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  • in reply to: Wifi Antenna recommendations #75522
    john stevenson
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    Rod,
    Not knowing what you are using to connect to WIFI, makes it difficult to
    recommend something better. Patrick’s recommendation for a POE system is
    probably the most efficient system, but not a little costly, complicated and
    and with a somewhat involved implementation. A simple solution might just
    be higher powered USB adapter. I’ve used the Alfa adapter with good success
    in marginal conditions (e.g., anchored in the Bahamas). It has a long
    enough USB cable to be put on the top of the coach roof while working the
    computer at the dining table or the nav desk and pull in signals a mile or
    more away. I also purchased a directional antenna that connects to the
    Alfa, but I only used it a couple of times as it is too directional for use
    when at anchor. While in Marsh Harbor, winter before last, several cruisers
    complained that they couldn’t stay connected to the local WIFI service, one
    of whom said they had a POE system. Durng this same time I was having no
    problems staying connected with the Alfa.
    If you are an IT professional like Patrick, the POE system is probably the
    way to go. If you want something you can purchase and install immediately
    then something like the Alfa might be the way to go.
    One of the drawbacks to the Alfa is it requires two standard USB ports on
    your computer (to get enough power)). If you have a newer computer with a
    powered USB port you can get by with just that port. Also the antenna must
    be brought into the cabin during inclement weather. I’m sure Patrick’s
    solution is all-weather.

    On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Patrick “Peaboy” Walters <
    > wrote:

    There are a number of ways you can go. What I’m doing is as follows:

    Ubiquiti Bullet 2 WiFi Bridge ($85) connected to a a Digital Antenna wifi
    antenna ($90) mounted on the mizzen mast.
    There is an ethernet cable (use direct burial cable) that runs up inside
    the
    mast to the radio which mounts to the antenna. This cables powers and
    handles the data traffic.
    This connects to a Linksys WRT54G wireless access point and is my boats
    wireless network, the Ubiquiti bridge is the “internet uplink” at home this
    would be your DSL or cable modem.

    It’s still laying in the yard (almost done) but I ran it at the dock and it
    worked great.

    You could mount it deck level or hoist it set it up temporarily as well.

    Pics and details to be posted on my site when the rig is back up.

    -p
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    On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Rodd Leeds <> wrote:

    Trying to increase my range and reception for wifi. I am barely able to
    get my cable company’s wifi signal at the dock (connecting at 11Mbps).

    It

    was good enough to log on the web and to connect to my slingbox and watch

    tv

    on the computer.

    Can anyone recommend an antenna or a system that would increase my range
    and improve signal strength. Also, what type of an antenna is best and
    where should it be mounted for maximum reception? Do these systems

    connect

    directly to the laptop’s network card, or do they need to connect to a
    router or Access Point?

    Thanks guys! The season is upon us here in the North East!!

    Rodd Leeds
    “Windseeker”
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    in reply to: Grunert refrigeration #75495
    john stevenson
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    From previous discussions on this subject I think most of us agree that the

    most important component of the refrigeration system is the box itself. The
    type of compressor is secondary. If you have a box like friends have on
    their custom-built boat – the compressor comes on every two days in the
    tropics to maintain the freezer at 0F – it really doesn’t matter what type
    of compressor is driving the system. However most of us are living with a
    box somewhere between mine (original Pearson) or one to which additional
    insulation has been added. In my case I have to run either my engine drive
    or AC (via the shore power or generator) compressor twice a day. I think
    those who have upgraded their boxes can probably get by with once a day. My
    system works fine dockside or on a passage, but sucks when anchored for an
    extended period. Running the engine or generator twice a day keeps me from
    spending extended time ashore unless I put into a marina. Also both of my
    compressors are water cooled, which means for haulouts I have to shut down
    the refrigeration. I blame my over weight condition on those “eat the
    contents of the frig” days before a haulout :).
    One other lesson I’ve learned – if you want to modify the box, do it before
    you move onboard. Once you have set up residence on the boat, changing
    anything in the galley becomes a major life style impact item.

    This coming winter I plan to move off the boat for a month or two and try to
    do some upgrades to the frig and a few other items. Making major changes to
    the box may not be on the project list. I have the original L-Galley
    configuration with the box outboard of the sink and about 1/2 the size of
    the box in the U-Galleys. So adding insulation to the inside of the box
    will cut down on the volume significantly. Of course a smaller box might
    solve my overweight issues, but I’m too old to make those kind of life-style
    changes.

    So my frig upgrade may be adding an air-cooled 12v compressor (I’ve worked
    out a solution with SeaFrost) and a wind generator. I don’t think I can add
    sufficient solar panels to a 424 Ketch to get enough energy to maintain my
    freezer at 25F and still not still have to run the engine or generator twice
    a day. A wind generator on the mizzen mast might allow me to get it down to
    once a day or maybe skip a day on occasion.

    On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 4:15 PM, wrote:

    Quote:
    Lets say that your alternator can put out 150A. One might think that you
    could put 150AH into your battery by running your engine for one hour. It
    doesn’t work that way. Your batteries won’t accept a charge at that rate.
    Even with the best smart regulator and a huge alternator you’ll be lucky to
    get an average of 50AH into your battery bank assuming that your bank is a
    typical size. So what can you do with that extra 100A that your alternator
    could provide that’s not going into your batteries? Run a 115v compressor
    through your inverter of course! That’s not going to take all of that extra
    alternator capacity but it will use some of it. I have an engine-driven
    system so that extra alternator capacity doesn’t go anywhere unless I run
    the microwave.

    I would think that a 115v holding-plate system would have the best of both
    worlds. I’ve never had the opportunity to compare it with my system but on
    paper it should work. It might take more running time than an engine-driven
    system but would eliminate the rubber hoses and engine-mounted compressor
    which are maintenance items. It could also work off a generator or shore
    power.

    My engine-driven system still consumes about 15A DC when running. This is
    what the water pump and clutch consume. I’d like to replace the water pump
    with something smaller. The original pump died many years ago and I replaced
    it with a big washdown pump. That’s all I could find.

    Regards
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    in reply to: Water Injection Elbow Leak #75481
    john stevenson
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    My installer also doubted whether the exhaust hose could be bent to the
    extent needed. Fortunately Rich had done his re-power a year or so earlier
    and published pictures. Once my installer saw that it could be done with
    heavy duty hose he went that way. Turned out it was not difficult at all.
    http://www.svsarah.com/Sarah/Images/20080207%20Engine%20Install%205.JPG

    On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Silver Heels <> wrote:

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    Rich.

    That would be an impossible bend on my Yanmar 4JH4E, especially with the
    very heavy-duty hose the mechanic used. There simply isn’t enough room
    beneath the manifold. Check out what he did instead (attached photos).
    Pretty clever and nicely executed.

    Tor
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    in reply to: Starter Solenoid Wiring #75469
    john stevenson
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    Bill,
    Here is link to the W60 electrical diagram I scanned 10 years ago. Hope it
    helps: http://www.svsarah.com/Sarah/Images/Engine%20Wire%20Med.JPG

    On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Bill Emberley <>wrote:

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    HELP!
    Anyone have a photo or diagram of the connections to the starter solenoid
    on a Westerbeke 60? Not 100% sure that I have it correct.
    THANKS!
    Bill

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    in reply to: Topsides color #75438
    john stevenson
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    Adam,
    What beige? My topsides are white, or at least they were the last time I
    washed them.
    Are you asking about the mustard-colored bulkheads in the cabin? There I
    wouldn’t try for a match.

    On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:23 AM, adam silverstein wrote:

    Is that awful beige similar to interlux 1990 hatteras white? What matches
    well?

    Adam Silverstein, iPhone

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    in reply to: pearson 424 group #75422
    john stevenson
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    Just to clarify things here is a picture of my traveler car with the fix
    performed in 2005:
    http://www.svsarah.com/Sailing/AtlanticCircle/Images/Traveller%20Repair%202.JPG

    On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 4:08 PM, dave jones <> wrote:

    James,

    Our 1982 (#178) also used Nicro-Fico traveler. Rig-Rite, if you can get a
    hold of them, stocks parts.

    Dave & Pat
    Doris E.

    James Roberts wrote:

    I just returned from 19 months sailing from Trinidad to Australia on a
    friends Oyster 485 and six months sailing on my 424(Revery) in the
    Caribbean. Can anyone tell me what make traveller was used on 1983 424’s? I
    have a crack in the pin that holds the shackle to the piece that connects to
    the traveller car. This was picked up on a recent survey. On the same survey
    the steel mast step had a lot of corrosion and must be replaced. I plan on
    using aluminum to replace it. I also am replacing the Awlgrip finish on the
    mast for the second time-last in 1998. Please put me back on the 424 email
    list. Jim Roberts, #219-cutter

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    in reply to: pearson 424 group #75420
    john stevenson
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    Jim,
    Not sure how much Pearson changed things between 1978 to 1983. I believe on
    my 1978 ketch the traveler track and car are Nicro. The blocks are
    Shaefer. I don’t have a pin or shackle on my traveler car so maybe things
    did change. I did have the machine screw that attaches one block to the car
    pullout on the way to the Azores in 2005. I drilled and taped a new hole
    for the screw and it has held every since.
    Most people I know who replaced the traveler went with Garhauer.

    That must have been a sweet ride on the Oyster.

    On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:28 PM, James Roberts <>wrote:

    I just returned from 19 months sailing from Trinidad to Australia on a
    friends Oyster 485 and six months sailing on my 424(Revery) in the
    Caribbean. Can anyone tell me what make traveller was used on 1983 424’s? I
    have a crack in the pin that holds the shackle to the piece that connects to
    the traveller car. This was picked up on a recent survey. On the same survey
    the steel mast step had a lot of corrosion and must be replaced. I plan on
    using aluminum to replace it. I also am replacing the Awlgrip finish on the
    mast for the second time-last in 1998. Please put me back on the 424 email
    list. Jim Roberts, #219-cutter

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    in reply to: Transmission question #75398
    john stevenson
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    Rich,
    Do you have a Velvet Drive tranny?

    On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Rich Carter <> wrote:

    Quote:
    I thought I was probably the only owner with a folding prop. Mine works
    great. I removed the break many years ago. Once folded, there is no need
    for a brake. I briefly put the engine in reverse and then neutral and shut
    the engine down.

    Regards
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    in reply to: Transmission question #75395
    john stevenson
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    Aaaah, another religion-based discussion. You could have added a question
    on anchors to get more blood flowing. [?]

    I do not have a shaft brake, but I do have a Velvet Drive and a Maxprop.
    When I shut down the engine and resume sailing the Maxprop does not
    immediately fold. So the prop free-wheels. I have been told by the tech
    reps for the Velvet Drive and Walter that there is not adverse effect from
    this free-wheeling. However, it is noisy. With my previous transmission
    (Paragon) I could shut down the engine in gear and the prop would feather
    with no free wheeling. I have noticed that once the speed gets >6 kts my
    Maxprop usually feathers and the free-wheeling stops. So if you don’t
    believe the Velvet Drive & Walter experts or you can’t stand the noise, then
    maybe the shaft brake is a good option. I plan to live with it for now.

    On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Jubilee <> wrote:

    What are the general thoughts on the need of keeping the shaft brake on the
    velvet drive transmission with a folding prop?

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    in reply to: New head #75390
    john stevenson
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    Bob, with your aversion to soiled TP, you probably should not visit
    Portugal. In most of the public lavatories and everyone I encountered in
    marinas, they provide a waste basket for the TP and have sign saying not to
    flush the paper. In Spain it was less consistent, but then some of the
    marina toilets are BYOTP – something I discovered a little too late. A Brit
    with a roll of that crepe paper became my new best friend. At least there
    you can use your beloved Scott paper.

    FWIW, I’ve had to deal with clogged heads or sewage lines 4 times in almost
    40 years of sailboat ownership. In all cases the paper is what provided the
    clog, although scaling in the hoses was the real culprit 2 of the times.
    The first two times were with that so-called water soluble paper. Then I
    switched to the Scott TP that Bob loves. That stuff may eventually dissolve
    in water, but I think the timing is closer to the half-life of carbon than
    immediately.

    On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Robert Fine <> wrote:

    Quote:
    That sounds like an import-export opportunity!

    On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Joseph Steiner <>
    wrote:

    Quote:
    Yes, Rich, I have had good results with that, but I can’t find it in the
    Islands.

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    in reply to: New head #75374
    john stevenson
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    Adam,
    I don’t know how you make kids do this, but the solution is to never flush
    paper down the toilet. I stopped that practice years before I went to a
    compost head. For passages I provide paper lunch bags for crew and myself
    to deposit the paper for each use, then throw it overboard. Maybe you could
    get the kids to do this so they can watch how long it takes for the bag to
    sink in the wake. While at anchor or in a marina the papers go into a small
    waste basket next to the head. That basket is emptied into the galley
    garbage bag when it is taken to a dumpster.
    If you don’t think that will work with your family and decide to go with an
    electric head, I recommend a Lavac head with a maceration pump. If you pump
    into a holding tank, those heads minimize the amount of water that is used
    for the flush. I don’t think the electric version of the PH II will solve
    the paper problem as I believe it is just a electric water pump and not a
    macerator.

    On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Adam <> wrote:

    We also have the PH-II, but have considered purchasing a new electric head
    because of our “little people”. They sometimes put in too much toilet paper
    and it gets clogged. Always fun to clean out with a boat load of people.
    Let us know what you decide and how it works out.

    Adam

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    in reply to: New head #75371
    john stevenson
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    Dan,
    If you have a lot of other hoses in that passage under the ladder, try
    spraying a little Pam or other spray cooking oil on the outside of the hose.

    On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Joseph Steiner <> wrote:

    Quote:
    It’s a tight turn and the hose is stiff, but it will bend, especially if
    you heat it where you want to have it bend. I did it by brute force.

    Joe,

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    in reply to: New head #75349
    john stevenson
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    Lee,
    I think Pete Dubler has a WC Skipper head for sale. IMO that’s is the best
    flushing marine toilet ever made. A friend had one on his Cabo Rice. It’s
    nearly indestructible. Next to that, I agree the PH II is a good option.
    Even better option is to do away with all that plumbing and go with a
    composting head. I believe that is the reason Pete has the Skipper for
    sale.

    On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Jack P Clarke <>wrote:

    Lee I think that you can buy direct from Raritan.

    Jack
    Xanadu IV

    On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Robert Fine <> wrote:

    Hi Lee,

    I agree with Jack. The Raritan PH II works and works and works.
    Rebuilding
    is easy, the kit is about $60, and I’m very happy with it.

    I’ve had the PH II on my last three boats including this one. I actually
    replaced the Jabsco one on my Ranger with the Raritan but at that time,
    they
    were only $150 or so.

    Apparently, the price of pooping has become astronomical. They run much,
    much more now. I suspect the theory is that you’re going to poo –

    there’s

    nothing you can do about it. So we (Raritan) can charge what we want!
    Muahhahahahahaha!

    Still, it’s a good head and it can be electrified.

    Bob

    On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Jack P Clarke <

    wrote:

    Hi Lee,
    We have a Raritan PH II that works very well for us and we have been

    living

    aboard for four years with no problems (knock on wood). It came with

    the

    boat and I put a kit in it right away.

    Jack
    Xanadu IV

    On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Lee Yonkers <>

    wrote:

    I need a new head. The cheap Jabsco that was on the boat just isn’t
    acceptable. Any recommendations?

    Lee

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    in reply to: Life raft cradle #75301
    john stevenson
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    Adam,
    I also thru-bolted the cradle on the center line beneath the boom.
    This picture shows the location:
    http://www.svsarah.com/Sarah/Images/New%20Hatches%202.JPG
    This cradle is for a Switlik 6-person raft. I really didn’t put that much
    thought into it at the time, but for being out of the way when sailing it
    has worked well enough. From the point of view of deploying the raft I don’t
    think there is a perfect position, because you cannot anticipate what the
    deck is going to look like when you finally decide to deploy. However you
    may want to take into account deploying the raft with the boom out of
    control. Tor’s raft position might be better than on the center line.
    One draw back to the center line position is that it makes it difficult to
    fit a center line jack line when sailing off-shore. So I hook into the
    windward jack line on the side decks and cross over the cabin trunk if I
    need to work on the leeward side. Then that life raft is in the way once
    more. Everything is a compromise. From that perspective, once again I
    think Tor found the better location.
    Hal Sutphen told me he put his raft on the sea hood for the forward
    companionway – another possibility. I assume he then thru-bolted the sea
    hood. Chuck Ruble might be able to confirm that.

    I am not as height-challenged as Bob or Tor, so the raft is not a visual
    impediment for myself :).

    On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Robert Fine <> wrote:

    That’s a good place for it, too. Mine’s forward center under the boom and
    I
    was hoping it would allow me to carry the inflatable dinghy fully inflated
    in the space after (I moved the main sheet forward to the mast and back
    from
    there). But the dinghy (10.5′) is too long. No joy.

    The discussion is whether the raft can be worked around when it’s not
    needed
    yet released when it is without fouling in something when it is.

    But either way, you need to through-bolt it.

    Bob

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    in reply to: FW: Where’s the lead? #75295
    john stevenson
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    Parts may be difficult to obtain and expensive when you leave the states,
    but the expertise you need is in the cruising community not just the
    shore-based, never gone cruising radio experts. These experts can get you
    started, but the real support is in the anchorages. Join the Waterway Club
    (and other nets) and you will gain access to real world knowledge, and
    people who will help for the reward of a six-pack or a dinner or just a
    thank you.
    I’m not disparaging the shore-based radio community, one of my best friends
    has a business setting up HF radios on cruising boats. I lean on his
    expertise frequently. It’s just that they can get you only so far.

    On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Alan <> wrote:

    Quote:
    Bob, Here is my suggestion. Get it ALL working before you leave the US. Not
    only are parts difficult to obtain, but expertise is also a little thin out
    there.
    Alan

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