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  • in reply to: Transporting a P424 Via Truck #80299
    Tor
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    Years ago when I was a yacht dealer, I used to truck boats cross-country
    fairly often.

    Costs:
    – Decide which boat yards you will use, then call them and ask for estimates
    and for owner preparation suggestions. They’ve done this stuff before and
    should know what it entails.
    – Ask for trucker recommendations.
    – Just for grins, find out what a professional delivery skipper would charge
    to sail the boat down for you.

    Spars
    – The spars will need to be securely lashed on the deck or coachhouse for
    the trip. Be fussy about that; inspect them closely before the truck pulls
    out, looking for areas that will chafe as the truck bounces along the
    highway. Pad those areas very well. Otherwise you may wind up with a damaged
    mast, boom and/or deck. Truckers and boat yards are not always as careful as
    they should be about this detail.

    Trucker
    – Shop around and let them know you’re comparing bids. You’d be surprised at
    how much trucking charges vary from company to company.
    – Be sure they regularly carry yachts, even if you pay a little more for
    that experience.
    – Ask the trucking company for owner/yard preparation suggestions.
    – Obtain a copy of the trucker’s insurance coverage (in advance), and then
    check with your insurance provider about coverage for the trip.

    Tanks
    – Although for such a short road trip this may not be necessary, I’d use the
    preparation as an opportunity to empty and clean the water tanks, and either
    empty or top off the fuel (unless the insurance or regulations require empty
    fuel tanks – the trucking company should know about that).

    Reef early,

    Tor


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    in reply to: Repower Photos #80277
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    A handsome job, Chuck. I’ll bet you’re feeling real good about it, and
    deservedly so.

    Tor


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    in reply to: Base of the mast #80274
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    Rich,

    I agree that what you did will work just fine, and you can’t beat the cost. Most of my “improvements” have followed the same kind of approach: Work with what you have, don’t try to build a new Swan, and don’t sweat the small stuff.

    Tor


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    in reply to: Base of the mast #80271
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    Rich,

    Your mast step fix sounds smart, although I’m not sure a wood block is as
    durable as some other materials might be. FYI, not all 424’s have mast steps
    as far gone as you describe. When I pulled Silverheels’ masts in 2007, the
    main step was rusty but not corroded or swelled, and the mainmast base was
    corrosion-free. I cleaned it up really well, then prepped the clean metal
    with phosphoric acid, then zinc oxide primer, and finally a couple of coats
    of some super paint for steel boats that some Brits gave me, white so I can
    see problems developing. Six years later the paint & step still look good
    with no signs of rust. However, I rarely have water around it and when I do
    it’s rainwater, not salt since my chain locker is sealed. I’m sure that
    helps.

    If I ever had to replace that step (which I don’t anticipate in my
    lifetime), I think I’d spring for a stainless steel version from a machine
    shop.

    Tor


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    in reply to: Base of the mast #80269
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    Ken,

    I changed the set-up on that anchor chain snubber. Some time after taking
    that photo (back in 2009), it occurred to me that if I ever had to slip
    anchor in an emergency, I would first have to retrieve about 20′ of chain
    with the windlass in order to release the snubber. I could imagine
    situations where this could be dangerous or even impossible. So now I run
    the snubber from a bow cleat alongside the anchor roller, then down to &
    thru the stem eyebolt (with some chafe protection) and back to the foredeck
    again (photo attached). If it ever becomes necessary to let go, I can do it
    instantly.

    It is a permanent joke at the boat yard that when I first arrived back in
    early 2007 I announced I’d be there “a few months” whipping my old 424 into
    shape, and then I was going cruising. Well, there is a popular saying among
    sailors about planning boat projects: Make your best conservative estimate,
    then double the cost and triple the time. In my experience that is a gross
    understatement. 2½ years later I finally did set sail – with a much-improved
    boat. The thing is, I had already been cruising quite a bit in previous
    boats and so I didn’t feel so compelled to “get going” this time. That
    turned out to be a great blessing. It allowed me to slow down, relax, focus
    on one refit job at a time and actually enjoy the process. And I did! BTW,
    most of that time we were afloat dockside, not on the hard, and that
    certainly helped the attitude.

    Tor


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    in reply to: Base of the mast #80268
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    Tor, how big are the drain holes?

    Hey Quent,

    I don’t remember. Probably around 1/2″, but initially over-drilled and then
    epoxy-coated to keep water out of the hull laminate.

    Incidentally, since I expected the bottom of the chain locker to be wet much
    of the time, I made a pair of epoxy-coated blocks from scrap 2×4, drilled a
    big hole through the middle, passed the bitter end of each anchor rode
    through one of the blocks and secured it with a stop knot. These blocks act
    as filler pieces, holding line off the locker bottom surface. Mainly,
    though, they’re line stoppers to prevent an accidental loss of an entire
    anchor rode overboard because I scoped out more rode than I have, the blocks
    being too big to fit through the deck pipes.

    Tor


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    in reply to: Base of the mast #80263
    Tor
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    I breed my pet mosquitos in that puddle. Very handy.

    As for the anchor locker draining into the bilge, hello? One of Mr.
    Pearson’s less brilliant notions. When you bring in yucky anchor rode from a
    muddy bottom it can only drain into the bilge starting forward and
    eventually, theoretically find its way back to the sump to be pumped
    overboard – except for the last inch of sludge. Thirty years of that
    nonsense doesn’t do much to sweeten the bilges. When cut out the original
    anchor well and built a proper chain locker forward, I sealed the bottom of
    the locker so it no longer drains into the boat. Then I drilled limber holes
    through the hull at the base of the locker sides, port & starboard, angled
    slightly down and aft to encourage water to drain out but not flow in. On
    the outside I mounted small clamshell covers (see photo) to deflect
    seawater. This arrangement works perfectly. Silverheels’ chain locker is
    always dry, easy to rinse out with a water hose, and her bilges are clean –
    except for that puddle forward of the mainmast, which I sop dry with a
    sponge every once in a while.

    Tor


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    in reply to: Oh Crap! #80242
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    There should be a thread on composting toilets in the pearson424.org
    archives. One of our group did all the research and chronicled his
    installation a few years ago. From what I’ve heard, it’s a great way to go.
    I kind of wish I’d known about it when I was refitting Silverheels.

    I will say that my traditional overboard/holding tank system, which I
    installed, never smells. In my experience, this is rare. I’d guess
    90-something percent of head compartments stink, sometimes stinking up the
    whole interior of the boat. The reason mine doesn’t (and didn’t on my
    previous boats) is simply that I maintain a *20-pump rule. Whether you pee
    or poop, it’s 20 pumps counted from when the bowl is first empty and clean.
    By never leaving raw sewage in the system, I never have an odor. On the
    occasions that I have to use Silverheels’ holding tank, it doesn’t smell,
    either. That’s because I vented it properly, with both air intake and air
    outlet hoses. If you google the subject you’ll find some excellent articles
    on the subject. Hardly anyone vents holding tanks properly, including
    builders, and that’s largely why they stink. (Old or cheap hoses are another
    source of odor.)

    *20 pumps is not universal. IF that is enough to clear the plumbing
    entirely, fine, but you have to find out. You do this by putting a couple of
    squares of toilet paper in the toilet and having someone flush it while you
    watch the discharge outlet thru a dive mask from the outside. Count how many
    pumps it takes until no paper particles are emerging. That’s the pump rule
    number for that boat.

    Tor


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    in reply to: Bulkhead Repair #80237
    Tor
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    I agree with Ken, including that “some fiberglass mat replacement to the tab
    would be the best thing.” As for the overlapping strip at the joint, I’m not
    sure 2″ is wide enough. I’d prefer to see it 4″ or even 6″ wide, glued and
    stagger-screwed.

    Tor


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    in reply to: Shaft (s) Alignment. #80231
    Tor
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    Thanks, Pete. I stand corrected. I actually had a mechanic do the alignment
    last spring when I re-installed my re-built V-drive. Very possible that I
    remembered (or understood) the procedure incorrectly. In any case,
    Silverheels has no vibration at any RPM and no wear on the cutlass bearing
    so far, so whichever way he did it worked.

    I must remember never to offer mechanical advice. I am not a mechanic.

    Tor


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    in reply to: Shaft (s) Alignment. #80226
    Tor
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    Ken,

    Unless you have a long way to go before you reach the boat yard, you may
    want to just wait and re-align the whole drive train when you re-launch.

    The shaft between the engine and the V-drive, which I call the jack shaft,
    is aligned by first bolting the coupling at the transmission and then using
    the V-drive’s several positioning adjustments to align the forward coupling,
    where the jack shaft couples to the V-drive. The Walter V-drive manual
    explains exactly how to do that. If you don’t have the manual I can email it
    to you as a PDF file.

    Once the jack shaft is aligned, you then align the propeller shaft to
    V-drive coupling as you would any other prop shaft coupling.

    If the boat has been running out of alignment for a while, it may need a new
    cutlass bearing now. (Let me know if you have trouble removing the old one
    and I’ll tell you a few tricks I learned when doing mine.) If/when you do
    replace the cutlass bearing you’ll have to pull the prop shaft. You may as
    well have it checked and trued on the lathe at Coats’ Machine Shop at the
    marina road entrance. Chuck Coats is a good ol’ country boy and he won’t
    overcharge you. (He’s also great at working with you to create custom bits &
    pieces during your refit. Tell him I said hey.)

    While you’re at it, it does no harm (and might do some good) to also have
    the propeller “reconditioned” if the PO never did. It only costs about $100.
    Just bring it into the marina office, tell them what you want, and they’ll
    have it picked up and delivered back within a week.

    If your V-drive has never been rebuilt, consider having that done by the
    Walter factory in New Jersey. It isn’t cheap, but those things don’t last
    forever on their own.

    Have fun,

    Tor


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    Ken,

    Someone else (or else the V-drive manual) can walk you through the alignment
    procedure. I was just wondering whether you’ve checked the cutlass bearing
    and prop balance.

    Tor


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    in reply to: How big is your dinghy? #80217
    Tor
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    I have occasionally seen sailboats towing a dinghy with its stern forward
    and raised. It seemed more efficient than the more typical, bow-first
    method.

    Pete, another consideration not mentioned here so far: If you intend to make
    any offshore passages, the dinghy needs to be stowed on deck or, if
    possible, in a locker. You certainly can’t tow it safely, and a davit-slung
    tender can be precarious and become dangerous in heavy weather. My
    inflatable, with its sectional floorboards removed, rolls up into a
    manageable bundle that I lash securely forward of the main mast. I wonder
    how 424’s fit an RIB on deck during passages. Has anyone done it?

    Tor


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    in reply to: How big is your dinghy? #80207
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    Geez, it seems I have the smallest dinghy in the fleet. No wonder I can’t
    get… Never mind, mine is a 9′ West Marine PVC made by Zodiac with
    sectional plywood floorboards, pushed by an 8hp 2-stroke Yamaha. Planes with
    one adult and a grandchild. Since I single-hand so much, this 9-footer is
    adequate. Rides easily in davits with the outboard stowed separately on the
    stern rail. Sure, I’d enjoy a bigger tender with a 15hp on it, but don’t
    want to deal with such a large, heavy outboard.

    Thinking of adding a sailing dinghy to the repertoire.

    Tor


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    in reply to: Prop Shaft Diameter?? #80203
    Tor
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    Congratulations on completing such a long passage to windward.

    Tor


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