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Remind me Joe, where are you based?
On 7/5/2013 2:11 PM, joe shimkonis wrote:
Quote:Many of the large agents that cover homes and cars also cover boats.I have properties and cars with Allstate- valued the boat at $125000 at pay approx $800 per year- for anywhere in US coastal waters.You could add Bahamas or Carribean for the months you actually leave the US coast.I had raised the coverage last year-prior to that I was paying less than $500 /yr for $90,000.________________________________
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Do you have an agent you work with? Everyone appreciates referrals I
imagine.On 7/5/2013 10:55 AM, cstewart wrote:
Pete: congratulations on getting Regina Oceana wet again. Can’t wait to see her in salt water. I just got my insurance renewal and it is $1500 year for all US and Canada waters which includes our home port in Gulf Shores, hurricane alley. It is with Seaworthy Insurance a Berkshire Hathaway company.
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Do you have a cap’n license John? Could you refer me to an agent?
On 7/5/2013 10:46 AM, John Stevenson wrote:
Pete,
I’ve used IMIS (Markel) for the past 8 years. This year my premium in FL
was about $1800 with an additional $550 for Hurricane coverage. I almost
skipped the Hurricane coverage because Jax almost never gets hit by a major
storm; however this area is subject to strong storm surges so I took it.
Melbourne is not subject to strong surges so I would likely have not taken
coverage if I kept my boat there. I plan to go to the Bahamas this fall
and that will require a $170 additional premium.
IMIS is an easy company to deal with, although I’ve never made a claim.
The Jackline policy is the only one I found that would cover me for
single-handed trips, although only for 24 hours. They are also one of the
few that will cover short-handed (2 person) ocean voyages. Boat/US just
isn’t in that business. When I sailed to Bermuda in 2001 I used Boat/US.
Initially they wouldn’t write the coverage because 2 of the 5 persons on
board had no ocean sailing experience. Those persons both had over 15
years of coastal sailing experience. Fortunately I had a friend in the
underwriting dept who convinced the VP that we were a reasonable risk.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Pete Dubler wrote:
Well it’s time to move the queen, Regina Oceani, back to salt water. We
working on setting up the trucking for early August and I stated to look at
the insurance for the boat being in Melbourne, Florida. I was amazed at
the BoatUS $3890 quote for a $125,000 hull value ($3645 with an $85,000
agreed value).I know the insurance discussion has graced these pages many times before,
but I thought I might ask for some current inputs and thoughts. Has
anyone worked with Al Golden? Other thoughts?Thanks,
Pete
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East coast. Bahamas is $100 more per year. South of there is
separately quoted based on offshore experience.
On 7/5/2013 10:39 AM, Page Two wrote:This discussion already has me terrified. I’ve never had insurance on a boat other than my own two hands and ground tackle (Hugo did me a very dirty deed in Antigua) and with the upcoming new purchase of a 424 we have briefly talked about possibly getting insurance. Pete, those numbers are mind boggling to me! Would those numbers include travel south past the Bahamas’s or is that just to stay in Florida?
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I understand you have to flush it and wish I had switched when I rebuilt
my tranny and had the clear opportunity. Thing is I lubricated the
parts with ATF as I assembled the unit and THEN read in the manual that
you could just use motor oil instead.Pete
On 7/2/2013 6:24 PM, Robert Fine wrote:
True. I’m too chicken to change my trans oil, though, or I’d do it.
Bob
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Pete Dubler wrote:
In fact, some run that in their engine, tranny, and v-drive and then you
only need to keep one oil on board.Pete
On 7/2/2013 3:37 PM, Robert Fine wrote:
30 wt non detergent is what the specs say but i’ve seen gear oil in there.
Bob
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Jul 2, 2013 5:35 PM, “Lee Yonkers” wrote:What weight oil should I put in my V-Drive??
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In fact, some run that in their engine, tranny, and v-drive and then you
only need to keep one oil on board.Pete
On 7/2/2013 3:37 PM, Robert Fine wrote:
30 wt non detergent is what the specs say but i’ve seen gear oil in there.
Bob
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On Jul 2, 2013 5:35 PM, “Lee Yonkers” wrote:What weight oil should I put in my V-Drive??
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Thank you Archimedes. This is why water lines and boot strips tend to
move up over time on cruising boats.Pete
On 6/25/2013 2:17 PM, Robert Fine wrote:
Quote:Ok, here’s the scoop: the weight and the actual displacement are exactly
the same or the boat would sink. But the tonnage on the documentation
isn’t calculated that way. It is the number of 100cu.ft. volumes that can
carry cargo.That said, if the boat dry weighs 23,000lbs, it necessarily displaces
23,000lbs of water. It turns out that doing so leaves 3′ of freeboard, but
that’s a design choice.I assume each one of our boats weighs a little differently depending on the
interior and rig. Mine’s the L-shaped ketch.Bob
On Jun 25, 2013 3:58 PM, wrote:Quote:When I haul with full fuel tank and empty water tanks, the scales say
about 24000. I don’t really empty the boat when I haul. I might have
about 1500 lbs of stuff in there including anchor gear.Rich
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The trucker I am dealing with only cares about not going over a certain
maximum weight but simply charges by the on-way mile ($4)Pete
On 6/25/2013 1:46 PM, joe shimkonis wrote:
Quote:Most truckers weigh the load once it’s loaded.I would think giving the trucker a range will enable him to give you an estimated fee.Long distance household moves are always billed at actual weight hauled.
You’re probably between 22000 and 24500 depending on water,personal items ,and equipment on board.________________________________
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Not hard to become a ham. Â There often are one day study. Learn the answers. Take the test seminars at boat shows and ssca gams
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Not sure if it is still the case, but some of the winlink stations would
limit your connect time to a certain amount, like 30 minutes per day.
That is where the faster modems really made a difference.Pete
On 6/21/2013 5:05 PM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:I guess there is a point of diminishing returns. I’m not doing all that much
offshore sailing these days, my recent 2000 nm trip excepted. I may not need
the Full GRIB Monty. Gotta’ sort through it first, then decide what makes
sense. Sounds like it might be cheaper to buy a Sat Phone and simply call
Alan for weather updates.🙂
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Winmor I understand is about a Pactor-II equivalent in terms of speed
and maybe not as noise/bad signal resilient. Pactor-III is 3 to 4X
faster than Pactor-II. Pactor-IV is supposed to be about 2X faster than
Pactor-III. (so 6 to 8 times faster than Pactor-II) But man-oh-man, the
SCS modem prices are just silly any more.On 6/21/2013 4:25 PM, John Stevenson wrote:
Quote:Tor,
Here is a link to the Winmor software,
which uses the soundcard to talk to the
SSB. I’ve not looked into it so I
can’t offer any advice (not informed advice anyway).
You don’t need a Ham license for SailMail, but it costs $250/year. Winlink
is free, but requires the license.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:Alan,Lucky you! I’ve been wanting to do an offshore passage on a cat. I’m
curious
about how they sail & feel.I’m not a techie, but I am reasonably literate. Is there some software out
there that can turn my computer’s sound card into a surrogate pactor modem?By the way, Alan, I take back half of what I said about Bermuda. Other than
locking up my rifles on arrival, the clearing-in & out was painless and,
incredibly, free of charges. I stand corrected on that one. However,
regarding “expensive,” beers and munchies for the crew at the Whithorse
Tavern in St. Georges cost this captain over $200 in one happy hour. On the
plus side, I ran into two old sailing buddies there and enjoyed touring the
island by bus & ferry. Nice place, conveniently located. I’ll be more
inclined to stop there next time.Tor
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There is a newer yet pactor protocol and modem which might mean a lot of
rich folks upgrading and putting their older, but very serviceable
pactor modems up for sale.On 6/21/2013 2:25 PM, Alan wrote:
Quote:PActor modems are quite expensive. The best place to learn how to set one up and get it working would be dockside radio.com. The newest technology to come along is using your sound card on your laptop computer. but that’s a little techno wienie for Tor I’m sure.
I’m Flying to Bermuda on Monday and sailing back to New York City on 46 foot catamaran, should be fun.
AlanSent from my iPhone
On Jun 21, 2013, at 4:20 PM, “Silverheels” wrote:
Quote:Nope, no pactor modem or airmail set-up. I guess it’s time I put away my
sextant and catch up. I seem to recall that airmail is only for hams, which
I am not. I’ll look into it. Any recommendations regarding pactor modems?Tor
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Next we get into the interesting discussions of 500mb charts vs surface
charts etc.
I did the Starpath adv marine meteorology course many years ago and
continued to study weather after that. Ended up teaching a class for a
few years in high school. I found the best way to learn it is to just
look at the 500mb, surface, and synopses everyday for several months for
various areas of the world. Pretty soon you see how things develop and
flow and how the stuff aloft leads to what the TV weather guy tells us.
(of course, doing some textbook work helps too) (not unlike learning to
trade stocks)Pete
On 6/21/2013 1:34 PM, John Stevenson wrote:
Quote:Tor,
Using Ugrib to display the GRIB data retrieved via SSB is just a matter of
having Airmail and Ugrib use the same folder to save and retrieve the GRIBs.
When using the SSB to retrieve GRIBs I normally use the Airmail viewer
rather than Ugrib. I use Ugrib for planning and in-harbor weather
forecasts when connected to the Internet via WIFI or Internet Cafe. I just
don’t have enough bandwidth on the SSB to download the large GRIBs I use
with Ugrib. For the smaller SSB GRIBs the Airmail viewer is more than
adequate. You can also display the GRIBs on a navigation chart via OpenCPN
or other chart plotters, although I don’t find this as useful as the Ugrib
and Airmail viewers.I published a web page on retrieving weather data via SSB back in 2007,
just before I left Portugal to return to the USA:
http://www.svsarah.com/Sailing/ewWxDocSchedules.htm
This is most likely more information than you are interested in, but I do
discuss the fact that weather data is perishable and you need to be sure
you are getting the most recent data available. I describe how I schedule
the document retrievals to provide the best chance to get the most current
forecast. When a GRIB is first published it is already 6 hours after the
data on which the forecast is based (takes a lot of computer time to crunch
a world-wide model). However, if you miss-time the retrieval and get an
old GRIB just before the new one is published, the difference can be as
much as 12 hours.The rest of the page reflects my past as a weather forecaster – I can never
have too much data.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:Thanks to you that helped me out with this, especially Pete for making the
program setup file available to me. That got it onto my newer (Windows 7)
laptop. Meanwhile, to attempt a different approach, I logged on with my
older (Windows XP) nav station laptop and SHAZAM! It downloaded the program
on the first try. Obviously there was something in my new computer that
wasn’t functioning with the grib.us website. Anyway, I now have the
program
on both machines, am beginning to play with it, and it is awesome. Better
than passageweather in that GRIB forecasts rainfall in addition to wind.I’m anxious to learn how to download this data via SSB. I expect I’ll
figure
it out in time, but if anyone is familiar with the procedure and cares to
share the knowledge, I’d be grateful for it. (Alan? It’s thanks to your
wifi
antenna recommendation a few years ago that I’m online at all in this
harbor.)Tor
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Do you have a pactor modem and airmail set-up? If so, in airmail you
can set up to have various weather faxes, synopses, and other files such
as grib files downloaded to you (actually queued up automatically so
when you check your email they download) by using those features in Airmail.Pete
On 6/21/2013 12:50 PM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:Thanks to you that helped me out with this, especially Pete for making the
program setup file available to me. That got it onto my newer (Windows 7)
laptop. Meanwhile, to attempt a different approach, I logged on with my
older (Windows XP) nav station laptop and SHAZAM! It downloaded the program
on the first try. Obviously there was something in my new computer that
wasn’t functioning with the grib.us website. Anyway, I now have the program
on both machines, am beginning to play with it, and it is awesome. Better
than passageweather in that GRIB forecasts rainfall in addition to wind.I’m anxious to learn how to download this data via SSB. I expect I’ll figure
it out in time, but if anyone is familiar with the procedure and cares to
share the knowledge, I’d be grateful for it. (Alan? It’s thanks to your wifi
antenna recommendation a few years ago that I’m online at all in this
harbor.)Tor
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The problem I think if you just had the app is that you still need an account to use their nifty area selecting feature where you just drag the mouse to specify any rectangular area that you want to view and then it downloads the data for that area.
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