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Hi Lee,
There are as many opinions on this subject as there are boats, almost. I
use one of the West Marine heavy duty pumps (red body) 2000 GPH as the main
pump, and a Rule 2000 as the upper pump. Both of them have the Johnson
contact switches which have no moving parts and won’t start the pump if the
bilge is filled with oil or fuel.Never combine pump discharges. It won’t end well if you need both pumps
for some reason (most likely a big hole in the boat). You can, as is
recommended, put your discharges out the transom. Or, as Tor has done,
‘Tee’ into the deck drain hoses high up near the deck. I’m thinking of
doing this but am also considering changing the drains to go directly out
the hull and removing 4 through hulls with their attendant maintenance and
chance for leaks.Finally, I’ve made ‘L’ shaped platforms out of 1/2″ Starboard to mount the
pump and switch. One has the pump sitting as low as possible (1/2″) and
the other is higher up – a foot or so. Both have a line attached so I can
retrieve either pump for service easily.Feel free to use any or all ideas presented.
Bob
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Bead Game wrote:
what submergable electric bilge pumps on the market today have adequate
head to discharge overboard with about 10′ needed from the bottom of the
bilge?
Any sugestions for mounting a manual bilge pump below the cabin sole? Do
you plumb it in series the the cockpit mounted one?
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Hood: 28-1/2 flange to flange edge, 34-1/2 forward flange edge to aft end.
Hatch: 25-1/2 wide, like 33 long (hard to tell without removing hood)Hope that’s good enough.
Bob
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Robert Fine wrote:
I’ll get it tomorrow as it’s cocktail hour…
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Mar 8, 2013 5:16 PM, “Adam Silverstein” wrote:Length width and height of hood, length and width of slider. Thx!
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I’ll get it tomorrow as it’s cocktail hour…
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Mar 8, 2013 5:16 PM, “Adam Silverstein” wrote:Length width and height of hood, length and width of slider. Thx!
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Eh, what measurements do you want?
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Mar 8, 2013 3:51 PM, “Adam Silverstein” wrote:OK. all you liveaboards: It’s almost cocktail hour EST, so before you get
all sloppy, can someone please measure (1) the sea hood and (2) slider for
the midships companionway. I wan to replace my kluge this spring.
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Fits a w54 or w58. Do you have a line in those engines or a research path
for parts? It would be very cool.Thanks,
Bob
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Mar 3, 2013 9:12 PM, “Steven Weinberg, Ph.D.” wrote:Quote:I am in the final process of rebuilding the cylinder head for my W63C
engine. Westerbeke does not supply the cylinder head any more (typical) so
I went on a hunt over the last 6 months worldwide to find a replacement.
As an aside, the same cylinder head also may fit a W54. After an extensive
search, I was able to locate the head in China. It turns out that the same
engine was used in a 1974 GM small truck, and by Perkins, It was used in a
1984 for 1985 Ford Ranger Pickup. The basic engine has been around a long
time. My engine started as a Kia engine converted for Westerbeke Mazda and
sold by Westerbeke as a 63C engine. Currently the head is used as a Kia
truck engine – sold all over the world except in the US. Let me know is
one is needed, and I have two more that should work and might be able to
get additional units from my contacts in China.Steve
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Very cool!
Bob
On Feb 24, 2013 4:25 PM, “Richard Jank” wrote:I saw the post about hull #63 (Belvedere) and wanted to update that info.
Original owners were the Browns…
We purchased the boat March 2009 in Puerto Vallarta, Mex.
Sailed it to San Carlos, Mex and made some major upgrades to it so we could
live aboard. Replaced the reefer system, installed new Raymarine
Chartplotter, depth sounder, Icom SSB, Magnum 100A charger/ 2000w inverter,
and 545 watts of solar panels with a Morningstar MPPT controller on new
dingy davits.
We are currently lying LaPaz, BCS, Mexico.Susan & Richard Jank K7RJJ
sv DreamKetcher Pearson 424 #63
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Oops, you have a ketch. Sorry, I missed that.
Bob
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Robert Fine wrote:
Hi Paul,
I could dig out the drawing I have and measure the rigging so you could
get an idea. Also, there may be one on the site you can download. If so,
you could supply it to RiggingOnly and they could quote based on that. Do
you have a ketch or sloop? I only have a ketch drawing, but there may be
others that have the sloop one.Bob
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:47 AM, pma_foyl wrote:
Hi All,
I’m trying to get a quote for Standing Rigging on a P424 Ketch, including
(SSB antenna/insulators) from RiggingOnly.com. They don’t have any records
of the specs for a P424 ketch, but said if I get a couple names/dates of
people they’ve provided rigging to, they can give me a pretty accurate
quote.Of course, I’ll still have to measure my actual rig, to ensure the rig is
right for this vessel.I’d appreciate if anyone could give me their name and approx date of
re-rig. Also, what your general feelings about using RiggingOnly.com was.
Did you think you saved alot? did you install and/or tune the rig yourself?
If you used someone else, do you still think ordering the rigging was a
cost saver? Any other insight you might provide would be greatly
appreciated.thank you,
Paul
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Hi Paul,
I could dig out the drawing I have and measure the rigging so you could get
an idea. Also, there may be one on the site you can download. If so, you
could supply it to RiggingOnly and they could quote based on that. Do you
have a ketch or sloop? I only have a ketch drawing, but there may be
others that have the sloop one.Bob
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:47 AM, pma_foyl wrote:
Hi All,
I’m trying to get a quote for Standing Rigging on a P424 Ketch, including
(SSB antenna/insulators) from RiggingOnly.com. They don’t have any records
of the specs for a P424 ketch, but said if I get a couple names/dates of
people they’ve provided rigging to, they can give me a pretty accurate
quote.Of course, I’ll still have to measure my actual rig, to ensure the rig is
right for this vessel.I’d appreciate if anyone could give me their name and approx date of
re-rig. Also, what your general feelings about using RiggingOnly.com was.
Did you think you saved alot? did you install and/or tune the rig yourself?
If you used someone else, do you still think ordering the rigging was a
cost saver? Any other insight you might provide would be greatly
appreciated.thank you,
Paul
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Hi Tor,
There are a number of programs that do that but not so many that will
recursively follow links. You just tell it what files to include either
through a separate file or some other way. This one I just told it to use
the index.html and it went and found all the files and pictures. Why the
links don’t work I don’t know but I wanted you to get this sooner rather
than later. Also, I use Ubuntu Linux as my operating system so I don’t
have to worry about the viruses and crap Windows and to some extent Apple
OS X are subject to. But that’s not really important, is it?I hope you like the program and it works for you.
Bob
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:Bob,I see a number of free programs online for converting HTML to PDF (and also
PDF to JPG, MS Word to PDF, etc, etc). Maybe I’ll play with it a bit now
and see if I can get those hyperlinks to work, but it’s not important. I
just wanted a chance to read through the manual to familiarize myself with
the program functions, and now can thanks to you. I imagine (I hope!) it’s
similar to the Capn Voyager program with which I’m already familiar.Tor
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Hi Tor,
You’re welcome – I had to research, download, install and figure out a
program that would do that with an HTML linked document. I’m sure there’s
a way to make all the links work, but my time this morning was limited.I’m glad it worked, sort of, for you, but I think you won’t refer to it too
often.Enjoy!
Bob
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:It works! I have the manual in PDF. Cool!FYI, most of the hyperlinks in the Table of Contents do not work, but
strangely (to me) a few of them do.Many thanks, Roberto.
Tor
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Finally, here’s the link to a .zip file for the HTML version of the
manual. Somewhere in the OpenCPN program directory is a manuals
directory. Unzipping this there should give you a complete set of manuals
as you use the program.https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5btHG0zM5TGWnRkX2E0QXROVnc/edit?usp=sharing
I’ll keep the file up for a while as I mentioned for the .pdf file.
Bob
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:Bob,Yes, please do put that manual (in any format besides 7z) somewhere where I
can then download it – without burdening the forum with it.Clicking on the ? in my OpenCPN does lead to the manual’s Table of
Contents,
but nothing more.Tor
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No, actually, the reason it doesn’t read 7zip files is because the people
who wrote .zip archive software won’t read competitor’s 7zip archive. That
simple.I’ve made it into a .pdf, but it’s 16 Mb and I’ll have to get it to you
through Google Docs or something because I don’t want to send 16mb files to
everyone in the list. Or, I’ll use a site like ‘sharethis’ or something.If you’ve already installed it, the help files will be installed. This
document looks just like them.Bob
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:Thanks, Bob, I would be grateful to receive from you ANY version of the
user
manual that doesn’t require me to download that computer-killing program.Boy, these guys really are lazy if they couldn’t be bothered to make a
simple PDF manual. One wonders that they managed to create the program at
all. Oh, well, I guess we get what we pay for. If it’s half as good as you
guys say it is I’ll be thrilled. I have already determined that it can read
my old chart collection, which is why I’m pursuing it. These are charts I
used with Capn Voyager v6, which the v8 does not recognize. (More lazy
programmers!)I suspect the reason my Windows won’t open a 7z file and yours will is
because my dedicated little nav laptop, an old Toughbook I’ve had for
years,
runs on XP. Perhaps my main (new) machine, using Windows 7, could open
those
files. But I’m not risking this computer with anything from that OpenCPN
web
site. Push comes to shove, I could Recover the Toughbook again in a day or
so. My main laptop would take a week.Looking forward to your re-zipped manual.
Thanks again,
Tor
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Oh, and 7zip archives are open sourced as well so they don’t have to pay
licensing to the people who created the zip archives.On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Robert Fine wrote:
Quote:Hi Tor,Ok, now I understand the problem. The 7zip file is an archive your
Windows can’t read and it looked for a program to read it and you picked
the big green button that gave you something else. I’ve just downloaded
the manual and I’ve extracted it and I’ll re-zip it so you can read it if
you want. Bad news, it’s 20mb, and it’s an HTML manual so you need to read
it with a browser.They’re not being cagey. It’s open source meaning it’s free and they
develop these things for fun and maybe some profit if anyone deigns to
donate. So documentation is last on their list of things to do.
Programmers, by and large, are lazy. Good programmers are very lazy.
Lazy, in this case, is a good thing because they will find the shortest,
easiest way to get a particular function to work.I just checked my OpenCPN and the manual is already installed and I don’t
remember specially doing it. If you start OpenCPN and click on the ?
button what happens?Bob
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:Thanks, Patrick, but the opencpn.org site from which I downloaded the
file
that crashed my computer looked safe to me, too.Tor
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Hi Tor,
Ok, now I understand the problem. The 7zip file is an archive your Windows
can’t read and it looked for a program to read it and you picked the big
green button that gave you something else. I’ve just downloaded the manual
and I’ve extracted it and I’ll re-zip it so you can read it if you want.
Bad news, it’s 20mb, and it’s an HTML manual so you need to read it with a
browser.They’re not being cagey. It’s open source meaning it’s free and they
develop these things for fun and maybe some profit if anyone deigns to
donate. So documentation is last on their list of things to do.
Programmers, by and large, are lazy. Good programmers are very lazy.
Lazy, in this case, is a good thing because they will find the shortest,
easiest way to get a particular function to work.I just checked my OpenCPN and the manual is already installed and I don’t
remember specially doing it. If you start OpenCPN and click on the ?
button what happens?Bob
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:Thanks, Patrick, but the opencpn.org site from which I downloaded the file
that crashed my computer looked safe to me, too.Tor
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Yes, leave the old pump in place, bypass it and use an electric pump
connected to the ignition switch. It should run whenever the key is on. Big
advantage: after a filter change can prime the engine without a big hassle.Bob
On Jan 29, 2013 4:13 PM, “cstewart” wrote:Low pressure. This is the mechanical pump attached to the engine,
Westerbeke part #17755. Are you talking about an electric pump?
Thanks ,
Charlie
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