear hose. There are indicator marks on the side of the fridge to tell how much water is in the tanks. It's not real accurate, but it's close enough. When I fill the tanks I just listen to the sound of the water in the fill hoses. If there is a spill, it's very little and I use that opportunity to clean the cabin sole. When the boat is heeled I've never had any water leak from the vented loop. The whole set up is under $5.

      Jack Clarke
      Xanadu IV

      On 6/19/08, Linus Sumocean < ([email][/email])> wrote:

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      Rich

      It seems like it would be easy to plumb a clear tube from a Tee off the supply line at the bottom of the tank and run back into the top of the tank. The problem would locating it in a spot where it would be easy to see and at the same level as the tank. When I saw the door added at the aft end of the tank I thought that it would be a great spot for a sight glass that would be an accurate way to check the level without having to remove the inspection port on top of the tank. I haven't done this yet as I am trying to get the boat ready to use after the repower. Maybe this winter I can jump into this one.

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