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Thank you…. that confirms it.
I would have had to drive the 40 miles to measure
that…. thanks again
alan
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Your 2″ guess was pretty close. I measure it at 1
3/4″ to the highest point.

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Paul

Ooops…. need from top of riser to where the old
track is mounted. I think it’s 2 inches but need to
confirm for Garhauer.
thanks
alan
— Paul Lefebvre <> wrote:

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Hi Alan:

I measure it at just over 5 1/2 ” from the top of
the flange on the bottom
(5 5/8″ from the deck).

Let me know if you need any other measurements.

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I put in the Seaward 3174 last year. I just could not
justify the extra 500 bucks for the Force 10. I have
not been disapointed. It’s a great stove.
They are on just about every production boat out
there.
alan
— wrote:

Quote:

Replacing the boat stove is on my to-do list. It
costs between about $1000 and $1500 to replace the
unit. Given stiff competition from other various
projects on the boat for funds, it hasn’t worked its
way up to the top of the list yet. The oven stopped
working last year, so I’m stuck using the microwave
for anything that I might want to put in there. You
can’t make toast, and I’m not sure I’d want to cook
a rib-roast in there.

The original stove is a Hillerange Princess stove.
It’s not a bad unit, but it isn’t the best choice.
When you open the door, it unbalances the stove. It
would be a drop-in replacement and they are a good
value. They are still available from this guy for
about a grand + shipping.

http://stores.ebay.com/GEARBUSTERS

Force-10 makes a nice range that would fit in the
galley. It runs about $1400 + shipping.
http://www.postmarine.com/details.asp?item=63351

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I use the 40×50 silver tarp. I get 3-4 yrs out of it.
I use the old tarp under the new tarp to help the
chafe.
The boat is covered from Nov 1st til Apr 15th. Bad
great lakes winters…. lots of heavy snow and ice.
If youre in a windy area, do not use the gromets, they
will rip out in the first storm.
Next area no tarp……

alan
— wrote:

Holy smokes, 5 boat units for a winter cover! I
have a canvas cover that is almost 30 years old that
I’ve been nursing each year. It has so many patches
that it looks like a big quilt. I’ve been thinking
of replacing it, but I think I’ll put my boat units
elsewhere.

I’ve also been considering the purchase of one of
those huge silver tarps to be adapted as a cover.
Some assembly would be required, but I’d save over
$5 grand. I don’t store my boat in the water, so it
is easier to cover. I think the fabric used on
these is all the same, but the last two have sewn in
straps and grommets. I’ll measure what I have to
see which is closest.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=1438

or

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=1437

or

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=95730

or

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=95731

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When you refilled you system, you probably had a
“bubble” in there. After a fashion the bubble works
it’s way up and out….and was displaced by some
amount of fluid. Refill the reservoir. Keep checking
it though, mine has never needed any more fluid.
alan
— John Stevenson <> wrote:

Patrick,
I’m not sure how your external or overflow coolant
reservoir works. I
didn’t have one on my old W60. I filled the coolant
through the cap on the
engine reservoir. On my new Yanmar there is an
overflow reservoir. I have
been told to keep the coolant level on a cold engine
between the “Low” and
“Full” marks on the overflow reservoir. I add
coolant to this reservoir not
directly into the engine reservoir.
So if yours works the way mine does, you should add
coolant to that
reservoir – to what level I don’t know. Are there
markings on the
reservoir?
This appears to indicate you are low on coolant, but
probably not much. The
cooling system will probably maintain a normal
engine temperature until the
coolant level gets real low.

John

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Patrick Walters
<>wrote:

I’m thinking about this at my desk at work away

from my engine manuals.

During our test sail the engine over heated and

the heat exchanger was

boiled refinished and remounted. Since then we’ve

used the boat and the temp

stays at 180F when warmed up and we have good

water flow through the

exhaust.

The other day I pulled the cap off the coolant

reservoir in the port

lazerette because it was looking old and tired and

that tank was empty. I

was expecting it to be full like the radiator or

coolant reservoir in my

car. Anyway, now I’m confused as to what that tank

actually is and what I

should be seeing. Anyway, I was just pondering

this and thought I’d ask

since I don’t have my manuals at hand.

Thanks!
-p

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I am using a 16 ft spinaker pole
alan
— Silver Heels <> wrote:

I’m shopping for a telescoping whisker pole for my
ketch’s 130% genoa. What size (lengths/diameter)
whisker
poles are other 424 owners using for this? Any other
thoughts on the subject?

Thanks,

Tor
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Mine has 400 hrs on it…. 200 when I bought it (new
Tach). I bet it really has over 8000 hrs on it. In the
spring, after sitting all winter, just turns right
over and starts up.
alan

— pat noordsij <> wrote:

Our baby just turned over 3000 this past wkend. We
still love her. She
works much better now that we replaced the starting
battery

I could swear, however, that WB 58’s were 60 HP and
the WB 60’s were 56
HP..

What is the hull number of this boat?

– pat
Doris E, p424 #178

adam silverstein wrote, On 8/7/2008 5:04 PM:

4000+ and she purrs like a kitten (and belches and

wheezes and spits

and produces the occasional unidentifiable but

quite intriguing flatus).

-Adam Silverstein-iPhone
(“trust everyone but cut the cards”)

On Aug 7, 2008, at 5:06 PM, “kalinowski”

<

> wrote:

We are coming close to closing on our 1980 424

ketch. The boat has a

Westerbeke 58hp with 2500 hours. I’ve only dealt

with the Yanmar that

came new with our other boat. Questions:

Is this a reasonable hour usage for the engine or

are we coming close

to major refit? What is considered a “high” hours

total on this engine?

Thanks
Dan Kalinowski
(Soon owner of “Swift”)

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I am waiting for your leg work to be completed Tor,
because I have yet to resolve the same issues. Davits,
solar panels, Mizzen boom…. yikes…. gets a little
crowded back there!!
alan
— Silver Heels <> wrote:

Quote:

Jon,

Monday evening I emailed Cape Horn to ask whether
they had made any windvanes for 424’s. Owner Yves
Gelinas
replied the next day saying, “We have built two
self-steering gears for the Pearson 424 ketch…” I
ee’d him
back asking for those owners’ contact info, but he
may not want to divulge that kind of information
without
the client’s permission. So I thought I’d check with
the group, too. I’m in the “serious consideration”
stage
of a Cape Horn windvane for Silver Heels. My
intention is to combine it with a low-draw tiller
autopilot for
all-in-one self-steering.

Regarding the Cape Horn’s installation, I believe
I’ve resolved most of the external obstruction
issues, at
least in my own mind – protruding mizzen boom,
davits, aft cockpit dodger/bimini – but would be
very
interested to hear how they affect the vane’s
performance when you’ve had a chance to experiment.
I still have
some close measuring to do to decide exactly how I’d
configure the installation. In particular, I’m
interested
to know just where the CH quadrant lies in your boat
(forward or aft of the lazarette’s forward
bulkhead), and
how you ran the control lines into the cockpit and
where/how you secure them. Also, where would you
connect a
tiller-drive autopilot? And, of course, any and all
of your personal observations, etc.

Thanks,

Tor
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http://www.SilverHeels.us
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Was anuyone able to view the pictures I posted? Just
want to make sure that the link was ok.
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Only if you keep the boat in NY for 90 contigious
days. then you have to have it registered in NY and of
course pay t he tax….

I believe
alan

— Thatcher Stone <> wrote:

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Adam:-

Maybe I wasn’t clear. If you have a documented
vessel (IE, documented with
the Coast Guard and have an official number) NY says
you still have to
register your boat in NY. If you have a documented
vessel and the address
shows RI, they won’t care. Or any other State. But
if it shows NY and you
are not registered in NY it’s a citation and a lot
of paperwork. This is how
they make sure they collect the sales tax and the
use tax.

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Rodd
I have previously not put my name on the list as
attending for a number of reasons, all of which have
been settled. So, I will be attending – sans boat.
My S.O. (Beckie) and I will be arriving by car on
Saturday morning and will be staying on Rich Carter’s
boat Saturday evening.
We plan on attending the BBQ. I guess we just need a
dish to pass and somethng to burn.
Is there anything else you might think we need to
bring, besides the usual and PFD’s?

alan & Beckie

— Rodd Leeds <> wrote:

well, it looks like we’ll dodge the worst of a
tropical storm then it will be clear sailing for
those coming down from Buzzards Bay area.

I will be on scene Friday am and will look to see if
any others are anchored, or if not I will drop a
hook and get ready. I will be coming to my marina
on Thurs. nite late.

Dinghy dock is ready for us and we are all good to
go.

Bring down all kinds of questions and answers with
you–

As for the EH Town Police, Thatcher is correct in
saying they are prone to enforcement, but I’ve never
had an incident with them in the 28 years I’ve been
in this harbor. They do tend to harp on the rules,
especially where dinks are concerned, so have your
paperwork, flares, pfds and a whistle and you have
nothing to worry about (and a light at night).
There is a speed/water ski area at the very western
side of the harbor, so if anyone has a fast
inflatable that is where to use it. Otherwise keep
speed to no wake while operating between our
anchorage and the marina.

I will bring blank name tags so we can get to know
eachother easily. Also, please let the group know
if you are bringing kids, and their ages. My 2 kids
are 15 yr old boy and 17 yr old girl. They are
looking forward to meeting other kids in the group.

See you all at the end of the week– remember
channel 73 and hail ” Pearson Raft” when calling.
Safe passage!

Rodd Leeds
Windseeker

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Why, do you have some something to worry about?
a
— Robert Fine <> wrote:

Hi Thatcher,

Thank you so much for the info! How are they about
boarding yachts? Is
that typically an issue?

Bob

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Thatcher Stone
<> wrote:

Beginning Friday at about 4 PM or so…there will

be a P424 Ketch on a

mooring 100 yards directly West of the South Pier

of East Hampton Point, the

second major marina on the left as you mosey along

South to Red Nun 24. It

will be flying a barrage of signal flags. That’ll

be me, WAVEMAKER. After

you pass red nun 24 and enter the mooring channel

(Marked by new buoys) to

the West and in to the mooring field, turn North

to get back towards

WAVEMAKER. I’ll answer any questions before you

anchor, point out all the

POI’s and provide liquid refreshment and idle

conversation to anyone who

cares to dally. I recommend anchoring and rafting

north of my position. ALL

ARE WELCOME for refreshment before dinner. If the

flags are up I am afloat

and aboard.

IMPORTANT THINGS TO REMEMBER

1. DON’T TURN WEST UNTIL NUN 24 and then

into the new mooring

channel marked by a green and a red marker.

Otherwise you’ll be spending

too much time with Sea Tow instead of us.

2. Don’t go too close to the North end of

the Harbor – less than 80

yards or so – because the bottom gets shallow.

3. Use plenty of scope. Itinerant captains

have been known to

successfully anchor in absentia for over a week or

so, sans hurricanes.

4. WE have active, unpleasant and

unprofessional in my humble

opinion, Marine Police. Last weekend they

dispensed over 200 summonses

during the Bastille Day fireworks. IF YOU DINGHY,

FOLLOW THESE RULES OR YOU

WILL GET A TICKET REQUIRING A PERSONAL APPEARANCE.

Keep speed under 5 knots – all vessels all times –

in 3 Mile Harbor

Every person must have a PFD Type 1,2 or 3

available, and kids under 15

must have it ON incl. a dinghy. I suggest all

occupants put one on so you

won’t get stopped.

If you dinghy at night, you must have a position

light in addition to

PFD’s. You can buy one at West Marine that works

with two C batteries and

has a suction cup for your outboard top.

TRUST ME ON THIS. I have several citations to

prove it.

Remember, I am a lawyer, if you get cited, get in

touch with me. They often

screw it up.

DON’T SAY A WORD or they will make your life

miserable. I know of a case

where after informing a boater he was getting a

warning, when they asked for

the names of all the officers involved, since they

were so disrespectful and

unpleasant, the officer changed the warning to a

summons. They have nothing

else to do in East Hampton except make life

miserable for us tourists.

WAVEMAKER

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Bob Fine
Fine Software LLC
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I am excited at the prospect of not only seeing
everyones boat, but meeting all the faces behind the
e-mails.
Hey it’s only a 7 hour car ride, 1 1/2 ferry ride and
another another 1 1/2 car ride…..piece a cake!
ALAN

— Rodd Leeds <> wrote:

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Alan:

Yes, you will end up at Maidstone Marina/ Follow
the directions that have
been posted. Park in the lot and call someone on
the raft and we’ll ferry
you out.

As for eats, everyone will be bringing food for the
grill. We will be set
up behind the pool at Maidstone Harbor. Friday
Night will be pot luck
aboard the boats.

Glad you are coming!

Rodd
Windseeker

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Rich,
Great, I think I’ve been able to make the arangements
that I need.
I appreciate your offer of the two settees.
I have your phone number and will call you when we
arrive. Although I am sure anyone from the raft up
could take take us out there.
I am planning on being there around 10am baring no big
delays.
alan
585-330-9151

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Alan
Both settees are available. The v-berth may be
occupied by my daughter

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ok, I am pretty sure I can do this trip.
We’re going to dr ive down Friday nite to N ew London
and take the ferry 1st thing Sat. morning. Return the
the same way sometime on Sunday.
Are both settees available for berthing. I hate to
impose anymore Girl friend wishes to attend also.
Taking your daughter back to ferry would be no
problem.

alan
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Alan
I’ll have room. Please call to confirm. I’d like
to know for sure if you need the bunk and you never
know, if I have problems on the way down I may not
get there in time.

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