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  • in reply to: diesel to electric motor conversion? #226007
    Bryan Bywalec
    Keymaster

    I am very interested in Beta’s new Hybrid offering. Sort of like going electric with a generator but all in one package. Only drawback is the lack of flexibility in mounting the engine remotely

    Keel Cooled Hybrid Propulsion

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    Bryan Bywalec
    S/V Pelican, Hull 209
    Siren Engineering, LLC

    in reply to: Used sail #225997
    Bryan Bywalec
    Keymaster

    I have a good condition North 135 ($400), a new 1 1/2oz symmetrical spinnaker ($800), a poor condition laminate drifter and a poor condition Dacron staysail (throw in with other sails!) for sale – all from a 424 cutter. Measurements, pictures, etc on request.
    Bob Kriegel, bkriegel@panhandle.rr.com; or 850 455-7695

    Please don’t respond here but contact the above information directly!

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    Bryan Bywalec
    S/V Pelican, Hull 209
    Siren Engineering, LLC

    in reply to: Mast Tang Replacement #225984
    Bryan Bywalec
    Keymaster

    The nut turned out to be pretty easy. The punch marks between the nut and the bolt provided some resistance but it turned with a wrench and came off. The four screws above that bolt were another story. After trying everything… soaking in penetrating oil, blow torch, impact screw driver… then I got serious and brought my grinder up there. I ground off the heads of the screws and then pulled the tang off. I was then able to grab what was remaining of the screws with vise-grips and get them out. Stainless into aluminum is a nightmare.

    However, it turns out the replacement tangs, which looked very close to identical, were not exactly identical and the bolt holes didn’t line up perfectly. I swapped port and starboard (the bolt holes are mirrored) and drilled and tapped new holes. I replaced the slotted screws with hex head bolts so that the next owner can get some torque on them when they need changing in another 40 years. I used loctite blue on the four upper bolts and loctite red on the nut.

    Overall it would have been a relatively easy project if I had just went straight to the grinder when the screws were seized in the aluminum. The other side isn’t cracked but I’m going to replace it anyway sometime soon.

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    Bryan Bywalec
    S/V Pelican, Hull 209
    Siren Engineering, LLC

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    in reply to: New Owner Hull #122 #225974
    Bryan Bywalec
    Keymaster

    I would be interested in seeing Miss Kathleen’s hard dodger photos but the link to Google Plus is no longer active. Does anyone have them?

    Took a little bit but I did eventually get the photos. I’ve added them to the new Dodger article on the wiki.

    https://wiki.pearson424.org/index.php/Dodger

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    Bryan Bywalec
    S/V Pelican, Hull 209
    Siren Engineering, LLC

    in reply to: Nav station workstation light #225953
    Bryan Bywalec
    Keymaster

    In an effort to get all my bulbs the same I bought a bunch of two prong fixtures with leads and solder them to the bayonet fittings and then glue the fixture to the top of the bayonet.

    You can get very bright two prong led lights.

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    Bryan Bywalec
    S/V Pelican, Hull 209
    Siren Engineering, LLC

    in reply to: Mast collar #225930
    Bryan Bywalec
    Keymaster

    RigRite is a great source for both off-the-shelf and custom replacement. They don’t have any listed specifically for the 424s but they can offer suggestions.

    Rig Rite Deck Collars

    Perhaps others have sources local to NC.

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    Bryan Bywalec
    S/V Pelican, Hull 209
    Siren Engineering, LLC

    in reply to: Grunert Baysider Manual #225923
    Bryan Bywalec
    Keymaster

    I believe the original design had it plumbing the flow thru condenser into the intake side of the engine’s raw water cooling circuit.

    “The flow thru condenser is connected to the inlet side of the engine’s seawater system circuit. It should be mounted as close to vertical as practical. The sea water enters the bottom of the condenser and exits through the top. Use of water fittings of the same size or larger as the existing water supply to the engine are recommended. Reinforced marine grade hose should be used for the seawater circuit, and all fit-tings are to be double-clamped. Caution:Condenser must be connect-ed to the vessels bonding circuit.”

    Caribbean Engine Drive Belt Models

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    Bryan Bywalec
    S/V Pelican, Hull 209
    Siren Engineering, LLC

    in reply to: Cored hulls? #225915
    Bryan Bywalec
    Keymaster

    The best place to look for a core on a Plan C is under the sink in the forward head. The portion of the hull under the water is cored and somewhere up the side it transitions to solid glass. You don’t want a core at the deck to hull connection. Replacing a thru-hull or other existing hole in the hull won’t tell you if it is cored as the core should be removed around all penetrations. I’ll post a picture of the tell tale transition tomorrow.

    I think this is a good subject to introduce what I think is the next generation of this website. I’ve started a wiki for Pearson424s at wiki.pearson424.org. I’ll be able to record our conversations into a repository of information that is more searchable.

    https://wiki.pearson424.org/index.php/Hull_Layup

    I’ll be searching through the posts and adding information I find about the hull layup tonight and tomorrow. If you have drilled a hole in previously undisturbed parts of your hull and measured the thickness of the layup… send pictures and location?

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    Bryan Bywalec
    S/V Pelican, Hull 209
    Siren Engineering, LLC

    in reply to: Cored hulls? #225896
    Bryan Bywalec
    Keymaster

    It depends on the year. Our 1983 Plan C Cutter has a cored hull. Older hulls are solid. We only found a small area of delamination and had it repaired. There was no water intrusion or rot, it was probably a void in the lay up from the factory that we found after an extensive survey. Other than that we haven’t had any issues with it.

    As for how to tell? Cored hulls typically have a transition somewhere along the side where the cored portion begins, if it is the same thickness all the way up it is more likely to be solid. You can also inspect around thru-hulls to see if they cut away the core and made it solid fiberglass. This would point to having a core.

    As for opinion on a cored hull? If we could trade our hull for a solid core we might… but as long as the boat has been taken care of (i.e. regular haul outs, well installed thru-hulls) and a good hull survey doesn’t show any problems I wouldn’t make it a deal breaker. They are actually stronger per pound or lighter per unit strength depending on what the designers went for…

    Regards,

    Bryan Bywalec
    S/V Pelican

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    Bryan Bywalec
    S/V Pelican, Hull 209
    Siren Engineering, LLC

    in reply to: New Owner Hull #122 #225886
    Bryan Bywalec
    Keymaster

    Welcome! My wife and I have a P424 Cutter and added both a Air Head composting head (love it, would never go back to a holding tank) and LiFePo4 batteries. We built our own 12v 600AH battery pack from CALB cells and they are a game changer. There is a bit of a learning curve to make sure you get the maximum lifespan but we’d also never go back to lead-acid unless I wasn’t a full time sailor.

    You can see the before and after here.

    This wasn’t quite finished so excuse the lack of cable organization.

    Vigari, who is lurking around here somewhere, also went full electric propulsion with custom drop-in LiFePO4s direct from China.

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    Bryan Bywalec
    S/V Pelican, Hull 209
    Siren Engineering, LLC

    in reply to: thinking of getting folding prop #225862
    Bryan Bywalec
    Keymaster

    My W58 has a Velvet Drive as that is 1:1. The gearing happens in the V-drive. The original Walter RV-20 is listed as a 2:1 gear ratio.

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    Bryan Bywalec
    S/V Pelican, Hull 209
    Siren Engineering, LLC

    in reply to: thinking of getting folding prop #225822
    Bryan Bywalec
    Keymaster

    I got a three blade flex-0-fold. After much back and forth with the vendor we settled on a 18×12-3 L bladeset, there is some discussion in the forums about this as well:

    Response #1:
    “I have a Wester 58; and replaced the original 3 bladed prop with a flexofold; and, am satisfied with the flexofold prop. Jack, the US contact for flexofold recommended an 18 X 12 – 3LH; and this was too much prop (eng would not reach 3003 rpm, smoked excessively at wot). I downsized; cant find the paperwork, but I believe to a 17 X 11; and, for my boat it is the correct size.

    Response #2:

    “Our original was 20X13, same as listed in the 424 sales brochure. I always had the impression we were somewhat over-propped. WOT gave us somewhat less than the spec 3000 RPM, and a lot of black smoke. We changed to a 18X11 flex o fold, and it seems to be about right. Certainly not too weak. However, I was cautioned by flex o fold to not compare their prop to other props vis a vis the diameter and pitch. No usable correlation.”

    Note that you can try the flex-o-fold for one week and then return it. Obviously not the easiest thing to take off in the water but you might even just be able to return the blades. I worked with Csilla B. Rasmussen, cbr@flexofold.com. The exact engine specifications and transmission ratio are very important.

    So far I’ve been very happy with the prop.

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    Bryan Bywalec
    S/V Pelican, Hull 209
    Siren Engineering, LLC

    in reply to: Looking for our family 424 Irish Wake #225802
    Bryan Bywalec
    Keymaster

    As per the e-mail I sent you the hull number that someone else suggested appears to be correct per the USCG PSIX search page. From there I saw she has a Passenger (Uninspected) designation rather than Recreational so I figured she was offered for crewed charter somewhere… If you’d like to step foot on her again: http://www.royalcrustaceancharters.com/

    Bryan

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    Bryan Bywalec
    S/V Pelican, Hull 209
    Siren Engineering, LLC

    in reply to: Hull 144 new owner #225798
    Bryan Bywalec
    Keymaster

    Eduardo,

    List has been updated. As per e-mail if you let me know what engine she has I’ll add that to the registry as well.

    Regards,

    Bryan

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    Bryan Bywalec
    S/V Pelican, Hull 209
    Siren Engineering, LLC

    in reply to: Anybody updating the registry anymore? #225794
    Bryan Bywalec
    Keymaster

    Chris,

    I’ve taken over updating the site. If you have corrections please e-mail them to info@pearson424.org.

    Bryan Bywalec
    S/V Pelican

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    Bryan Bywalec
    S/V Pelican, Hull 209
    Siren Engineering, LLC

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