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I’m re-distributing this blog post to a couple of lists in the hopes the
broader community has some additional insight.Watermakers–Ya gotta have
Faith…<http://www.deepplaya.com/post/Watermakerse28093Ya-gotta-have-Faithe280a6.aspx>I’m deep into my research about water makers, having met with
Spectra<http://www.spectrawatermakers.com/ventura/200.html>,
Hydrovane <http://www.hydrovane-watermakers.com/yacht_series.html>, and Village
Marine <http://www.villagemarine.com/lw.ph.html> yesterday at the Seattle
Boat Show <http://www.seattleboatshow.com/>. I’ve also had extensive
conversations with
CruiseRO<http://www.cruiserowaterandpower.com/WaterMakers.html>.
You can see all the makesmodels and specifications of the units I’ve been
looking at in my Watermaker Comparison
spreadsheet<http://cid-221c83e75e672a96.office.live.com/view.aspx/.Public/WatermakerComparison.xlsx>
.The main debate I’m having with myself is DC or AC based systems. A DC based
system has to run much longer to make an equivalent amount of water to an AC
based system, but you can run it any time without starting a genset. An AC
based system would mean running the Honda EU2000 generator anytime we want
to make water including on longer passages.This is feeling more and more like one of those faith or belief based
decisions, as opposed to one that’s entirely gallonamp-hour based. One the
one hand with a DC based system we have the opportunity to leverage
alternative fuels (sun, wind, etc). With the Generator we’re always
committed to burning gas, LPG or Natural gas. We also would be committed to
managing the generator and running it on long passages (> 1week).I’m really torn on this one… I’m hoping there’s something I’m not seeing and
that you all might have some additional insight to help me make my decision.Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts…
-p—
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Thanks Dawn and Patrick! -
Patrick,
You might drop an email to Jack Tyler. He put a Spectra 12v water-maker on
Whoosh before they departed for Oz. I think he was very satisfied with his
choice. He did not use solar panels to provide the power. He does have a
wind generator and a tow generator. He also looked hard at the AC-DC
choice. I believe he does carry a Honda generator, so the AC choice was
viable.On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Patrick “Peaboy” Walters <
> wrote:I’m re-distributing this blog post to a couple of lists in the hopes the
broader community has some additional insight.Watermakers–Ya gotta have
Faith…<
http://www.deepplaya.com/post/Watermakerse28093Ya-gotta-have-Faithe280a6.aspxI’m deep into my research about water makers, having met with
Spectra<http://www.spectrawatermakers.com/ventura/200.html>,
Hydrovane <http://www.hydrovane-watermakers.com/yacht_series.html>, and
Village
Marine <http://www.villagemarine.com/lw.ph.html> yesterday at the Seattle
Boat Show <http://www.seattleboatshow.com/>. I’ve also had extensive
conversations with
CruiseRO<http://www.cruiserowaterandpower.com/WaterMakers.html>.
You can see all the makesmodels and specifications of the units I’ve been
looking at in my Watermaker Comparison
spreadsheet<
http://cid-221c83e75e672a96.office.live.com/view.aspx/.Public/WatermakerComparison.xlsx
.The main debate I’m having with myself is DC or AC based systems. A DC
based
system has to run much longer to make an equivalent amount of water to an
AC
based system, but you can run it any time without starting a genset. An AC
based system would mean running the Honda EU2000 generator anytime we want
to make water including on longer passages.This is feeling more and more like one of those faith or belief based
decisions, as opposed to one that’s entirely gallonamp-hour based. One the
one hand with a DC based system we have the opportunity to leverage
alternative fuels (sun, wind, etc). With the Generator we’re always
committed to burning gas, LPG or Natural gas. We also would be committed to
managing the generator and running it on long passages (> 1week).I’m really torn on this one… I’m hoping there’s something I’m not seeing
and
that you all might have some additional insight to help me make my
decision.Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts…
-p—
s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.com
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Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.com
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Or just read his article (if you haven’t already):
http://www.svsarah.com/Whoosh/WhooshPacificPrepWaterMaker.htmlOn Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 12:29 PM, John Stevenson
<>wrote:Patrick,
You might drop an email to Jack Tyler. He put a Spectra 12v water-maker on
Whoosh before they departed for Oz. I think he was very satisfied with his
choice. He did not use solar panels to provide the power. He does have a
wind generator and a tow generator. He also looked hard at the AC-DC
choice. I believe he does carry a Honda generator, so the AC choice was
viable.On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Patrick “Peaboy” Walters <
> wrote:I’m re-distributing this blog post to a couple of lists in the hopes the
broader community has some additional insight.Watermakers–Ya gotta have
Faith…<
http://www.deepplaya.com/post/Watermakerse28093Ya-gotta-have-Faithe280a6.aspxI’m deep into my research about water makers, having met with
Spectra<http://www.spectrawatermakers.com/ventura/200.html>,
Hydrovane <http://www.hydrovane-watermakers.com/yacht_series.html>, and
Village
Marine <http://www.villagemarine.com/lw.ph.html> yesterday at the Seattle
Boat Show <http://www.seattleboatshow.com/>. I’ve also had extensive
conversations with
CruiseRO<http://www.cruiserowaterandpower.com/WaterMakers.html>.
You can see all the makesmodels and specifications of the units I’ve been
looking at in my Watermaker Comparison
spreadsheet<
http://cid-221c83e75e672a96.office.live.com/view.aspx/.Public/WatermakerComparison.xlsx
.The main debate I’m having with myself is DC or AC based systems. A DC
based
system has to run much longer to make an equivalent amount of water to an
AC
based system, but you can run it any time without starting a genset. An AC
based system would mean running the Honda EU2000 generator anytime we want
to make water including on longer passages.This is feeling more and more like one of those faith or belief based
decisions, as opposed to one that’s entirely gallonamp-hour based. One
the
one hand with a DC based system we have the opportunity to leverage
alternative fuels (sun, wind, etc). With the Generator we’re always
committed to burning gas, LPG or Natural gas. We also would be committed
to
managing the generator and running it on long passages (> 1week).I’m really torn on this one… I’m hoping there’s something I’m not seeing
and
that you all might have some additional insight to help me make my
decision.Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts…
-p—
s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.com
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Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.com—
Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.com
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I had read that, but it was good to re-read. At the of making his selection
it says they didn’t have a generator and that drove their decision making.
My delimma is given the presence of a generator which choice will i be
happiest with.-p
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 9:30 AM, John Stevenson <>wrote:
Or just read his article (if you haven’t already):
http://www.svsarah.com/Whoosh/WhooshPacificPrepWaterMaker.htmlOn Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 12:29 PM, John Stevenson
<>wrote:Patrick,
You might drop an email to Jack Tyler. He put a Spectra 12v water-makeron
Whoosh before they departed for Oz. I think he was very satisfied with
his
choice. He did not use solar panels to provide the power. He does have
a
wind generator and a tow generator. He also looked hard at the AC-DC
choice. I believe he does carry a Honda generator, so the AC choice was
viable.On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Patrick “Peaboy” Walters <
> wrote:I’m re-distributing this blog post to a couple of lists in the hopes the
broader community has some additional insight.Watermakers–Ya gotta have
Faith…<http://www.deepplaya.com/post/Watermakerse28093Ya-gotta-have-Faithe280a6.aspx
I’m deep into my research about water makers, having met with
Spectra<http://www.spectrawatermakers.com/ventura/200.html>,
Hydrovane <http://www.hydrovane-watermakers.com/yacht_series.html>, and
Village
Marine <http://www.villagemarine.com/lw.ph.html> yesterday at theSeattle
Boat Show <http://www.seattleboatshow.com/>. I’ve also had extensive
conversations with
CruiseRO<http://www.cruiserowaterandpower.com/WaterMakers.html>.
You can see all the makesmodels and specifications of the units I’vebeen
looking at in my Watermaker Comparison
spreadsheet<http://cid-221c83e75e672a96.office.live.com/view.aspx/.Public/WatermakerComparison.xlsx
.
The main debate I’m having with myself is DC or AC based systems. A DC
based
system has to run much longer to make an equivalent amount of water toan
AC
based system, but you can run it any time without starting a genset. AnAC
based system would mean running the Honda EU2000 generator anytime we
want
to make water including on longer passages.
This is feeling more and more like one of those faith or belief based
decisions, as opposed to one that’s entirely gallonamp-hour based. One
the
one hand with a DC based system we have the opportunity to leverage
alternative fuels (sun, wind, etc). With the Generator we’re always
committed to burning gas, LPG or Natural gas. We also would be committed
to
managing the generator and running it on long passages (> 1week).I’m really torn on this one… I’m hoping there’s something I’m not seeing
and
that you all might have some additional insight to help me make my
decision.Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts…
-p—
s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.com
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Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.com—
Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.com
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Thanks Dawn and Patrick! -
For me,since I use a Honda generator to run the AC refrigerator,running both at the same time daily covers both.Just one viewpoint.
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 23, 2011, at 12:21, “Patrick “Peaboy” Walters” <> wrote:
I’m re-distributing this blog post to a couple of lists in the hopes the
broader community has some additional insight.Watermakers–Ya gotta have
Faith…<http://www.deepplaya.com/post/Watermakerse28093Ya-gotta-have-Faithe280a6.aspx>I’m deep into my research about water makers, having met with
Spectra<http://www.spectrawatermakers.com/ventura/200.html>,
Hydrovane <http://www.hydrovane-watermakers.com/yacht_series.html>, and Village
Marine <http://www.villagemarine.com/lw.ph.html> yesterday at the Seattle
Boat Show <http://www.seattleboatshow.com/>. I’ve also had extensive
conversations with
CruiseRO<http://www.cruiserowaterandpower.com/WaterMakers.html>.
You can see all the makesmodels and specifications of the units I’ve been
looking at in my Watermaker Comparison
spreadsheet<http://cid-221c83e75e672a96.office.live.com/view.aspx/.Public/WatermakerComparison.xlsx>
.The main debate I’m having with myself is DC or AC based systems. A DC based
system has to run much longer to make an equivalent amount of water to an AC
based system, but you can run it any time without starting a genset. An AC
based system would mean running the Honda EU2000 generator anytime we want
to make water including on longer passages.This is feeling more and more like one of those faith or belief based
decisions, as opposed to one that’s entirely gallonamp-hour based. One the
one hand with a DC based system we have the opportunity to leverage
alternative fuels (sun, wind, etc). With the Generator we’re always
committed to burning gas, LPG or Natural gas. We also would be committed to
managing the generator and running it on long passages (> 1week).I’m really torn on this one… I’m hoping there’s something I’m not seeing and
that you all might have some additional insight to help me make my decision.Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts…
-p—
s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.com
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Patrick,
 A quick before the football game starts.
 Jack Tyler has extensive thoughts on this subject on his (John’s website) and at SSCA.
 2 items to keep in mind
 1. AC is not a natural on a boat. You have to make AC which is something else to maintain. To convert AC to DC there are losses in the conversion.
 2. Make sure that what ever unit you get, that the parts to repair it are not proprietary. I made my own 34 gph unit using off the shelf parts that was driven by a Kubota E300 mounted in the aft lazerette which also had a 100 amp alternator attached.
All manual valves, simple to operate, simple to build, simple to maintain.
 It’s just high pressure water though a filter…..
alan
Last year at this time I was at anchor in Bequia…… now it’s -4 here….sucks— On Sun, 1/23/11, Patrick “Peaboy” Walters <> wrote:
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