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Hi,

In the event I acquire a girlfriend before then, there will be two for me. Otherwise, I'll just have to eat and drink twice as much.

Bob

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Oops, sorry, Alan. See above. Or below.

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Robert Fine < ([email][/email])> wrote:

Hi Tor,

Here you go – http://www.greenboatstuff.com/danospfuresy.html

I think I'll get one.

Bob

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 1:43 PM, alan P < ([email][/email])> wrote:

OK, ya got me…. what is a vent whistle? I am sure it
goes in the vent, but after that…..I am not sure
alan

— Aaron Lynch < ([email][/email])> wrote:

I replaced the whole port with a stainless model
with plate glass which I
picked up at minney¹s for $20. It was an impulse
type deal, saw the thing
for sale and thought ³I can use that and it¹s a good
price.²

SO I ended up slightly enlarging the hole and
installing the new one.

Then, I ended up also installing a vent whistle
(which I think is the best
thing I ever bought BTW), so now I almost never look
at the gauge.

On 4/22/08 5:59 AM, John Stevenson wrote :

Rodd,
On Sarah the sight glass was removable. Just a

Beckson deck plate with clear

plastic cover. Well, it was clear at one time –

long before I owned the boat.

However, since it was removable it didn't really

matter how clear it was. A

couple of summer's ago the frame for the deck

plate cracked and I had to

replace it. The only thing available at the time

(this was in Cartagena,

Spain) was an opaque deck plate, which is what is

fitted in Sarah's cockpit

today.
Of course even with the deck plate cover removed

it was still very difficult

to read the gauge as it had become even more

cloudy than that the old “clear”

sight glass.
If your sight glass is not removable and you have

to replace it you might

consider getting a sturdy removable deck plate

(clear or opaque). The drawback

to a removable cover is that inevitably some water

will get on the top of the

tank and have to be sponged up periodically.

John

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Joseph Steiner

< ([email][/email])> wrote:

yes, it's a bitch. I haven't replaced mine, but a
trick I use is to make it wet with a film of

water and

shine a flashlight through it to see the gauge. I
don't need to do it often, so it's not so onerous

a

task. Try to sail as much as possible.

Joe,
Half Moon.
— Rodd Leeds < ([email][/email])> wrote:

has anyone replaced the plastic in the fuel

gauge

sight glass in the cockpit sole? I can barely

see

the gauge through the lexan and would like to
replace it. I removed the aluminum ring from

the

cockpit, but I can't figure out how to get the

lexan

out. The bottom ring which I thought was a

rubber

gasket seems to be made of metal as well. Any

ideas

would be appreciated.

Rodd Leeds

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Hi Tor,

Here you go – http://www.greenboatstuff.com/danospfuresy.html

I think I'll get one.

Bob

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 1:43 PM, alan P < ([email][/email])> wrote:

OK, ya got me…. what is a vent whistle? I am sure it
goes in the vent, but after that…..I am not sure
alan

— Aaron Lynch < ([email][/email])> wrote:

I replaced the whole port with a stainless model
with plate glass which I
picked up at minney¹s for $20. It was an impulse
type deal, saw the thing
for sale and thought ³I can use that and it¹s a good
price.²

SO I ended up slightly enlarging the hole and
installing the new one.

Then, I ended up also installing a vent whistle
(which I think is the best
thing I ever bought BTW), so now I almost never look
at the gauge.

On 4/22/08 5:59 AM, John Stevenson wrote :

Rodd,
On Sarah the sight glass was removable. Just a

Beckson deck plate with clear

plastic cover. Well, it was clear at one time –

long before I owned the boat.

However, since it was removable it didn't really

matter how clear it was. A

couple of summer's ago the frame for the deck

plate cracked and I had to

replace it. The only thing available at the time

(this was in Cartagena,

Spain) was an opaque deck plate, which is what is

fitted in Sarah's cockpit

today.
Of course even with the deck plate cover removed

it was still very difficult

to read the gauge as it had become even more

cloudy than that the old “clear”

sight glass.
If your sight glass is not removable and you have

to replace it you might

consider getting a sturdy removable deck plate

(clear or opaque). The drawback

to a removable cover is that inevitably some water

will get on the top of the

tank and have to be sponged up periodically.

John

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Joseph Steiner

< ([email][/email])> wrote:

yes, it's a bitch. I haven't replaced mine, but a
trick I use is to make it wet with a film of

water and

shine a flashlight through it to see the gauge. I
don't need to do it often, so it's not so onerous

a

task. Try to sail as much as possible.

Joe,
Half Moon.
— Rodd Leeds < ([email][/email])> wrote:

has anyone replaced the plastic in the fuel

gauge

sight glass in the cockpit sole? I can barely

see

the gauge through the lexan and would like to
replace it. I removed the aluminum ring from

the

cockpit, but I can't figure out how to get the

lexan

out. The bottom ring which I thought was a

rubber

gasket seems to be made of metal as well. Any

ideas

would be appreciated.

Rodd Leeds

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Hi,

When I got Pelican, the PO had used silicone to bed the plate and I had to remove all that – it turns out that after cleaning up the lexan with a buffer and Flitz, it was fine. The aluminum retaining ring wasn't so much of a ring as a lump of metal. But that said, the gauge on the top of the tank is replaceable. It's 14.95 list at most marine stores (I got mine from Bridge Marine on City Island, Bronx, NY) The two screws come off and it's a little puck like thing.

The sensor is sealed from the meter. The whole thing is really pretty cool.

Anyway, once the thing is sealed properly to the deck there shouldn't be any water on the tank. If you do have rust there, use some of that converter stuff from an autoparts store (for converting fender rust), and then paint with epoxy based paint.

Tada!

Bob

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Rick Dugger < ([email][/email])> wrote:

My sight glass was cloudy and just sitting in the hole. No trouble removing it. I enlarged the hole (easier to get access) and installed an opaque deck plate. Installed electric sender/fuel gauge.

Rick
Eclipse #73

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Just so I have an idea how long I have before falling apart – how old are you?

Thanks!

Bob

On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Joseph Steiner < ([email][/email])> wrote:

Well just be thankful you are not a horse..they would
put you down…Sucks to get old..but at least the
injury is far from the heart.

Joe
S/V Half Moon,
at anchor, Antigua, BWI

— alan P < ([email][/email])> wrote:

OK, so I was leaning over into the ice box trying to
bend the copper tubing when, POP, went the bicep in
my
right arm. Been 3 weeks and I still have trouble
lift
a pot of coffee let alone turn a wench. Even going
to
the bathroom is a chore. (guys joke). Going to see a
doctor this week, I am extremely worried about the
upcoming season and my winching arm.
Sucks to get old and stupid at the same time.
Rum and Vocodin anyone? Although even that hurts as
I
am a right hand drinker.
alan

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Hi Chuck,

From your description, I’d almost bet they’re zincs. I’m going to check mine when I get back from Texas.

Thanks for the info!

Bob

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Hi Aaron

There are 1-1/2″ vented loops for heads. There are also 1″ vented loops. My suggestion is to adapt the 1-1/8″ to 1-1/2 and use for the rest of the line. Your suggestion for the whole system is a really good one!

Bob

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Aaron Lynch < ([email][/email])> wrote:

I am redoing all of the bilge pumps/hoses on Ra.

Currently, I have 3 thru-hulls, about 10″ above the water line where the 2 electrics and the manual exit.

I thought it would be prudent to install a vented loop high in the transom, to eliminate the possibility of water siphoning in the even that the boat taking on water lowered the thru-hulls, bad following seas etc.

Here’s my problem, the larger (2000gph) electric pump uses 1 1/8″ hose, and I can’t seem to find a vented loop in that size (or even close)

How would you-all recommend tackling this problem?

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Hi Walter – you said the magic words – your packing gland is normally above the water line. Mine isn't (it's leaking which is a dead giveaway). I'm going to transfer all chain to forward of mast and move tools so that it comes up for repacking.

The battery thing you did is beautiful, though, and obviously well thought out.

Thanks,

Bob

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Walter Piescik < ([email][/email])> wrote:

Quote:

Thanks for the nice words, Alan.

Yes, Robert, I have an autopilot, but it is mounted to the very top of the
rudder post. The hydraulic ram is nestled between the fuel tank and the
cockpit sole. The loads on the top of the rudder post are counterbalanced
using a contraption of my own design that is …wait for it…patent
pending.

Access to rudder post stuffing will require moving batteries out of the way
if you were to install 6 batteries. I think you could still service it
without moving batteries if you only have 4 batteries back there. Mine does
not need much attention, as it is normally above waterline.

The other down side is access to check the water level in the batteries;
everything has trade-offs.

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Good luck! Have fun. This will be one of the least expensive jobs you do.

Bob

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Eric Lorentzon < ([email][/email])> wrote:

Quote:

Running low on boat units….. Will try the cutout an add traveler to the want list (It was already there actually).

Robert Fine < ([email][/email])> wrote:

Quote:

I agree – check out Garhauer. They've made a number of travelers for the 424.

Bob

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:59 PM, < ([email][/email])> wrote:

Quote:

Eric
You're flogging a dead horse there. The original traveler that Pearson used was a piece of junk. If you can afford a boat unit, you might consider replacing it as long as you are planing to work on it.

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I agree – check out Garhauer. They've made a number of travelers for the 424.

Bob

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Eric
You're flogging a dead horse there. The original traveler that Pearson used was a piece of junk. If you can afford a boat unit, you might consider replacing it as long as you are planing to work on it.

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Hi Eric,

Many other owners have made a cut in the pylons that allow access to the inside. By cutting about 1″ from the edges on the outboard ends, you should be able to use a saber saw and then reach in. To finish the raw metal edges, you can purchase edging from an auto parts store or from Defenders.

Bob

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Eric Lorentzon < ([email][/email])> wrote:

The little white “pulleys” on my traveler are disintegrating. Yesterday I tried to unscrew them but had no luck – even with PB blaster and a good impact driver. The screws just turned.
Is my assumption correct that I have to remove the traveler from the deck to get at a nut on the backsides?

Thanks – Eric

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There is no way. All I can say is when the cover comes off, projects are put on back burner while I sail.

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:25 PM, alan P < ([email][/email])> wrote:

been there…. how can we make sailing any more fun?

— Robert Fine < ([email][/email])> wrote:

I know how you feel – I had to wrestle the head
discharge hose to a
different point necessitating disconnecting the
joker valve housing, pulling
the hose up 1 ring at a time through sheer force,
then when able, pulling it
back down to fit the holding tank top.

Yuck.

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:27 PM, alan P
< ([email][/email])> wrote:

I spent yesterday replacing the 1.5″ hose for the
port midship deck drain. The one that goes through

the

galley shelves and ends up under the aft bunk.
I once wrestled a 400 lb grizzly bear and didn't

feel

as bruised and as beat up as I do today….
Glad I did it though because as I gently twisted

the

hose at the thru-hull, the hose just gave out. The
bottom side where you could not see was rotten and

the

wires inside were all rusted out…. another

disaster

avoided.

a

— Robert Fine < ([email][/email])> wrote:

Hi Alan,

Glad we can amuse you. We weren't sailing last
Monday. I, for one, was
upside down in the bilge replumbing my new

holding

tank. Or something else
equally nasty.

But good to hear from you!

Bob

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< ([email][/email])> wrote:

I just wanted to let every one know how nice

this

MOnday is compared to last Monday.
Last Monday it was quiet here…no one was

sending

any

posts. I couldn't help but think maybe every

one

else

was out sailing and I was stuck working or

what

ever

it is I do here…. online most of time

reading

sailing forums.
SO…. glad everyone is back…
alan

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I know how you feel – I had to wrestle the head discharge hose to a different point necessitating disconnecting the joker valve housing, pulling the hose up 1 ring at a time through sheer force, then when able, pulling it back down to fit the holding tank top.

Yuck.

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:27 PM, alan P < ([email][/email])> wrote:

I spent yesterday replacing the 1.5″ hose for the
port midship deck drain. The one that goes through the
galley shelves and ends up under the aft bunk.
I once wrestled a 400 lb grizzly bear and didn't feel
as bruised and as beat up as I do today….
Glad I did it though because as I gently twisted the
hose at the thru-hull, the hose just gave out. The
bottom side where you could not see was rotten and the
wires inside were all rusted out…. another disaster
avoided.

a

— Robert Fine < ([email][/email])> wrote:

Hi Alan,

Glad we can amuse you. We weren't sailing last
Monday. I, for one, was
upside down in the bilge replumbing my new holding
tank. Or something else
equally nasty.

But good to hear from you!

Bob

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:09 PM, alan P
< ([email][/email])> wrote:

I just wanted to let every one know how nice this
MOnday is compared to last Monday.
Last Monday it was quiet here…no one was sending

any

posts. I couldn't help but think maybe every one

else

was out sailing and I was stuck working or what

ever

it is I do here…. online most of time reading
sailing forums.
SO…. glad everyone is back…
alan

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Hi Alan,

Glad we can amuse you. We weren't sailing last Monday. I, for one, was upside down in the bilge replumbing my new holding tank. Or something else equally nasty.

But good to hear from you!

Bob

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:09 PM, alan P < ([email][/email])> wrote:

I just wanted to let every one know how nice this
MOnday is compared to last Monday.
Last Monday it was quiet here…no one was sending any
posts. I couldn't help but think maybe every one else
was out sailing and I was stuck working or what ever
it is I do here…. online most of time reading
sailing forums.
SO…. glad everyone is back…
alan

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Hi Tor,

I have a devil of a time finding things I've just put down, let alone put away. 🙂

Thanks, John, I will be using asap, as well.

Bob

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Silver Heels < ([email][/email])> wrote:

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Will do, John. Looking forward to it! I have the devil of a time finding things now without any sort of locker inventory. Yours is going to solve the problem once and for all.

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