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Linus
I mounted a second alternator and refrigeration compressor. The mounts weren’t stiff enough. The accessory mounts were vibrating. I had to remove them and weld some stiffeners to reduce vibration. They attach under the engine mounts on each side. To pull them, I had to remove the engine mounts, first one side, then the other.Regards
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Tor
I repowered three years ago. I added up what the parts alone cost me. It came to $21,175 not including labor. I did the work myself. I would estimate that labor would run another $8k..$10K at yard rates.
http://www.richardcarter.net/boat/pix/RepowerCost.xlsWhile it could be done for less, I replaced everything including tank, v-drive and running gear.
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Without too much effort, it would be fairly easy to spend about $30K repowering a 424. If I look around my boat, I can easily add up another $30K or more in electronics and other goodies. To see one selling for the low $40’s is disturbing. While it doesn’t really matter what they sell for as long as mine isn’t for sale, I assume that some day we or our heirs will all face the prospect of selling our boats. Unless there’s something wrong with a 424, I can’t see why it would sell for less than $70K. If the boat is in good condition, $85K or more seems more appropriate. Am I way offbase here?
Rich
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Mary
If my tanks are fairly low, the water pump has difficulty priming. Some pumps will self prime, others won’t. It depends on pump design. If the water level in the tank is lower than the pump, my pump won’t prime. If this happens, the faucet will sound like its pumping air. In this case, both hot and cold water faucets will behave the same way.Regards
Rich
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Copper protects itself with that green patina. If you see that green color on the pipes, I wouldn’t worry. You should inspect your gas lines on a regular basis. I have a pressure gauge on one of my tanks. I check the system by pressurizing the lines, then shutting the valve off on the tank. If I come back in a couple of hours and see that the gauge hasn’t moved, its not leaking. if its not leaking don’t worry.
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Anything that floats… This one can be had for a song. I like the enclosed cockpit.
See attached.
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James
I’ve refinished my cabin sole several times. I’m sure most owners have done it at least once. If you go the the beach and come back on the boat with sand on your clothes and feet, sand is bound to get below and wear the finish. Even normal traffic does a number on the sole, especially the aft half from the galley aft to the cockpit companionway. If something gets dropped on the sole, it can damage the venire.Chemical strippers can be used to strip the old finish off. You can also use a heat gun to strip the old finish or a paint scraper. I used a combination of all three methods. Be careful. The stripping solution can wick under tape applied to the bulkheads and damage the bottom half inch or so of finish. I ended up eventually putting molding around the cabin to hide damage caused this way.
When the finish wears, dirt can work its way into the venire. Once the wood gets a dirt stain, it is very difficult to clean up. The holly strips seem to show dirt most. A 2-part teak cleaner can help clean the teak, but it doesn’t seem to help the holly. You can’t really sand any of it because its too thin. (you can sand a little bit with fine sandpaper if you are careful) I suggest examining what you have carefully before spening a great deal of time stripping the finish. You may find that the sole is not in good enough condition to restore. Its disappointing to spend a great deal of time refinishing the sole to have it come out poorly. That’s where mine was. I ended up replacing the sole in the aft half of the cabin and just refinishing the forward half.
http://www.richardcarter.net/boat/sole/
I used Ultimate Sole and had great results. At first, I had very poor success getting the finish to dry. It turned out that the stuff won’t dry if its cold. Here in the Northeast, you can’t really get the cabin sole warm enough during the winter.
After stripping the sole, I vacuumed the cabin and let the dust settle. I then wiped the cabin sole down with denatured alcohol. I then used Minwax sanding sealer to seal the woodwork followed by two generous coats of Ultimate Sole. A single quart should be enough to refinish your sole.
Rich
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Tor
The boat speed figures under power are from timed runs in both directions with a clean bottom and little or no wind. I double-checked the fuel consumption figure. Max fuel consumption is about 4.3 gal/hr, not 5 gal/hr. This is based on Yanmar’s specifications on fuel consumption at full load. I doubt that I could load the engine enough to consume this much fuel. I don’t think I’ll ever run the boat that hard for any distance to be able to measure it. I do run the engine hard for about 20 minutes every 10 hrs of operation as suggested in the owner’s manual.Regards
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Sad to see one go for such a cheap price. I wonder if there’s something wrong with it. A bad W60 engine might drive the cost down $20k. It would cost more than that to replace however. Maybe its a sign of the poor economy. I bet nothings selling.
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Yes, I can run at 7.8 kts at full throttle. It burns about 5gal/hr
however. The boat can be pushed to about 7.3 kts with little effort. Any
more than that starts to suck the fuel down. The stern wave starts to climb
up the transom, completely submerging the exhaust outlet. I suspect that
the boat’s actual hull speed is 7.3kts and I’m plowing to get 7.8kts.
Theoretical hull speed and actual hull speed may differ considerably.I’ve sailed the boat at 7.8kts or maybe a little faster many times. It will
do about 8kts downwind in a blow. The boat squats. I think this causes the
waterline to get longer.I’ve reached at about the same speed in a blow, but when the boat is heeled,
it has a longer waterline.Rich
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Tor
Its a 44lb bruce with about 150′ of 3/8ht chain. The chain needs replacement after 23 years. I’m hesitant right now to go out and spend money on the boat unless I can’t avoid it. I’m sure I’m not alone in this regard. I’m going to inspect the chain this spring and see if I can get another year out of it.Rich
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Mine came with a single anchor roller and manual windlass. As far as I can remember, the roller was on the starboard side. I moved the roller to the port side and replaced the manual windlass with electric. The reason for moving the roller was that I wanted to use a Bruce anchor and the special Bruce roller needed to align with the gypsy. I suspect that the windlass was an option, but I think the roller was standard.
I don’t recommend leaving an anchor line over the roller when at anchor. If you use chain, a chain hook with a line run through the chock is safer. If you use line, I think it safer to pull the line through the chock and tie it to a cleat. Just use the roller when setting and retrieving the anchor. You can get several hundred pounds of tension on the anchor rhode; even more in a full storm. Just imagine what would happen if you placed that weight on your roller or anchor platform. Would your roller hold up if you perhaps put the weight of a compact car on it?
I’ve since read reports that claim that the Bruce isn’t all that good an anchor. Odd, since I’ve had very good success with it. I wouldn’t consider it a storm anchor, but for every day use its worked well for me. As I said above, the reason I selected it was that it locks in the roller and won’t bounce around in a seaway. I still tie it off to be safe anyway.
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Here’s where it comes from
A farmer buys several pigs, hoping to breed them for ham, bacon. After several weeks, he notices that none of the pigs are getting pregnant, and calls a vet for help. The vet tells the farmer that he should try artificial insemination. The farmer doesn’t have the slightest idea what this means but, not wanting to display his ignorance, only asks the vet how he will know when the pigs are pregnant.
The vet tells him that they will stop standing around and will, instead. lay down and wallow in the mud when they are pregnant.The farmer hangs up and gives it some thought. He comes to the conclusion that artificial insemination means he has to impregnate the pigs. So, he loads the pigs into his truck. drives them out into the woods. has sex with them all, brings them back and goes to bed.
Next morning, he wakes and looks out at the pigs. Seeing that they are all still standing around. he concludes that the first try didn’t take, and loads them in the truck again. He drives them out to the woods, banged each pig twice for good measure, brings them back and goes to bed.
Next morning, he wakes to find the pigs still just standing around. One more try, he tells himself. and proceeds to load them up and drive them out to the woods. He spends all day shagging the pigs and, upon returning home. falls listlessly into bed.
The next morning, he cannot even raise himself from the bed to look at the pigs. He asks his wife to look out and tell him if the pigs are laying in the mud. “No.” she says. “they’re all in the truck and one of them is honking the horn.”
Rich
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Holy smokes, that’s a good price. If you purchase the sails, would you please send out some close up photos of the sail construction. E.g., photos of the mainsail head, slides, and battens and photos of the sails when set in a moderate breeze? Also, the 424 site has a place to link favorite vendors. If it works out, would you please link there?
Rich
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