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I have always had strong feelings against lazy jacks. Although convenient
when into the wind, they don’t allow setting or dousing sails off the wind.
A favorite trick of mine is to lower the main behind the jib, in other
words, let the main out far enough to back wind and then drop it. Big no-no
with lazy jacks.They create wear on the sail, they’re only useful when the sail is down,
they are a constant source of irritation (to me) when dealing with the main
halyard, more things to wear out. I’m sure given enough time I could come
up with more.But for every reason I don’t like lazy jacks there is someone on the list
absolutely loves them.Bob
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 4:05 PM, S V Navasana wrote:
I need to install a system as my new sail does not have the Dutchman
buttons installed ( Dave, my sailmaker, was adamant about not putting more
holes in “his” sail).
Any one have a layout they are happy with?Eric Lorentzon
EFI Sales Development Manager
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I don’t know about looting, but I turned the midship hatch so it opened aft
for breeze in port, non interference with boom vang, and so on.Bob
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Aug 12, 2011 12:57 PM, “”
wrote:My v-berth hatch opens on the forward edge. I believe I have heard
something about offshore racing, looted or someone specifying that all
hatches open on the aft side. Can anyone provide wisdom or references on
this quandary?Thanks
Pete
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A long time ago John Stevenson and I had a discussion about the space –
about how we had laid out the door, marked with extreme care, cut the
fiberglass and watched, moderately horrified as the cutout went skittering
down below the seat area never to be seen again.You may ask yourself, “What’s the point of this story?” and I will happily
elucidate.I thought to myself that if the area below the seat was large enough to
swallow a rather big piece of fiberglass it is large enough to be stowage.
So I put a 6″ inspection plate which fits (just) on the shower stall face of
the seat. There is quite a bit of room in there, too, which is inaccessible
when reaching from the top. Also, if you do lose something from the top you
can get it back out by reaching through that plate.I use those vacuum space saver bags to put spare blankets, sheets, towels
and so forth more or less just heaped in the space. I hardly ever go in
there so organization is not a big issue. I haven’t stowed anything under
the seat yet. But I still have empty drawers in the v-berth…Bob
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 8:54 AM, wrote:
Quote:I glassed in a shelf down low with the intention of putting the shower sump
pump there. I then put in a higher wooden shelf and painted the whole thing
on the inside with bilge-coat. I was unable to route the sump hose into the
new space however and ended up putting the sump pump under the galley sink
near the freshwater pump. The sump pump had been mounted in the bilge
previously and I always had trouble with corrosion from the damp air. I
have no idea what I’ll put in the area that was supposed to be for the sump
pump.Rich
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Hi Dawn,
I use that area for dry goods like rice, coffee, and so forth so no shelving
needed. You could use baskets that you can get at WalMart to organize the
stuff (I prefer the patented Bob Fine method of stacking and shoving, etc.
so you may not want to take my advice).I have seen half of the section (over the stove) used as a microwave. What
we don’t know or remember is if you have the ‘U’ shaped galley or the ‘L’
one.Bob
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Dawn Rodney wrote:
Quote:Hi everyone
Does anyone have any suggestions for redesigning the port galley storage
area that is behind the sliding doors? If so, do you have any pics? Ours
is completely open right now and we don’t have any shelving or organization
at all.
Thanks for your help!
Thanks,
Dawn
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No worries…
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Jul 20, 2011 11:10 AM, “pat noordsij” wrote:No need to respond
Sorry for all the testing
– pat
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Thanks, Phil. Sadly, when you’ve chosen to work on boats owners seem to
really want to use them! It’s so inconvenient…I tried to get Mark on Nokomis to head out there, but he’s getting work
done…All the best!
Bob
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Philippe Fontaine wrote:
Quote:Bummer.
Work – the curse of the drinking class!
See you another time.
Phil
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Hi Phil,
With abject apologies to you and the others arriving at the rendezvous, I
have to beg off from the festivities – I’ve just gotten a big job I have to
start and will be doing a delivery from Halifax next week so I am too
pressed for time to make it out and back.If nothing else, please hoist at least one for me!
Bob
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Philippe Fontaine wrote:
Hi All,
I have updated the attachment with the latest information received from
attendees. With apologies to Bob Fine I have also belatedly substituted his
previously suggested coordinates for anchoring location, which corrected a
small error in my originally proposed coordinates and moves us a bit further
away from the channel. It is only about 100 yards different from the
previous coordinates.Dolores and I will bring condiments (mustard, relish, ketchup), baked beans
and brownies to share at the cookout. Feel free to coordinate other dishes
as you wish. Gas grills will be available for cooking as will a stove to
reheat dishes if required.Look forward to seeing you all soon.
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Pelican came with two 4D batteries in the Stbd lazerette. I replaced them
with 2 AGM batteries and added a third behind the water heater for the main
bank. The second bank is 2 group 31 AGMs for emergencies.Then I added a Xantrex Freedom 2000 charger/ inverter plus 2 135 watt solar
panels. When sailing link offshore passages, I hook up my shaft generator.Bob
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Jul 5, 2011 12:04 PM, “Philippe Fontaine” wrote:Aurora is a 1980 ketch and also has the house batteries (two size 8D) in
the
stbd lazarette. I added two size 24 starting batteries in the same locker,
Quote:just aft of the house bank. No charger/inverter.
Phil
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No, most injectors are similarly connected.
Bob
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On Jul 2, 2011 5:35 PM, “cstewart” wrote:I had thought of swedging a fitting onto a brake line but those ferrules
look different from any I have seen. They are not cone shaped, but are round
and fit succinctly into the injector. Will a diesel shop have something like
that or is it unique to the Westerbeke injectors?
"People cannot discover new lands until they have the courage to losesight of the shore."
Andre Gide 1869-1951
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I’m not sure if you can replace that line specifically, but a length of
brake line, a swager tool from West Marine, and a new nut from a hydraulic
place may do the job.Those nuts’ torque specs are in the inch-pound range. Over tightening is a
big source if failure.Bob
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On Jul 2, 2011 7:34 AM, “cstewart” wrote:I just blew a high pressure injector line that goes between the injector
pump and the injector. Facing the rear of the engine it is the no 1
cylinder. It looks like the ferrell (flange) has cracked. The symptom is
fuel spraying from the back of the nut. When I hardened down on it the nut
cracked. Probably the nut was already fractured and was causing the seeping.
We had just motored several days through the Erie Canal and have just
entered the Hudson River when yesterday we smelled diesel fuel. Does anyone
know of a source of injector lines and perhaps injectors for the W 60?
Thanks. I am stranded in NY (somewhere) with a horizontal mast and no
engine.
"People cannot discover new lands until they have the courage to losesight of the shore."
Andre Gide 1869-1951
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Ditto, with pad eyes in cockpit and a dual tether so I’m always clipped even
when changing attachment points.Bob
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On Jun 29, 2011 6:40 AM, “Thatcher A. Stone” wrote:FWIW
I have an extra long tether that allows me to go across the beam at its
widest point.I have jack line webbing on a cleat at the stern that lies in the gunwale
and runs fore to another cleat for the anchor. I put my tether on thatjack
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Like Tor, I keep three things in that space – shampoo, a scrubber sponge
(for the same reason) and a fake chamois called ‘The Absorber’ (about $15 at
West Marine, less at auto part stores) for wiping down the shower except for
the ring.Twice a year I clean it super well and wax it with the Starbrite PTFE
cleaner wax and it lasts for quite a while.In addition, I keep the seat top inboard of the head so the pit is always
open and dries. Also, I have a clip with a hook that’s attached to the
middle of the shower curtain. When I’m done, I hook it to the lip under the
portlight so that the curtain dries and there isn’t an area of wet under
plastic on the floor and wall of the pan.Sounds complicated, huh?
Bob
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:I keep 3 things in that space: shampoo, a scrubber sponge, and a small
pail. The scrubber sponge is for the dirt ring around the shower pan,
The pail is for catching the cold water that comes from the shower
nozzle before the hot water reaches it, water that would otherwise be
wasted. Then I add a little hot water to it and use it for bathing.The mini clothes washer is a great idea. I do the same thing with a
bucket (with a tight lid), which I lash on the foredeck where the motion
is most amplified. When conserving freshwater, you can wash & rinse
clothes in seawater, and then give a final, frugal rinse in fresh to
remove the salt. Works great!Tor
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My home port is City Island, although I berth in Stamford.
Bob
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Thatcher A. Stone wrote:
Quote:PhilMy home port USED to be Snug Harbor, RI. That’s right, two miles from our
dinner. Now it is Jamestown, RI.
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If anyone wants to reach me, I’m at 845 596 4641 – and thanks Phil, you’re
the best!Bob
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Jubilee wrote:
Thank you Phil!!! In case anyone needs to reach us, our cell is
508-685-2334. We expect to arrive on the 9th. We look forward to
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I hope to arrive on Friday and leave Sunday. If that helps anyone.
Regards,
Bob
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Philippe Fontaine wrote:
Hi group.
The Point Judith Yacht Club is agreeable to our having a cookout there on
Saturday.It appears we will have five or six boats, depending on whether Thatcher
comes by land or by sea, and 10 or 11 people plus however many will be on
Black Sheep.Since there were three boats planning to arrive on Friday, Dolores and I
will plan on doing the same. Rich, since you indicated that you might arrive
as early as Thursday If you can call me the day before and give me an ETA,
Dolores and I will plan to be there. If you wish you can come to the head of
the pond and raft to us. By then you will probably be ready for water, ice
and shopping etc. and we can help you take care of that.The attachment summarizes the location that I think we have agreed on as
well as other information from the various responses. If anyone wants to
make additions or corrections give me the information and I will update and
send it out again.Phil
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