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ModeratorHi Pete,
Check this out:
http://shopping.rexmar.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=stainless-rubrail
I think it’s what you’re looking for and it’s fairly reasonably priced.
They also make the end caps.Bob
On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Pete Dubler wrote:
Bob’s mention of Vulcan Metals reminded me to ask our illustrious and
well-connected group if any of you are aware of a particularly good-priced
source of solid 1″ stainless rub rail. I am willing to buy just half oval
solid stock and drill it myself on my mill, but everything I have found so
far is out-of-sight pricewise. I need like 160 feet in order to do the toe
and rub rails.Thanks,
Pete
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ModeratorHey, Pete,
Usually the rub rail (since bronze went out of style) is not solid – it’s a
stamped or rolled product with the holes already drilled. It’s far less
expensive and not so heavy, either. Let me see if I can find a source for
it.Bob
On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Pete Dubler wrote:
Bob’s mention of Vulcan Metals reminded me to ask our illustrious and
well-connected group if any of you are aware of a particularly good-priced
source of solid 1″ stainless rub rail. I am willing to buy just half oval
solid stock and drill it myself on my mill, but everything I have found so
far is out-of-sight pricewise. I need like 160 feet in order to do the toe
and rub rails.Thanks,
Pete
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ModeratorHi Joe,
Thanks! That’s an interesting arrangement for your radar – if it’s your
radar I’m looking at. Off the starboard side abeam of the mizzen mast?Bob
On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Joseph Steiner wrote:
Quote:Here is one picture I have of my davit system integrated with my solar
panels. I
hope this is useful.
cheers,
Joe
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madsailor
ModeratorHi Eric, that sounds pretty much my idea. I don’t think the difference in
dinghy length will be too much.What stern ladder do you have, and can you use it with the dingy raised?
Bob
On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 9:27 AM, S V Navasana wrote:
I mounted mine online with the uprights of the rear rail. Also used marine
parts depot for cross bar hardware. I ran horizontal bars from the davits to
the uprights. And cross braced them to the aft rail.
Mounted two crossbars for my panels (I opted for 2 keroceya 54watt panels.
I do have a center mounted stern ladder and have clearance to deploy and
retrieve it. When dingy is in davits it dies not chafe on the ladder.
My dingy is a 9’8″ inflatable. I also had relocate my stern light to the
outermost cross brace as it was totally blocked by adding all the stuff.
Would post pics but am on the road next ten days.Eric Lorentzon
EFI Sales Development Manager
412.352.1941
Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 5, 2011, at 6:10 AM, Robert Fine wrote:
Hi All!
Well, I’ve sold my Monitor wind vane (thanks to Patrick I got a great
price), and have ordered and received my davits and solar panel.Here’s my question – how far apart should the davits be, or, where have
you
put yours with respect either to the center of the stern rail or the
uprights? Do you also have a stern ladder?Thanks for any info you can provide.
By the way, the best deal I could get for the davits were from Martek in
Florida where their davits with the bottom fitting and backing plates and
rail mounting hardware were $1098 (1.25″ tubing, 300lb rating for eacharm)
– they provided free shipping for products over $1000 (saving $79) plus
$100
off so that the total price was $998. I got the lifting gear from
Garhauer
for $350 because it’s prettier than the Ronstan stuff Martek and comes
with
everything (Martek charges for the blocks – $200, lines $150, and rail
mounted cam cleats $90). Garhauer provides the whole six part tacklewith
the rail mounted cam cleats.
I purchased the solar panel, a 12V, 135 watt Kyocera with shipping was
$470
from Northern Arizona Wind & Sun. Unbelievable how much solar panels
have
come down!
Although Martek supplies cross members (stabilizer bars), I purchased
fittings from Marine Parts Depot who supplies good SS fittings at verylow
prices, and I’ll get the tubing from the metals place, Vulcan Metals,
near
me, where you purchase metal by the pound. Very reasonable.
I’ll be providing pictures as the project continues.
Thanks for any measurements you can provide!
Bob
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ModeratorHi Alan,
Naturally, you’re correct. I should mention I have a 10.5′ dinghy.
Bob
On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Alan wrote:
Quote:Bob,
I can’t tell exactly where to put the davits. My PO had a larger dinghy so
he placed the davits farther apart. I have a smaller dinghy (10.3.) I can
tell you that it does not work too well having the arms far apart when you
have a smaller dinghy. So, I guess it would depend on the size of your
dinghy and where you intend to lift it from that will determine the distance
apart.
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madsailor
ModeratorHi Pete,
I’m sure you’ve figured this out. Sadly, you can run one or the other aft
with no difficulty, but not both given the small space allowed for it on
deck.Actually, if you don’t have a staysail, you might be able to do it.
I have on either side two stacked turning blocks – right now, I use the port
side for a preventer for the main boom and the staysail sheet. The other
side is a downhaul for the spinnaker and the boom vang.If you have single line reefing (which I don’t but you’re actually making me
think about) and you don’t use the same kind of preventer (a line led to the
stem head fitting and back to the end of the boom) and you don’t have a
spinnaker down haul, you could conceivably run the main halyard and reefing
line back.As far as reinforcing the deck goes, that’s what the rod in front of the
mast is for,However, realize that it stacks the lines on each side which you may not
like.Bob
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Pete Dubler wrote:
A little lighter topic…
So no one has run their main halyard and main reefing line aft to the
cockpit?Pete
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ModeratorHi Tor,
Sadly I agree with both of you – the captain and crew have a choice. True,
it’s a well traveled path and should be protected to some extent but it’s
not the Royal Navy’s problem. Until the UN Security Council comes up with a
plan, it’s catch as catch can there. But it is avoidable.To Rich’s point – I agree with the blockade idea – honestly, a better idea
is to turn Somalia into an ashtray but not politically expedient.Sadly, for Somalia, there is no penalty for their actions. A 200 mile no
travel zone around their coast would be a start.However, once again, an easy, cheap, and effective solution is not the one
we take (we being humans). Instead of an international effort to air drop
food, clean water and medical supplies in such great quantities that it’s
impossible to confiscate it all we’d prefer to use military force because
it’s so much cooler. I mean, what’s the point of having weapons if you
can’t deploy them?From my perspective, why did the US Navy wait until there was gunfire? It’s
clear that negotiation doesn’t really work with these pirates (that’s why
they’re pirates). Our forces could swim over by night, take the vessel
quietly by force. The result might have been the same but it might not
have, too.It’s sad that a little pissant country can cause so much consternation but
in an increasingly shrinking world there is no place for a country like
that.Bob
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:Excuse me, but I thought the captain of a boat is responsible for the
safety of his vessel. Those cruisers chose to sail in some of the most
pirate-infested waters in the world. I’m sorry they were killed. I blame
the pirates for the murders, not the Royal Navy. But above all I blame
the yacht captain for choosing to place his boat, his crew and himself –
unnecessarily! – in a situation known to be extremely dangerous.
Similarly, the individuals who chose to accompany the captain in those
notoriously dangerous waters were not forced to do so. They each made
their choice, and it was a bad one.Call me callous, but I believe each of us is responsible for our
decisions and the consequences of those decisions, not some government
agency. It’s called being a grown-up, and it’s the price of freedom. And
that goes double for a captain.Tor
Silverheels, P-424 #17
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ModeratorI have the water heater and 1 – 4D battery and one Group 31 battery.
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:18 PM, John Stevenson wrote:
Patrick,
I have the same 3 lockers under the bunk. The middle one is where my
6-gallon water heater is located. My AC frig compressor is in the aft one.
The aft locker is next to the engine.On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Patrick “Peaboy” Walters <
> wrote:Not counting the two drawers under the the bunk that I converted to
cabinets, I have three accessible areas from under the mattress. One is
outboard and forward, the other two are aft of the two drawercabinet
cavities on the front of the bunk and next to the engine.Do those of you with the water heater under the aft bunk have a fourth
area
just outboard of the two lockers next to the engine?
My water heater is fine where it is in the port lazaretre, but I was
thinking if some of you have found an additional space under the aft bunk
big enough for a water heater, then I need to plan to open up the spacefor
additional storage.
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ModeratorI gotta ask. What’s a fraudulent cable?
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ModeratorThat’s the stuff! Neverseize!
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Alan wrote:
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madsailor
ModeratorI wouldn’t – I’d use high temperature pipe dope. I forget the name of it,
but it’s silver and it will allow you to remove the fitting years from now
when it rots again.Bob
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Rodd Leeds wrote:
Need to replace the exhaust elbow this year. Question is do I use permatex
on the elbow when screwing in the galvanized exhuast pipe, and do I use
permatex when fitting the “L” water injection hose fitting to the exhaust
elbow?Thanks.
Rodd Leeds
Windseeker, #214
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ModeratorIf you’re getting some rattle at low speeds don’t worry. If whine at high
speeds, go to gear oil instead of 30wt. Like 50wt or even 80 wt.Remember, these drives are usually hooked up to big noisy gasoline engines
so you don’t hear them. Also, those engines idle faster than diesels.Bob
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Alan wrote:
Quote:What worries me now, is that the noise I am getting is from the VDrive,
but because of a bad NEW damper plate.
Could be a B***** to replace now that I have engine back in….
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ModeratorHi Adam,
I might have a friend with one he’s getting rid of – let me ask if it’s the
model you’re looking for.Bob
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Adam Silverstein wrote:
Scored a direct hit with 300 lb ice chunk from cover onto radome, stored
under (but not quite under enough) hull. Inquiring now of anyone with either
an old furuno Rsb 0093 or a med range set they would part with. Jesus that
was stupid.
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ModeratorHi Dawn,
I’m not sure who you’re asking where they are, but you’ve asked everyone on
the mailing list where they are. I’m in Connecticut.Bob
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Dawn Rodney wrote:
Quote:Hi Allan
I’m from the Philly area. Most of my family still lives there. I moved to
Seattle 6 years ago. Mom is still in Yardley Bucks County and is ready to
move to Florida after this winter. Where are you located? And where do you
keep your boat?Thanks,
Dawn
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ModeratorI might just meet you there anyway!
Bob
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Feb 5, 2011 12:22 PM, “Seawater” wrote:I can do point Judith.
Anyone coming from down east is welcome to visit us in Padanaram or
Cuttyhunk.
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