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What’s bacon Spaniard? If I knew I might add it to my rules which are
essentially the same as Regina Oceani’s. And you guys laughed when I first
mentioned the sitting to use the head rule. What’s up with that?On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Alan wrote:
With the exception of #6, I am sure we all have similar rules.
Being a singlehander I know I have occasional bent my own rules. No one
around…. Whose gonna know…
Just saying…I guess it just takes once!
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On Jul 17, 2013, at 9:33 PM, pete wrote:
Standing orders aboard s/v Regina Oceani:
1: while on watch, don’t run into anything
2: no peeing over the side
3: all crew shall sit while using the head
4: orders 2 & 3 go double for females on board
5: it is always ok to awaken the skipper if you have any doubts orconcerns
6: there will be no cooking of bacon Spaniard (one smell that definitely
makes me sea sick)
7: all crew shall wear pfd/harness when going forward after dark (and
most other times while underway)
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Good to know. Thanks, Rich!
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:33 AM, wrote:
Quote:I use the same Zinc based spray paint on my stainless prop. I follow with
a coat of tin based outdrive spray paint. This keeps growth off the prop.
The outdrive paint seems to adhere better if I first coat with the zinc
spray paint. The zinc paint alone works OK but not as well as the tin
paint.Rich
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The whole ‘forcing water into the engine’ thing is, in my mind, bs. The
amount of pressure required to force water through the whole system
including the raw water pump is ridiculously high. By that I mean 10s of
pounds per square inch – far more than you could ever generate moving at 8
knots through the water. There are boats that use speed through the water
to cool engines but they move very fast and have very large scoops.But I could be wrong.
Bob
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:56 PM, John Stevenson wrote:
Rich,
I agree, going with the round (no scoop) screen would not force water into
the system. The yard also said if I put the scoop on backwards (facing
aft) I would not have a problem, but that would defeat the purpose of the
scoop. For now I have left the engine intake un-screened. Again that
advice on the scoop screen may be baseless.I sized the screen such that even when half the screen was clogged by
debris I would still have full flow into my 1-1/2″ thru-hull. I recommend
doing the same with the round screen.
I think you will find that most of the debris that might collect on the
screen will be brushed off once you are underway.
I don’t know which is worse for clogging seawater systems, weeds or sea
nettles, but I am sure the sea nettles are worse to remove. My frig would
suck in 2 or 3 then they would die and turn into super glue. Often they
didn’t get to the strainer and just die in the hose from the valve. With
the screen on this intake I’ve never had a sea nettle clog the system.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:31 PM, wrote:
Thanks John,
I see two types of screens, one is round and the other is scooped. I see
no mounting instructions so I don’t know which way the scoop is supposedto
face. If I put the round type on, I don’t see how it could force water
into the system. I’m not convinced that it won’t still get weed caughtin
it and eventually clog. Unlike the raw-water strainer, there is no
convenient way to clean it however. Draggers pull up great clumps ofweed.
This sometimes finds its way into our mooring area. These are big
clumps
Quote:of weed. If I sucked one into even a 1.5 inch intake, I think it might
clog though I might be able to pull the weed through.Rich
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Usually, Dan, all you have to do is email the site with the photo
attached. There’s a 500K limit for each email but if it’s more one of us
(the administrators) can let it pass. We all get an email with the
request. During the day I might be busy so not get to it until later. Pat
might be as well. So it could take some time to get the photo passed.I hope that helps!
Bob
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:25 AM, kalinowski wrote:
Not being the wisest of tech aficionados, what is the process to post
pictures with topics on this site? I can’t seem to find instructions
anywhere.Dan Kalinowski
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Drain and flush transmission. Check transmission cooler. You may have to
remove it and pressurize. If you need a new one, here’s where to get it:
lencocoolers.com. They have all our coolers mostly because they made
them. Nice people to deal with. And you don’t pay the Westerbeke prices.Bob
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Alan wrote:
I would suspect water intrusion. Possibly the transmission heat exchanger.
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On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:33 AM, “Jubilee” wrote:
Put the transmission into gear to leave the mooring this weekend and
didn’t have the forward thrust I thought I should have had with a vibration
that felt like the prop was fouled. Put her back on the mooring and dove
on the prop. Some barnacles, which I thought might have caused some
vibration. Worked the prop a bit and freed it up. Back on board we
started out again. Some vibration still and still short on thrust. Went
sailing anyway. Came back to mooring and checked the transmission, then
the transmission fluid. Oh No! Milky transmission fluid. Any ideas?
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It did.
Bob
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Jul 13, 2013 12:20 PM, “Silverheels” wrote:I’m not sure whether my message below ever got through to the group, so
here’s a repeat:I’ve been offline for a few days, so I just now got my son-in-law’s reply
to
my query about group-rate boat insurance, as follows:================
In response to your email, I can help all of you with yacht insurance.
However, group rates don’t really exist. It would be interesting to find
out
what geographical limitations are on your friend’s policy thru his Allstate
agent. Allstate is not known for writing yachts.Mine is an independent agency. Therefore, I can go to the best and most
competitive markets for your group’s boat insurance needs, not just
Allstate. With that in mind, I’m open to discuss it further.Thanks your interest,
Kenneth D. Keusch
EAC Brokerage, Inc.
171 Madison Avenue
Suite 1315
New York, NY 10016
T: 212.213.2010
F: 212.213.1044
E:================
So, all you insured 424 owners, you’re welcome to pursue this, or not. My
belief is that, while there may be no standard “group rates” offered for
boat insurance, if Ken were to approach his preferred underwriter for this
and say, “What’s your best rate for a dozen policies at once,” then of
course that underwriter is going to respond with the best possible deal for
you. If coverage useful to me and the way I sail were to become available
for what I consider a reasonable premium, I would probably be interested in
joining in. But for now I don’t want to be The Group’s Organizer on this.
Someone more qualified (Thatcher?) might choose to follow up directly with
Ken Keusch. It may save everyone some money. Only one way to find out.Tor
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I used to use the graphite impregnated packing – it ran cool, dry and
forever. Well, years anyway. Then big news! Graphite promotes galvanic
corrosion! Don’t use it! You’ll die! The world will end! You will get
various diseases! You must use the teflon impregnated packing.Long and short of it: Graphite is still good. Runs cool. Doesn’t creep
like teflon. And apparently the whole galvanic corrosion thing is a
non-issue.Bob
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 6:43 PM, quent wrote:
We have had a Lasdrop shaft seal for about a decade with good service. A
couple things to consider.
The seal depends on a carbon ring on the corrugated hose pressing on a
stainless ring on the shaft. It will leak a little, necessary to cool and
lubricate the seal. When launching, it is necessary to burp any air
trapped in the hose to wet the seal and prevent overheating.
The stainless ring seals to the shaft with O-rings. If the shaft is worn
or scored where the O-rings seat, you might need a new shaft.
Said ring is held in place with setscrews. It’s best to back this up with
a hose clamp or a shaft zinc.
If it was a do over, I might go with a traditional stuffing box and more
high tech stuffing, at least Teflon stuff.
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I am of the very humble opinion that old school is the best school. I’ve
seen dripless packing fail and fail spectacularly. What’s more, when they
do you have to remove the shaft to fix them. If your packing goes in an
old school box, you just replace the cheap packing. In an emergency you
can stuff shredded t-shirt in there to minimize water intake.Simple is better. If you remove your shaft to replace the hose, purchase
one of the silicone rubber hoses available for certain at Sailorman in Ft.
Lauderdale.Bob
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Steven Weinberg, Ph.D. wrote:
Quote:I have had one in Whiffler for 10+ years without issue. A colleague of
mine put one on a Pearson 53 and had to replace it with a std shaft seal
while at anchor in Mexico after 3 weeks (obviously put in incorrectly or a
defective part).Steve
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I have a staysail as well and I moved the pulpits a little bit aft and a
little bit outboard so that the sail doesn’t flog on them. I also use a
single line sheet that attaches to the forward bases of the pulpits.Bob
On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:I think that could work, Quent, but you might want to kick it around some
more and see if there’s a way to modify it further. When the boat’s
reaching
on a port tack, the sheeted-out main boom kind of blocks off access to the
starboard pulpit from aft. You can duck or crawl under it, but it can be
awkward, so you tend to go around the forward side of the rail. Also, since
I have a staysail that hoists from the port side of the mast, I sometimes
move between the two mast pulpits around the forward side. And I might
sometimes move between the mast pulpits and the foredeck when weighing
anchor. Otherwise, I tend to enter and exit the mast pulpits more often
from
aft simply because that’s the pathway from/to the cockpit and the main boom
(for furling the mainsail and tying in reef points, etc).If you have access to a bunch of tubing and a pipe bender anyway, and maybe
some small stainless steel plate scraps, you could fabricate a proper mast
pulpit much like the ones we had made and just pay a welder to put the
pieces together. As I said, I have the plans (because I drew them), and
anyone interested is welcome to a copy.Tor
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Hi Lee,
I remember. Also, I remember what your guy wanted for a second set.
Double +. The teak grab rails have 12″ centers, all new manufactured ones
have 10″ centers. I am thinking of replacing mine with Plasteak which
requires no maintenance and from 30 feet away looks like teak, Or
stainless. Hard to tell which.Bob
On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Lee Yonkers wrote:
Quote:I don’t remember what I paid for the handrails but I do remember that they
weren’t too expensive. I had removed the headliner and that made
installation very easy.Lee
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I’m in total agreement as well without having the experience of Tor or Alan
(or many others) but having been alone, offshore, in rough seas and working
at the mast. One of the best things I ever added to Pelican and it’s a
great place to hang my wetsuit for drying.Bob
On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Alan wrote:
I whole heartily agree with Tor.
Especially in the middle of the night with the wind howling.
To those that call them granny bars, I ask them if they have ever left the
dock!Besides they make a great a place to tie off halyards and hang dock lines
from. Sort of nautical looking I’d say.
AlanSent from my iPhone
On Jul 4, 2013, at 8:21 AM, “Silverheels” wrote:Forgive me, Dan, but “granny bars” and “chicken bars” are dangerously
flippant terms for something so important, suggesting that a real man
wouldn’t use them. No doubt you picked it up from some “sailorman” whohas
never been to sea. Every crewmember who has ever sailed offshore aboard
Silverheels agrees with me that those mast pulpits are absolutely
invaluable. I shudder to think of working up there at the mast in rough
conditions without them. You’d literally risk life & limb and have towork
one-handed, if you could work at all. In some situations it’d be pretty
much
Quote:impossible to put in a reef. Scary.IMHO,
Tor
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That won’t hit our filter but it will hit the NSA’s…
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Jul 3, 2013 5:33 PM, “Thatcher A. Stone – Confidential Attorney
Communication” wrote:Quote:Well let’s see, steel head, lead head, dum dum, hollow point and wad
busters.I would say I have extra grain wad buster.
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This one doesn’t.
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
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I’ll have a look but I don’t remember filtering you specifically. You
seemed like a nice guy when we met.Bob
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Jul 3, 2013 4:33 PM, “John Stevenson” wrote:Quote:It would appear the bar filters on Tor and Thatcher have been correctly
implemented. The filter on my emails is another matter.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Thatcher A. Stone – Confidential Attorney
Communication wrote:Quote:A lot? I get it all the time.
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Hi Thatcher, fine thanks. You’re welcome but without looking and/or
knowing the PO, I can’t say although i’m voting for Adler-Barbour. It’s a
really common unit at a decent price.I thought you sold your boat last year. I’m glad to hear that’s not the
case.Bob
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Jul 3, 2013 3:18 PM, “Thatcher A. Stone – Confidential Attorney
Communication” wrote:Quote:Hey Bob, thanks. How are you?Say listen so far there’s no votes for adler barbour and one vote for the
“Frost” unit made in NH. Got a view?
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