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Do you have a ketch? If so, both masts are a permanent mark for lifting the
boat. I am attaching a picture to show. You’ll have to trust me that the
forward one is at the mast.I know it’s a day late and a dollar short (or several boat bucks) but if it
saves someone else this problem, then it’s worth it.Bob
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Alan <> wrote:
Quote:Well. the bad news for me is that I told the guy where to put the
straps…..
There is black dot where my yard has picked up the boat for the last 7
years. I thought he centered the straps on the dot…. apparently he’s been
putting the straps just behind the black dot. I never noticed that the black
dot marks the end of the prop….. sucks to be me.
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I have the original sail and hull plans for the ketch. It doesn’t have part
numbers but it’s a pretty good drawing.Bob
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Alan <> wrote:
Are there any Pearson 424 drawings or blueprints that show, point out or
detail, the underside of the our boat, namely strut position, part number or
dimensions?,
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Hi Dan,
I think you can have that welded on the boat as is. But I have another idea
which I am taking from Jack and Pat’s “Whoosh”.I’ve given a great deal of thought on how to control the mizzen better. On
Whoosh, they have rigged blocks and tackles on either side of the main boom
for sail control and as preventers. It alleviates the need for a traveler
and boom vang. It also locks the boom in place.The mizzen twists too much off the wind with the one point of attachment.
There’s no vang or provision for same.What would happen, then, if you added a new pad eye at the aft corners of
the cockpit and had tackles like the running backs to the bale on the mizzen
boom? You could use them to shape the sail any way you wanted. It would
also allow you to prevent gybes.True, that’s some more line in the cockpit, but it might be worth it.
Bob
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Pushing the envelope with Lady Leanne off Diamond Head with just jig and
jigger. Damned if the mizzen traveller tang didn’t part. I guess the SS is
just old. Has anyone else had this problem? How did you approach repair?
I only want to pull the taff rail as a last resort for welding.Dan Kalinowski
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I agree with the 365 mizzen assessment, but not the 424. I sail most of the
time jib & jigger with the staysail added. I can do it in 10 knot winds and
up.I’m healthy and fairly strong but I don’t want to be wrestling with huge
sails by myself in a blow, thank you very much.I can’t really imagine an easier sail to set and dowse except the roller
furling jib. It’s always my first sail up and last dowsed because it’s
right there. It’s great for sailing off the anchor (you can use it to force
the boat one direction or the other) and boom makes a handy crane.Nevertheless, if you’re happy with the sloop that’s all that matters.
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You haven’t upset any of us. We each choose the rig we want for our own
reasons. I like the ketch with a staysail for flexibility and ease of
handling smaller sails. It’s the rig I’ve always wanted and was happy and
lucky to find a 424 in good shape with the rig I wanted.I’ve sailed sloops, cutters, schooners and any number of little boats and in
my humble opinion I’ll put up with the cockpit clutter for the handling
ease. As I said, in reality, the main is the least used sail and is the
first one reefed or dowsed.But that’s me.
You’re happy with your choice, I’m happy with mine, Rich is happy with his,
Tor with his, and so on.The 424 hull supports all kinds of rigs – it’s stiff and relatively fast for
a boat its age and size. It makes a great liveaboard and a very competent
cruiser. In truth, we probably all could switch to a different rigged 424
and be just as happy. They’re good boats and have been good to us.So enjoy your sloop!
In 50 knots, I’d use the staysail and mizzen. All self tacking and all
smallish sails.Bob
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Hi Rich,
No flaming here but I take a bit of exception to your characterization to
ketch rig and staysails.I sail in the northeast (Long Island Sound and environs) and have a ketch
with a staysail (the discussion is whether it’s a staysail ketch or cutter
ketch. I vote for cutter ketch, but some disagree. But I digress). The
staysail is self-tacking.When I ordered new sails, I ordered a 140% jib and new staysail. Imagine my
distress in receiving a 120% jib instead. (“Oops” said the sailmaker)Long story short, the combination of the two gives plenty of power even in
light air. Moreover, the staysail makes tacking much easier in that it
‘feeds’ the jib through the slot. Otherwise it has a tendency to hang up on
the inner forestay.Downwind I can ‘wing-on-wing’ the two sails fairly easily and in 35 knots
true will drag the boat along at 8+ knots steady as a rock.The ketch rig, especially with the shorter mast, makes a very easy to
singlehand vessel with a very flexible sail plan. Most of the time, if the
wind’s over 15 knots, I don’t even bother with the mainsail using instead
the jib, stay, and mizzen.I consistently run 6-7 knots with a clean bottom.That said, I had a little larger mizzen made with a fairly radical roach. I
lowered the boom about 4″. As an aside, it also serves as a lifting device
for the outboard engine.On a close haul, you are correct – the mizzen is fairly useless. It tends
to luff from the wind coming off the main. But at 50 degrees off the wind
it provides a fair amount of power. It’s far from a useless sail.The ketch sails like crap with just the main and mizzen. Even off the wind
there’s not enough power to move the boat. The headsails make all the
difference.I agree with your comment about clutter. There is an awful lot of it.
Between the stays and running backstays you have a nearly complete fence
around the cockpit. There’s always something to grab onto or to fiddle
with. It’s a curse and a blessing depending on how busy you are.One thing I wish I had was either a vang for the mizzen or a traveler for
it. It tends to twist too much off the wind making it’s power less
effective. But that’d be another thing in the cockpit…Most of my sailing is done on autopilot or standing on the seats so I can
see where I’m going so the low boom isn’t an issue for me.A rudimentary backstay adjuster could be added with a block on each of the
split stays connected together and to a tackle that draws those blocks down
and therefore the stays together. The mizzen could be the anchor point.The ketch does indeed look cool under sail.
I suspect you can point higher than I – I can get to about 45 degrees.
All the best,
Bob
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You’re welcome –
The reason I know these things is that I spent a month with Lee and Karen on
Morning Glory – we spent a great deal of time comparing their sloop to my
ketch. His mast is definitely higher than mine and in a different spot. I
think the booms are similarly long.I could fit, just barely, through the Okeechobee Waterway and Lee could not.
Anyway, enjoy your new boat and glad to have you on the forum!
Bob
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Wrong-o.
The ketch’s rig is shorter by several feet than the sloop’s. The mast in
the sloop is also forward of the ketch’s.The ketch’s main mast is 48′ from water. The sloop’s is higher.
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I just installed a WaveWiFi antenna and a netgear router on my friend’s boat
– simple to install, easy to use (just go to http://www.wavewifi.com and it sees
the antenna with a web page of all the nearby networks). It’s a POE thing
and the Netgear router is easy to secure.It took all of about 4 hours to install and configure, but they have a
powerboat and didn’t run the wire through the mast.The disadvantage, though, is the price – it’s about $399 and they sometimes
throw in the router.Bob
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Hi Dan,
Target or Walmart has the same things for 1/2 the price. Called ‘Sylvania
DOT-it’.Bob
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 1:52 AM, kalinowski <>wrote:
We purchased the LED, AA powered, hocky puck lights from West. They have
stick ems on the back and 2 light intensities. We’ve mounted them in all of
the lockers throughout Lady Leanne, including the fridge. You do have to
click them on/off, but the ease of installation (no holes ,no wiring) makes
them worthwhile. Cheap!Dan Kalinowski
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Um, which pumps? The R30Gs or the other pump. I’ll take whatever pump you
have that will work as I seem to go through water pumps like most people go
through underwear.Bob
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Pete Dubler <> wrote:
Bob,
My R30G was changed out for a larger pump on a separate SS bracket. It
moves the water much better than the original. I have two of these pumps,
two brackets, one aluminum and one iron pulley, a bunch of impellers, extra
o-rings, bearings, seals, etc that are all up for sale to a happy home.Pete
On 5/24/2010 4:17 PM, Robert Fine wrote:
Hi Everyone,
I’m hoping beyond hope that one of you, who owns a W58 or had one at one
time, has an old Sherwood R30G-1 raw water pump that you’ve replaced and
are
wondering what to do with the old one kicking around in a locker
somewhere.Mine blew its brains out (the outer bearing failed allowing the shaft to
wobble and do some irreparable damage to the end cap, shaft and bearing
holder. The pump body is still good so if I collect a lot of old pumps I
might be able to rebuild this one with the major parts that don’t normally
all fail at once.If any of you has had the opportunity to use the R30G (difference? shorter
shaft and keyed instead of landed) did you have a problem with it? Did
you
use the original pulley or did you purchase a different one?The difference in pump prices between the R30G and G-1 is $50 – for an
already very expensive pump…Thanks !
Bob
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I’d like one, please.
Bob Fine
Avalon on Stamford Harbor
Attn Marina/Leasing Office
150 Southfield Ave
Stamford, CT 06902Thanks,
Bob
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 5:13 PM, norris larson <>wrote:
Quote:It’s fresh water.
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HI Norris,
Is that the fresh water pump or the raw water pump? If raw water, I want
two, if fresh water, I just bought one from Pete but would take one anyway.Thanks,
Bob
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:04 PM, norris larson <>wrote:
I have FOUR compete pump units, P/N 24557. I don’t see that any new owner
will need three of these pump units, so I offer two of them to anyone who
wants one for the cost of shipping. They retail for some $200. I’m using one
myself.The first P.O. had acquired a large selection of spares—it seems there was
a plan to go offshore back when Easy Reach was new. Plans changed and there
were so many spares on board when we bought her that we sloughed off on
doing a complete inventory beyond raw water pump impellers and accessory
belts. I knew there had to be parts to repair the fresh coolant pump. In
fact, there were there four units.Repair is straightforward. Remove the old pump unit and bolt on the new
one, paying attention to orient it properly to the stud on the pump housing.
The big deal was separating the pump unit from the housing. I had to heat it
to melt the old gasket.Norris Larson on Easy Reach, #206.
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Engine rotation is almost always expressed as the direction it rotates when
looking at the front of the engine – in other words with the auxiliary
equipment end, in our case, the alternator and water pump. It is as if
you’ve opened the hood of your car and looked at the engine.Just like the starboard side of a boat is always the side to the right when
looking forward.The W58 rotates in the counter-clockwise direction.
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Man, where is that place? I’m going there! Up the CT River? Really, I
can’t imagine the place exists in this day and age. 20, 30 years ago, sure,
but not now.🙂
Bob
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Quote:What is a remote area in CT?One steps ashore. The closest public place, a ice cream kiosk, is a mile
walk thru an area of private and posted land. No markets or public spaces
within a reasonable walking distance and not much to explore except the
roadways connecting all the private and posted land.Cruising Long Island Sound is OK if you have a permanent place and ready
land transportation. Its similar to the south end of Lake Michigan where I
learned to sail. Maine and parts of Massachusetts were better suited to
extended crusing except for the lobster pots which I finally got tired of
steering around. Nova Scotia, Cape Breton, Quebec, and Newfoundland were
much more fun, despite the short season.Norris Larson
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