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Rich,
Unabated had a screen like that when I purchased her. Never had an issue and sodus bay is very weedy esp. at the dock.
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On Jul 16, 2013, at 12:55 PM, wrote:
Last weekend, my raw-water cooling system got clogged again. This seems to happen about once each year. It only seems to happen when the boat is not moving as when the engine is idling at the mooring or just started. A clump of seaweed gets stuck in the through-hull. There are only two reliable ways to unclog the through-hull, either dive under the boat and pull the weed out or back-flush it with a water hose. I’ve tried using the shower hose to back-flush but it doesn’t seem to have enough flow. I need to bring the boat to a dock and use a garden-hose. Here in the northeast, the water is typically cold and I’m reluctant to dive to pull the weed, so backflushing is the beast solution. I bought a sink drain snake but I haven’t tried it yet. My guess is that simply pushing the clog out an inch or two will only result in the weed getting sucked right back in.
I’m thinking of adding an external screen to the outside of the hull. I’m not sure that this will cure the problem however. The weed might just as easily get stuck on the screen. Has anyone installed one of these and have comments?
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I would suspect water intrusion. Possibly the transmission heat exchanger.
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On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:33 AM, “Jubilee” wrote:
Put the transmission into gear to leave the mooring this weekend and didn’t have the forward thrust I thought I should have had with a vibration that felt like the prop was fouled. Put her back on the mooring and dove on the prop. Some barnacles, which I thought might have caused some vibration. Worked the prop a bit and freed it up. Back on board we started out again. Some vibration still and still short on thrust. Went sailing anyway. Came back to mooring and checked the transmission, then the transmission fluid. Oh No! Milky transmission fluid. Any ideas? Input please? What do I do next?
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RigRite has parts. They’re bastards to deal with though !
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On Jul 14, 2013, at 4:52 PM, “Page Two” wrote:
Not ever really looking at the details of the gooseneck on the 424 but having fabricated from wood and had cast, then machined and installed custom bronze goosenecks on a 50′ schooner, I can tell you for sure from that picture “something is missing” !
Is it possible the mating boom fitting fits in as what appears to be a missing bushing?
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I miss the adrenaline rush and the morning weather on SSB of a good system moving in.
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On Jul 9, 2013, at 8:16 AM, “Silverheels” wrote:
Quote:Alan,It’s a very rainy day down here in Grenada. Bulbous storm clouds darkening
the sky wall to wall. Great day for topping off the water tanks. Meanwhile,
the wind is flat calm at the moment (although it’s expected to blow 25 knots
tonight). I guess the storm has sucked it all up to blast near its center,
which is way north of here. Looks like it’ll roll over Martinique or
thereabouts this afternoon. But never mind TS Chantal. Check out the
projections on PassageWeather and GRIB for next Tuesday’s storm. Looks like
it’ll be much larger and better organized than today’s little upstart. That
one is also predicted to pass over or near Martinique at this point. C’est
la vie.Tor
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How’s the weather down there?
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On Jul 9, 2013, at 7:08 AM, “Silverheels” wrote:
Quote:I agree with John. They both do the job. Silverheels came with a stuffing
box. When I re-powered, the installation mechanic offered to throw in a new
PSS for free – I guess he had a bunch on the shelf – so I said sure, do it.
Otherwise I’d still have the original stuffing box. No big deal either way.Tor
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Have had one for 9 years. Life is good.
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On Jul 8, 2013, at 5:59 PM, “sumocean” wrote:
It is time to do something to the stuffing box. The yard suggested that I replace with a dripless shaft seal. No more worry about the age of the shaft log and no water in the bilge. Has anyone had any experience with these. I feel like in an old post someone said they had one installed.
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Just don’t call Siri the B word.
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On Jul 6, 2013, at 7:41 PM, “Thatcher A. Stone, Esq.- Attorney Communication” wrote:
Quote:Point taken.OK, I have to get back to work. Big trial Monday 930 AM.
Apologies with Siri. That girl screws up every time I talk to her.
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The topic of adding more scupper volume to the cockpit was discussed a few years ago. I believe the consensus was you’d have to add some pretty large devices to drain that much water that quick. Of all the 424’s that have crossed oceans many times, none have been pooped to cause a concern.
Money and hind better sprint elsewhere. Like proper storm gear.
Alan
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On Jul 6, 2013, at 6:42 PM, “Page Two” wrote:
Pete did it help your premiums? It should! I think Tor makes a great point about insurance, who’s making the calls to determine the risk/cost?
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If I remember correctly three years ago Al Golden insured me for the entire Caribbean basin including Bermuda and also allowed me to single hand for not more than 30 hours and I believe I paid $2800.
I am currently insured with boat US for the great lakes and I pay a little bit less thousand dollars.
Al Golden is a great company to work.
I question your hull value. with the current number 424’s that have been sold, I kind of think 125 is pretty high, And whether once surveyed whether an insurance company will actually declare a hull value of 125,000.
Just saying
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On Jul 5, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Pete Dubler wrote:
Well it’s time to move the queen, Regina Oceani, back to salt water. We working on setting up the trucking for early August and I stated to look at the insurance for the boat being in Melbourne, Florida. I was amazed at the BoatUS $3890 quote for a $125,000 hull value ($3645 with an $85,000 agreed value).
I know the insurance discussion has graced these pages many times before, but I thought I might ask for some current inputs and thoughts. Has anyone worked with Al Golden? Other thoughts?
Thanks,
Pete
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I whole heartily agree with Tor.
Especially in the middle of the night with the wind howling.
To those that call them granny bars, I ask them if they have ever left the dock!Besides they make a great a place to tie off halyards and hang dock lines from. Sort of nautical looking I’d say.
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On Jul 4, 2013, at 8:21 AM, “Silverheels” wrote:Quote:Forgive me, Dan, but “granny bars” and “chicken bars” are dangerously
flippant terms for something so important, suggesting that a real man
wouldn’t use them. No doubt you picked it up from some “sailorman” who has
never been to sea. Every crewmember who has ever sailed offshore aboard
Silverheels agrees with me that those mast pulpits are absolutely
invaluable. I shudder to think of working up there at the mast in rough
conditions without them. You’d literally risk life & limb and have to work
one-handed, if you could work at all. In some situations it’d be pretty much
impossible to put in a reef. Scary.IMHO,
Tor
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My first phone call would be to Cleve from Sea frost and explain what you have and what you would like to do and see if he has any replacements for you. if not, he can probably suggest what you would need to do to upgrade to a newer unit. I would trust him explicitly. I’m sure there are other 424 owners who have used SeaFrost and would collaborate my opinion of that company.
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On Jul 2, 2013, at 3:34 PM, “Thatcher A. Stone – Confidential Attorney Communication” wrote:
To friends and the readership:-
Who was the mfr. Of orig equip for the fridge. Adler Barbour? I am 500 miles
from the boat presently.Has anyone repaired or replaced the units (compressor, lines, evaporator)?
If so, did you replace the whole system or just the compressor?
In either case, with what?
Many thanks.
T, wishing he was on the Wavemaker
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Maybe you need to sharpen the blades on the plow!
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On Jun 30, 2013, at 5:11 PM, “Silverheels” wrote:
Quote:OK, disclaimer first. Half the guys on this forum know a lot more about boat
equipment than I do, and that’s not false modesty. But I believe I did get
the chain locker right. However, I have not done anything with or to the
forward water tank. (I keep threatening to cut it open for storage, but
never seem to get around to it.) That tank is not part of my chain locker.
Nor do I ever put water in it because, as you suggested, it’s not necessary
with 100-gallons in the salon tanks plus a watermaker. Also I can’t afford
the weight up there – Silverheels is already a tad bow heavy. If I could
afford the weight, I’d probably convert that tank to fuel.I’ve been using my CQR as the primary. For decades I’ve had great luck
getting CQR’s to set and hold. For some reason, though, lately I can’t get
this damned thing to dig in anywhere. I anchor the way I always have, which
is pretty close to correctly, and it doesn’t set. I’ve taken to diving on in
and hand-setting it every time I’ve anchored this past week just so I could
sleep at night. So, I just might switch over to my big Manta as the primary
anchor. That sucker has never failed to set on the first try.That weird-looking PVC fitting on Silverheels’ aft combing is a deck pipe I
sort of invented (thank you, Home Depot) for my stern anchor, which is a
22-lb HT Danforth. I’ve deployed my stern anchor just once in the past 5
years of cruising, and didn’t really need to then. However, if you go to the
Med (or some marinas in the French islands down here) you may use a stern
anchor for Mediterranean mooring if you dock bow-to, which I much prefer,
rather than stern-to the quays. You might want to mount that Bruce you’re
not going to use on the bow back there.Tor
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And autopilot…. Don’t forget the autopilot has been invented since you started sailing.
Sitting in Boston waiting for flight to Rochester that has been cancelled and have to go to Philly instead then to rochester. Started out in NYC this morning.
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On Jun 30, 2013, at 5:05 PM, “Silverheels” wrote:
Quote:Damn, really? I gotta’ get past this old sextant & RDF. Sounds like there
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The weight up front is offset by the generator in the back.
Opinions are like anchors, everyone has a different one!
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On Jun 30, 2013, at 4:35 PM, “Page Two” wrote:
Hello unabated, a 60# er on the 5/16 seems a good call weight wise. The CQR has always been my primary and I’ve been comfy with it but thought with this size boat a 45# would be a little light. I’ll be starting out with 230′ 5/16 and 5/8 rode after that. Sounds like I’m going to be alright starting out with what I got. Thanks Bob!
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60 lbs Manson supreme with 275 ft of 5/16 HT chain.
Dual snubbers.
45 lbs Bruce on 100 ft 3/8 chain w/ 200ft 3/4 nylon.
Slept well throughout eastern Caribbean. And Bahamas.
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On Jun 30, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Robert Fine wrote:
Quote:The most common anchor I’ve seen on the 424s are the 45# CQR. I have one
of those I never use and a 35Kg Bruce which has been splendid. I carry 250
ft. of chain fore and aft and the spare anchor is a 25 lb. Fortress. I’ve
held 6 424s in a 15kt breeze with the fortress and the 40′ chain/250 nylon
rode.There are as many opinions about anchors as there are boats to be
anchored. My advice to you is to pick an anchor that works well for you
and you’ve grown accustomed to in former boats and use one of those sized
appropriately. There should be at least one boat length worth of chain if
you’re using a mixed rode and two is not a bad idea. If you really like
being sure, use mostly chain. Make sure you’ve made provisions for
snubbing lines if you do use all chain.The key to anchoring is to learn how to anchor. How to know when it’s set
(and not merely hooked on vegetation), and how to raise it without breaking
your back (if you don’t have a windlass).5/16ths chain is perfectly fine. Two types of anchors at least that cover
all the anchoring grounds you’re likely to encounter. There is an anchor
like a Delta with a roll bar on top which are favored because they roll to
a plow down position, but with my Bruce the only difficulty I’ve ever had
was anchoring in a swift creek – I couldn’t get it down fast enough and had
to keep raising it to try to move it farther from the bank. But realize
it’s 75lbs, and there’s nothing but chain.So, key points: Use what you know. Get one size bigger than recommended.
5/16″ chain is good enough but if your gypsy takes 3/8, use that. Learn
how to anchor your boat and your anchor. Wait a few minutes before
starting cocktail hour to make sure you’re not dragging.You should be good to go, and if not, you’ll have a great story as well as
providing amusement for the others at the anchorage..Bob
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:Hi Ken,Welcome to the zoo. Opinions about ground tackle are legion. Luckily for
you, mine is the correct one so I will share it. (:))I may own the only P424 with a proper chain locker, and that’s because I
built it. Big job, well worth it, at least to me. Even so, even though I
have the largest, deepest possible divided chain locker for a 424, I have a
problem with my primary chain pyramiding in the locker to the point that it
will clog the windlass gypsy if I don’t tend to it. (How I do that is
another story, but it works.) 150′ of 3/8″ chain on top of 100′ of 5/8″
line pile up in there. Also, my boat’s a bit bow-heavy. All this is to say
that if I were doing it again, I’d use 5/16″ HT chain.As for anchors (oh, boy, here we go), I’m using a 45-lb CQR and a 66-lb
Manta (on 50′ 3/8″ chain and, I think, 200′ of 5/8″ line). The Manta is or
was West Marine’s “Bruce” knockoff. I live at anchor all the time and sleep
well most nights.Bottom line? No way is a 424 going to break 5/16″ HT chain – unless you
lift
her out of the water by the rode.Have fun,
Tor
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