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We’re going sailing next Friday – it’s possible we can get to Essex for a
day before heading back. Will you still be there?Bob
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 8:27 AM, S V Navasana <> wrote:
I am in Essex on ct river now. Best friends daughter is getting married
tonight. Was thinking about a day sail on Sunday. But will have to see how I
am doing Sunday morn.Eric Lorentzon
EFI Sales Development Manager
412.352.1941
Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 23, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Robert Fine <> wrote:
Teri and I are going somewhere Saturday afternoon, coming back Sunday. I
don’t think we can make Mystic overnight. You?Bob
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 3:51 PM, S V Navasana <>
wrote:
What are your plans for Sunday?
Eric Lorentzon
EFI Sales Development Manager
412.352.1941
Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 3, 2010, at 8:49 AM, Robert Fine <> wrote:
Hi Eric,
That sounds like an excellent ride! Will you be coming farther west in
your
travels, like Stamford, CT for instance?
Bob
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 8:43 AM, S V Navasana <>
wrote:
Wow, pulled into block island RI yesterday afternoon at 12:30. Greg
and
I
sailed navasana from Gloucester MA. Departed at 1530hrs Thursday.
Starboard
tack all the way. Any chance that my return trip will be as
smooth?…..
Hope everyone out there has a great July 4th.
Eric Lorentzon
S V Navasana, hull 59
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Teri and I are going somewhere Saturday afternoon, coming back Sunday. I
don’t think we can make Mystic overnight. You?Bob
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 3:51 PM, S V Navasana <> wrote:
What are your plans for Sunday?
Eric Lorentzon
EFI Sales Development Manager
412.352.1941
Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 3, 2010, at 8:49 AM, Robert Fine <> wrote:
Hi Eric,
That sounds like an excellent ride! Will you be coming farther west in
your
travels, like Stamford, CT for instance?
Bob
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 8:43 AM, S V Navasana <> wrote:
Wow, pulled into block island RI yesterday afternoon at 12:30. Greg and
I
sailed navasana from Gloucester MA. Departed at 1530hrs Thursday.
Starboard
tack all the way. Any chance that my return trip will be as smooth?…..
Hope everyone out there has a great July 4th.Eric Lorentzon
S V Navasana, hull 59
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Cool!
Thanks!
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 6:05 AM, Alan wrote:
Quote:Lee
Here is a link to the CG database. Just type in the name of the boat.
Great for finding out who your neighbors are….http://www.st.nmfs.noaa.gov/st1//CoastGuard/VesselByName.html
Alan
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With the advent of new and powerful adhesive/sealants we tend to think along
the lines of using the stuff as bedding compound to help keep whatever we’re
bedding in place.Tor’s rope caulk is, like Dolphinite (used by Sabre on all their boats), a
sealant. The strength of the attachment is from the mechanical fasteners
not the goop you put between.Silicone is a compressive sealant – it’s a terrible bedding compound for
several reasons, not the least of which is that if it isn’t compressed after
setting up it will leak – in fact, it will pull away microscopically from
the substrates like steel and glass and cause water to be sucked in by
capillary action. It only makes things worse.If you want to bond and bed, use the appropriate adhesive/sealant. 3M 5200
is great if you really don’t think you’ll be removing a thing. 4000UV for
things you may want to remove. But as I said, Dolphinite and rope caulk are
all you need for almost all applications as long as there’s no flexing.Like Tor, I’ve pulled 20 year old fittings bedded with Dolphinite that don’t
leak and are cleaned up with mineral spirits.As an aside, I have a friend that makes his bottom paint buy dissolving a
tube of silicone in xylene and mixes that with a gallon of cheap bottom
paint. His boat comes out at the end of the season clean as a whistle.Downside? He can’t use normal paint anymore unless soda blasts the bottom.
My two cents.
Oh, yes, here’s something silicone is good for – put a dab on the ends of
the cotter pins through the clevis pins on the rigging. Keeps the sharp
ends from snagging and the pins from falling out or wobbling.Bob
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Hi Eric,
That sounds like an excellent ride! Will you be coming farther west in your
travels, like Stamford, CT for instance?Bob
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 8:43 AM, S V Navasana wrote:
Wow, pulled into block island RI yesterday afternoon at 12:30. Greg and I
sailed navasana from Gloucester MA. Departed at 1530hrs Thursday. Starboard
tack all the way. Any chance that my return trip will be as smooth?…..
Hope everyone out there has a great July 4th.Eric Lorentzon
S V Navasana, hull 59
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The biggest issue with that frame is to keep the drain holes clear –
standing water inside the outboard runner will eventually go somewhere and
not somewhere good.There could be more and bigger freeing holes on them.
Bob
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 9:51 AM, <> wrote:
Quote:I assume we mean Ed. Merrick. Ed was a wealth of knowledge and I’m sure we
all miss him. I remember the discussion. I searched through my email archive
and could not find it.I did something similar but not quite as elegant. It seems to work for me,
but I’m sure his solution was better. The biggest improvement came from
fixing the leaks under the hatch frame. Keeping the water from getting under
the hatch slide is of little help if it leaks under the frame.Rich
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I forgot to mention – the tipping guy still does the work, but it’s $175. I
met another 424 owner at Cayo Costa who just got 7 big bins from Walmart,
laid them on the deck on one side, and filled them with water. After
passing the bridge they gave the containers away.Cost: less than $50.
The Indiantown marina doesn’t do it – they give you the person’s number to
call.That’s all I have to say about that.
Bob
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 5:14 PM, James Roberts <>wrote:
Quote:I have a 1983 cutter and my mast height including a 2ft. lightning rod is
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Who is the famous dead owner?
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Hi Barbara,
If you have a ketch then you don’t need tipping. I knew I was going through
the Okeechobee Waterway back on my way down and measured my masthead at 48
feet (just like the drawings say it is!)Anyway, the bridge height is usually 49.5 feet, sometimes higher if there’s
been a drought. When I went through I took off my windex, Raymarine wind
instrument sensors and the rather tall masthead light – it is one of the
ones with the flasher as well as nav light and anchor light.For me, going up the mast is easy as pie – I have Mastmates for each mast
(because they have differing tracks).Anyway, I just ran it up and left it there for the trip under the bridge.
I probably had enough clearance for everything but to honest even with the
stuff off, I went sideways through the bridge.Here’s what I have to say about the whole thing: It always looks like your
mast is going to hit no matter what bridge you’re going under. Go under
this bridge once and you’ll learn what it *really* looks like to be close to
the bridge…That said, the lock masters know what the level is on a day-to-day basis.
It’s a lovely trip and if you don’t need to be in Ft. Myers check out the
Cape Coral Yacht Basin. Tell them I sent you. Tell them I miss them, too.Good trip!
Bob
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 8:46 AM, svtopaz <> wrote:
Hi Guys….it is Barbara here.
I am on my way south and am in St. Augustine at the moment. Going to stay
for the 4th and perhaps a little longer. I had planned on going over to the
Ft Myers area, so my question is…….Has anyone gone through Lake Okeechobee?? If so could you give me any info
on getting through. I have heard people use a company to get under the
bridge using water to tip the vessel to get under it.I am still a bit concerned about the oil spill……I may just stay on the
east coast.~B
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Hi Pete,
Yes – I have the ‘L’ shaped galley and the hatch is about 6″ forward of the
sink cabinet and about 12″ inboard of the refrigerator and stove. It’s
about 30″ long and 18″ wide.For anyone who hasn’t looked – there is a tremendous amount of usable space
under the sole that Pearson didn’t think you need access to.Maybe in 1978 you didn’t but we sure do now!
Bob
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Pete Dubler <> wrote:
Quote:Bob,Thanks. Is this under the galley? The Spectra is a bit taller the one you
show, but I will measure it. I am getting good at cutting sole hatches…
the whole salon sole is cut out for the new fuel tank.
PeteOn 6/20/2010 8:10 AM, Robert Fine wrote:
Quote:I don’t have Jack’s water maker – I have a Pur Survivor 35 which is
enough
to keep someone alive if not swimming in water. Turns out, Jack is right.
Everywhere I cruised they had water. Food, too. These facts are very
important to remember. All people eat, drink and poo.But someone gave me the water maker and what the heck, I had it rebuilt at
the factory and got the cruising kit and installed it.I know it works, I’ve never used it and because of that it probably needs
a
new membrane by now.But here’s where I put it (see the piccies). I’ve made other openings in
the cabin sole for just these purposes. To see how I made the opening,
seehttp://thesailinglife.blogspot.com/2008/11/there-is-never-enough-space.html
Bob
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Pete Dubler<>
wrote:Quote:Boy, Jack’s locker looks like the wide open spaces compared to mine. I
have a large water heater and above that a freedom inverter in that same
space. I am thinking bilge again, which as you know is my favorite space
on
the boat…On 6/19/2010 9:17 PM, John Stevenson wrote:
Quote:Pete,
Here is a link to the writeup Jack Tyler did on his Spectra
installation.http://www.svsarah.com/Whoosh/WhooshPacificPrepWaterMaker.html
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Pete Dubler<>
wrote:Quote:Yup. With the scuba compressor and the 200amp alternator, not room for
much else on the Kubota. Also like the idea of running off of wind and
solar.Pete
On 6/19/2010 8:11 PM, Alan wrote:
Quote:Ah Pete you cheated and went commercial….. Dont know about anything
else but my membranes fit very nicely up under the aft lazerate.
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Aw, hell, I galumphed around to do it… 🙂
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Silver Heels <> wrote:
Quote:Bob,Glad to hear it’s better staying there than I sensed it would be. Maybe
things have settled some since my brief encounter in late 2006. In fact, I
got along well with the management while I was there. I just didn’t like
tiptoeing around to do it.Tor
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It turns out, like in any authoritarian society, one can bend the rules. I,
too, was a bit horrified by the rules and contract. However, they gave me a
slip for half a week at $20.00 per day with electricity, because the haulout
was late in the day, they gave me that day free. Their prices are amazing
for all the stuff they sell.Once you get used to Aaahnald (actually Scott who looks like the Terminator)
running the place you’re free to do pretty much what you like.Here’s what I’ve found – act like an asshole, they’ll treat you that way.
Behave like a civilized adult and you’re golden.I especially liked the Cracker Cafe. Excellent food cheap.
I probably broke all the rules on the boards there except “You are not
allowed to kill other boaters” – really, it turned out ok and I’d go back.
Rebecca, Scott’s wife, is very kind and open to dealing. She’s also hot.
But I digress.The prices for zincs there are 1/2 anywhere else.
Anyway, different people, different experiences. I really liked them beyond
the stupid contract. Having lived in marinas a lot, I know that there are,
um, boaters that, um, make life difficult for the rest of us. That’s who
Scott is trying to protect himself from. It’s hard to do, but I agree he
could have done it with a little more finesse.What do you expect from a terminator, though? 🙂
Bob
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Silver Heels <> wrote:
Quote:Bob,I bought my 424 at Indiantown Marina. Might have stayed there to do the
refit, but the (then new) owner was a virtual Nazi. Rules posted
everywhere,
no exceptions, and everything totally one-sided – in his favor, of course.
Personally, I wouldn’t have anything to do the place as long as he’s
running
it. Too bad, because otherwise I kind of liked it there. Friendly little
Mexican town, some open Everglades-like countryside to explore. Nice.Tor
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Hi Alan and Joe,
If that’s in response to my post, the filter is the big round thing on the
bottom of the picture is the filter – the good thing is that opening it
drains directly to the bilge…Bob
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Hi Alan,
When I was at Indiantown and I suppose every other marina, once you sign the
contract for hauling they are essentially not responsible for anything. The
one at Indiantown was so onerous as to not be enforceable in that it removed
all rights from the customer.I told them that (the owner) and he said he knew but it was to cover his
ass.Be careful of the marina’s reputation and their contract for hauling.
I’m not a lawyer, but I do get the general drift. (I don’t play one on TV
either)Anyway, if it was by your direction then I guess you’re right. You’re
screwed.Bob
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Alan <> wrote:
Quote:Well, here’s the thing.
Once you tell the marina people “anything”, how much are you liable for.
He followed my directions…… to both our satisfaction… could he have
done more…. who knows, should he have done more….. It was just a matter
of an inch or two to where the Black Dot was that everyone has used..
Next time….. walk away and let them do it on their own….. and let them
be totally responsible.
A life lesson…..
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I don’t have Jack’s water maker – I have a Pur Survivor 35 which is enough
to keep someone alive if not swimming in water. Turns out, Jack is right.
Everywhere I cruised they had water. Food, too. These facts are very
important to remember. All people eat, drink and poo.But someone gave me the water maker and what the heck, I had it rebuilt at
the factory and got the cruising kit and installed it.I know it works, I’ve never used it and because of that it probably needs a
new membrane by now.But here’s where I put it (see the piccies). I’ve made other openings in
the cabin sole for just these purposes. To see how I made the opening, see
http://thesailinglife.blogspot.com/2008/11/there-is-never-enough-space.htmlBob
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Pete Dubler <> wrote:
Quote:Boy, Jack’s locker looks like the wide open spaces compared to mine. I
have a large water heater and above that a freedom inverter in that same
space. I am thinking bilge again, which as you know is my favorite space on
the boat…On 6/19/2010 9:17 PM, John Stevenson wrote:
Quote:Pete,
Here is a link to the writeup Jack Tyler did on his Spectra installation.http://www.svsarah.com/Whoosh/WhooshPacificPrepWaterMaker.html
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Pete Dubler<>
wrote:Quote:Yup. With the scuba compressor and the 200amp alternator, not room for
much else on the Kubota. Also like the idea of running off of wind and
solar.Pete
On 6/19/2010 8:11 PM, Alan wrote:
Quote:Ah Pete you cheated and went commercial….. Dont know about anything
else but my membranes fit very nicely up under the aft lazerate.
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