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Welcome! My wife and I have a P424 Cutter and added both a Air Head composting head (love it, would never go back to a holding tank) and LiFePo4 batteries. We built our own 12v 600AH battery pack from CALB cells and they are a game changer. There is a bit of a learning curve to make sure you get the maximum lifespan but we’d also never go back to lead-acid unless I wasn’t a full time sailor.
You can see the before and after here.
This wasn’t quite finished so excuse the lack of cable organization.
Vigari, who is lurking around here somewhere, also went full electric propulsion with custom drop-in LiFePO4s direct from China.
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Bryan Bywalec
S/V Pelican, Hull 209
Siren Engineering, LLCMy W58 has a Velvet Drive as that is 1:1. The gearing happens in the V-drive. The original Walter RV-20 is listed as a 2:1 gear ratio.
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Bryan Bywalec
S/V Pelican, Hull 209
Siren Engineering, LLCI got a three blade flex-0-fold. After much back and forth with the vendor we settled on a 18×12-3 L bladeset, there is some discussion in the forums about this as well:
Response #1:
“I have a Wester 58; and replaced the original 3 bladed prop with a flexofold; and, am satisfied with the flexofold prop. Jack, the US contact for flexofold recommended an 18 X 12 – 3LH; and this was too much prop (eng would not reach 3003 rpm, smoked excessively at wot). I downsized; cant find the paperwork, but I believe to a 17 X 11; and, for my boat it is the correct size.Response #2:
“Our original was 20X13, same as listed in the 424 sales brochure. I always had the impression we were somewhat over-propped. WOT gave us somewhat less than the spec 3000 RPM, and a lot of black smoke. We changed to a 18X11 flex o fold, and it seems to be about right. Certainly not too weak. However, I was cautioned by flex o fold to not compare their prop to other props vis a vis the diameter and pitch. No usable correlation.”
Note that you can try the flex-o-fold for one week and then return it. Obviously not the easiest thing to take off in the water but you might even just be able to return the blades. I worked with Csilla B. Rasmussen, cbr@flexofold.com. The exact engine specifications and transmission ratio are very important.
So far I’ve been very happy with the prop.
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Bryan Bywalec
S/V Pelican, Hull 209
Siren Engineering, LLCAs per the e-mail I sent you the hull number that someone else suggested appears to be correct per the USCG PSIX search page. From there I saw she has a Passenger (Uninspected) designation rather than Recreational so I figured she was offered for crewed charter somewhere… If you’d like to step foot on her again: http://www.royalcrustaceancharters.com/
Bryan
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Bryan Bywalec
S/V Pelican, Hull 209
Siren Engineering, LLCEduardo,
List has been updated. As per e-mail if you let me know what engine she has I’ll add that to the registry as well.
Regards,
Bryan
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Bryan Bywalec
S/V Pelican, Hull 209
Siren Engineering, LLCChris,
I’ve taken over updating the site. If you have corrections please e-mail them to info@pearson424.org.
Bryan Bywalec
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Bryan Bywalec
S/V Pelican, Hull 209
Siren Engineering, LLCFor just a heater, Dickinson makes a small solid fuel heater targeted towards smaller 20′ to 25′ vessels that you could use in the morning and mount somewhere unobtrusive. Newport Solid Fuel Heater. It only handles a small amount of wood at a time. For a proper wood stove install you’ll have to tear out part of the cabin methinks. I’ve never seen it on a 424 but if you google “sailboat wood stove” there are plenty of examples.
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Bryan Bywalec
S/V Pelican, Hull 209
Siren Engineering, LLCScary stuff, thanks for sharing. I try and do a leak down test on the system once a month but obviously it only takes one time with a sudden leak to bring on disaster. Was it just coincidence that it ignited when she went to operate the solenoid? Was the source of ignition the stove itself?
We recently installed a detector that alarms and shuts off the solenoid below the stove but I do worry about the line running through some spaces that are hard to inspect.
Best wishes for a speedy recovery, thanks again for sharing. I see people get complacent with their propane systems and always good to be reminded that it, 120V power and gasoline are three very real dangers on a boat.
– Bryan
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Bryan Bywalec
S/V Pelican, Hull 209
Siren Engineering, LLCI can’t seem to get on their project summary through the 424 site.
Looks like the Regina wesbite is now offline. You can find a summary of the projects using the waybackmachine from the internet archive here: https://web.archive.org/web/20190814093108/http://dublerfamily.com/Regina_oceani/Regina_Oceani.html
I’ll update the 424 site and try and get permission to republish that page here…
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Bryan Bywalec
S/V Pelican, Hull 209
Siren Engineering, LLCAttached is a photo of my arch with a tape measure pulled out three feet for reference. I also overlayed the two photos and it doesn’t look like the arch-in-a-box sized for a cutter/sloop will work with the ketch rig.
However, another user sent me a picture of his ketch with an arch that looks like what you want. I sent you both an e-mail to put you in touch and included the photo here.
Lastly, Rich sent his solar davit solution as another option.
I actually had trouble posting these photos myself… who runs this website? 🙂
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Bryan Bywalec
S/V Pelican, Hull 209
Siren Engineering, LLCAttachments:
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Attached is a photo of my arch with a tape measure pulled out three feet for reference. I also overlayed the two photos and it doesn’t look like the arch-in-a-box sized for a cutter/sloop will work with the ketch rig.
However, another user sent me a picture of his ketch with an arch that looks like what you want. I sent you both an e-mail to put you in touch and included the photo here.
Lastly, Rich sent his solar davit solution as another option.
I actually had trouble posting these photos myself… who runs this website? 🙂
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Bryan Bywalec
S/V Pelican, Hull 209
Siren Engineering, LLCAttachments:
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Attached is a picture of what our arch looks like (with tape measure in the photo for reference). I also tried to overlay the photo you sent. It isn’t super accurate but you’ll see that the traditional arch-in-a-box size for a single mast 424 is going to interfere with the mizzen.
Another user sent me a picture of the arch on his boat that does clear the mizzen. I think the trick here is that one of the sets of feet are actually on the transom rather than the sides moving the arch aft far enough to clear the mizzen. I’ll try to put you guys in touch.
Lastly There is a photo of Rich Harris’ solar panels on davits under his mizzen to give you another option.
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Bryan Bywalec
S/V Pelican, Hull 209
Siren Engineering, LLCAttachments:
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Attached is a picture of what our arch looks like (with tape measure in the photo for reference). I also tried to overlay the photo you sent. It isn’t super accurate but you’ll see that the traditional arch-in-a-box size for a single mast 424 is going to interfere with the mizzen.
Another user sent me a picture of the arch on his boat that does clear the mizzen. I think the trick here is that one of the sets of feet are actually on the transom rather than the sides moving the arch aft far enough to clear the mizzen. I’ll try to put you guys in touch.
Lastly There is a photo of Rich Harris’ solar panels on davits under his mizzen to give you another option.
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Bryan Bywalec
S/V Pelican, Hull 209
Siren Engineering, LLCAttachments:
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Take a profile picture of the transom, if you put a tape measure pulled out 3′ or so I can scale it. I’ll overlay the same picture of my boat and you can get an idea of what you are up against. Probably best to e-mail the picture at bryan@iwouldsaygo.com
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Bryan Bywalec
S/V Pelican, Hull 209
Siren Engineering, LLCThere are a few 424’s with the Arch in a Box, I think they are all sloops or cutters though. Our boat – the cutter Pelican – has one. How far does the mizzen stick out from the transom. The froward cross bar of the arch is just about even with the transom in our case.
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Bryan Bywalec
S/V Pelican, Hull 209
Siren Engineering, LLC
