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May 24, 2009 at 6:42 am #67522
Hull152_Patrick
SpectatorWas the Wilbur Industries Proplock standard equipment? Has anyone removed theirs and have learning to share on that?
I want to remove it because its ancient and it appears as though Wilbur Industries is out of business, there’s a spring on it which is busted, it extends almost all the way out to the engine cover and I plan to get a folding prop eventually which will accomplish the same.
I’m just not sure about removing the line from the transmission case will that result in a big mess? What kind of plug do I then use to cap that hole and what are the odds I’ll be able to find the plug for a W58?
Thanks,
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May 24, 2009 at 4:55 pm #72733
Chuck Ruble
ParticipantPat, a standard pipe plug will cap the hole.
I say keep it cause if you lose your folding prop for some reason and have to resort to a backup (Hal didn't throw anything away, I still have the original Michigan Sailor) you'll want to be able to lock the prop as the Velvet Drive ideally shouldn't spin free when the engine isn't running. Sea Duty has a Maxx Prop as well as a working prop lock.
The spring could be found at Home Depot or Lowes. The seal kit for the hydraulic unit is still available from the manufacturer of that component and the brake pads can be found also.
If you need any information on parts I'll dig them up.
It's a really cool unit that is surprisingly well made. I've got no springs on mine and it works without but rattles.
ChuckOn Sun, May 24, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Patrick Walters < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Was the Wilbur Industries Proplock standard equipment? Has anyone removed theirs and have learning to share on that?
I want to remove it because its ancient and it appears as though Wilbur Industries is out of business, there's a spring on it which is busted, it extends almost all the way out to the engine cover and I plan to get a folding prop eventually which will accomplish the same.
I'm just not sure about removing the line from the transmission case will that result in a big mess? What kind of plug do I then use to cap that hole and what are the odds I'll be able to find the plug for a W58?
Thanks,
-p
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May 24, 2009 at 5:06 pm #72735
john stevensonParticipantChuck,
I think you've once more opened up that discussion on free-wheeling. When I replaced my Paragon with the Velvet Drive last year I had the Velvet Drive tech rep state unequivocally that free-wheeling will not damage the VD. Of course that rotating prop makes a lot of noise, so you may still want a brake, but it won't damage the transmission (according to VD) nor the V-Drive (according to Walter).John
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Chuck Ruble < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Pat, a standard pipe plug will cap the hole.
I say keep it cause if you lose your folding prop for some reason and have to resort to a backup (Hal didn't throw anything away, I still have the original Michigan Sailor) you'll want to be able to lock the prop as the Velvet Drive ideally shouldn't spin free when the engine isn't running. Sea Duty has a Maxx Prop as well as a working prop lock.
The spring could be found at Home Depot or Lowes. The seal kit for the hydraulic unit is still available from the manufacturer of that component and the brake pads can be found also.
If you need any information on parts I'll dig them up.
It's a really cool unit that is surprisingly well made. I've got no springs on mine and it works without but rattles.
ChuckOn Sun, May 24, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Patrick Walters < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Was the Wilbur Industries Proplock standard equipment? Has anyone removed theirs and have learning to share on that?
I want to remove it because its ancient and it appears as though Wilbur Industries is out of business, there's a spring on it which is busted, it extends almost all the way out to the engine cover and I plan to get a folding prop eventually which will accomplish the same.
I'm just not sure about removing the line from the transmission case will that result in a big mess? What kind of plug do I then use to cap that hole and what are the odds I'll be able to find the plug for a W58?
Thanks,
-p
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May 24, 2009 at 7:57 pm #72737
Anonymous
I don’t know what kind of transmission I have on my boat. How can I find out?
Lee
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May 24, 2009 at 9:44 pm #72738
Hull152_Patrick
SpectatorOK, so its seemed like the option of doing less work was the best one in this case. I cut a little window in the sound insulation and installed the last piece of foam. Done and Done.
I do have some extra foam maybe I’ll put a piece on the center hatch too to see if it quiets the v-drive a bit, but that is for another day maybe when I put the PYI hatchbord locks in.
Enjoy the long weekend everyone!
-p
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May 26, 2009 at 3:17 pm #72744
RichCarterParticipantPatrick
A standard pipe plug should work.Take a look at my repower notes when selecting a propeller. I purchased a slipstream. I highly recommned it.
http://www.richardcarter.net/repower/Propeller.htmlRegards
Rich
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September 11, 2011 at 6:41 pm #77620
Hull152_Patrick
SpectatorHey Chuck,
do you happen to have the PN for the brake pads or know an equivalent replacement part.
Thanks,
-p@Chuck Ruble wrote:
Pat, a standard pipe plug will cap the hole.
I say keep it cause if you lose your folding prop for some reason and have to resort to a backup (Hal didn’t throw anything away, I still have the original Michigan Sailor) you’ll want to be able to lock the prop as the Velvet Drive ideally shouldn’t spin free when the engine isn’t running. Sea Duty has a Maxx Prop as well as a working prop lock.
The spring could be found at Home Depot or Lowes. The seal kit for the hydraulic unit is still available from the manufacturer of that component and the brake pads can be found also.
If you need any information on parts I’ll dig them up.
It’s a really cool unit that is surprisingly well made. I’ve got no springs on mine and it works without but rattles.
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September 11, 2011 at 9:23 pm #77626
kalinowski
ParticipantRich:
Can you quantify (roughly) how much of a positive change a folding prop made on your boat? I’m never in a hurry to get anywhere, but I am curious.
Dan kalinowski
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September 12, 2011 at 12:39 am #77631
RichCarterParticipantDan
I have a three-blade folding prop. I would guess that there is no
difference in performance when powering in forward. I lose performance in
reverse, but if I rev the engine up it seems to work fine for me. I’m not
sure how much I lose in reverse. Its been over 20 years since I had a fixed
prop on there. As I recall, the boat used to stop on a dime. I can still
do that if I rev the engine.My best guess on performance under sail is about a half-knott in winds under
15kts true. With the prop folded, its pretty hard to snag a lobsta-trap
which is nice since there’re all over my cruising area.Rich
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September 12, 2011 at 4:26 pm #77633
kalinowski
ParticipantThanks for the info Rich, No lobsta traps here. My only concerns are whether Moby is out there in the pods that swim by!
Dan Kalinowski
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September 12, 2011 at 4:38 pm #77634
joe shimkonis
Participanthow do you contact them- I have been looking for a proplock.Can’t find them on the internet.
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September 25, 2011 at 1:40 am #77734
Chuck Ruble
ParticipantPatrick, try this link;
http://www.mfgsupply.com/m/c/4-489.html?id=rvr6Qc98
They are too thick, I used a belt sander to make it thinner.
Chuck
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