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Thanks, Bob.
I obviously had not looked at the Landfall Navigation prices for some time.
I don’t know why I thought it would be so expensive. I must have been
looking in the wrong places. I do remember it was very expensive back when
I made my initial purchases. A 1/2 boat unit is not all that bad.On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Robert Fine <> wrote:
Hi John,
I got my solas kit from Landfall for like $400. Comes with the bare
minimum
plus the waterproof container – I added a near coastal flare kit from West
for the dinghy – and this is important – the dinghy is supposed to carry
all
the safety equipment a motor vessel of that size – I know people in NY and
FL have been stopped and ticketed because they don’t have their
registration
or flares or sound making device. So I got the little kit and I taped the
registration inside of that.But you should be able to get it all for around $500, I think, maybe $600.
It’s a lot, I know, but it’s one of those things that if you need it you
need it bad…Safety gear in the UK is much less expensive, the problem being the
shipping
of pyrotechnics..Bob
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Tor,
I’m sure you don’t really want to change how you handle email, but I
recommend getting away from Outlook as your email client. Most cruisers I
know use gmail or yahoo. For one thing gmail doesn’t convert the signature
line into an attachment, it displays it as an URL, which you can ignore.
Click on the link below to see what your email looks like in gmail.
http://screencast.com/t/ODk0OGQ5ZWMThe nice thing about this web-based email client is that you don’t need to
download anything to check your inbox. If the attachments don’t interest
you don’t need to waste bandwidth on them. You can still use outlook as
repository on your hard drive for emails you want to be able to access when
offline. It does require getting a gmail address, but you can continue to
use your current email address as your public address. Gmail can be set up
to access your existing email account. And, of course, it is free. If you
are interested I can send you an invite to gmail. I removed Outlook from my
computers years ago. If you depend on low-bandwidth Internet access
(dial-up or WIFI) then Outlook can be a real killer (it may be different
today, I haven’t used Outlook for over 5 years).On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Silver Heels wrote:
Quote:Pat,I use MS Outlook to download email. As of Monday morning, most (but not
all)
forum emails are still arriving with a .txt attachment, but since your
email
message below the attachments are now all blank, i.e., there is no text in
them as there was before. Same problem with knowing when a “real”
attachment
is included with the message, though.Anyway, if I’m the only one getting them and they’re an unavoidable part of
the program, then it’s just karma. I appreciate that you looked into it.Break-Break
If anyone attaches anything to an email to this group, like a photo or
whatever, please consider writing “see attached photo” somewhere in your
email.Thanks,
Tor
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Patrick,
I think Don was referring to a single negative wire for a multiple light
fixture (e.g., Tricolor, Bow/Foredeck), where the lights are operated
independently. It saves on the number of wires in the conduit. Many of
these fixtures have a single negative terminal and separate positive
terminals for each light. Of course the negative wire must be sized to for
the combined load of both lights in the fixture.On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Patrick Walters <>wrote:
Quote:I left that off the drawing because I wasn’t planning on changing it all.
Someone else caught that too. In actuallity, since I’m putting in conduit,
I should just replace that wire too since none of the wire in the boat is
tinned. Might as well do it now instead of trying to do it later with the
mast up or having to drop the rig again to do it.When you say grounding wire, I’m not sure what you mean. Do you mean to
ground the mast to the bonding system or somehting else?-p
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Was the inventor's name Cutless?
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Rich Carter < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Quote:As far as I can tell by doing a web-search, they were originally called cutless bearings by the inventor since they were self-lubricating and didn't cut the shaft. Previously shaft bearings were made of Lignum Vitae, a kind of wood. The new bearings were originally manufactured by Goodyear (I think) using the cutless trade-name. They were later manufactured by another company using a cutlass logo and became popularly known as cutlass bearings much like my grandparents called refrigerators frigidairs. There appear to be more references to cutlass that cutless so I think its the more popular spelling. My own perference is to call them cutless because it refers to the device with its original name and not a brand-name. I think either spelling is perfectly acceptable however.
“In the beginning inboard propeller shaft bushings were wood, machined from the rock hard tropical Lignum Vitae tree. That is until the 1920s when a Californian mining engineer improvised a bearing using a chunk of common rubber steam hose pressed inside a sleeve. The modern day Cutless bearing replete with flutes and naval bronze tubing was born. Cutless bearing technology advanced during the WW II battle for the Coral Sea when reverberations from explosions in the water hardened the rubber in Cutless bearings. Battleship propeller shafts locked up solid. Rigid rubber was soon replaced by resilient nitrile rubber.”
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Unless you are dealing with the Patent Office: http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5860745/description.html
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Patrick Walters < ([email][/email])> wrote:
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Patrick,
I must had another senior moment, the wire in my mast in 10AWG not 12AWG. That is wire I installed. The Pearson wire from the mast terminal strip to the distribution panel is 12AWG, which was probably OK for the factory installed mast lights (all have been replaced). I had planned to replace the Pearson wire, but never got around to it. May have to try to get that done before spring.On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Patrick Walters < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Quote:I sent details on the PAFog Horn seperately, you were all right on that I had the math wrong.The 2.4Amp for the Spreader lights is for both lights together, not one. Their website says ~1A @ 12V. The packaging of the actual lights says 1.2A. I plan to hook them on a single wire, so 2.4A.
We have a bimini and don't have it up all the time. I admit those may not have been necessary and I thought about not doing them, but I decided to do it and I bought the lights so they are getting installed. Plus now I have the option to hang a disco ball from my mizzen halyard and I can angle the mizzen spreader lights to shine on it. 😉I think many of the things Pearson did in the factory were standard for the times, but would not be ok today or woudl be considered cutting corners (all manufacturers do it, I'm not picking on Pearson). I'm not re-wiring the entire boat to bring it up to ABYC standards, but I am trying to follow recognized best practices to guide anything new I'm installing. Using wiring that only allows a 3% voltage drop is what is reccomended today for marine wiring by ABYC (“Sailboat Electrics Simplified”, pg48, Don Casey). I think if you did the math on your systems you may find you're undersized. I'm sure it's working fine though too. I'm pulling some new wire so I want to do it “right” which for me means finding the recognized standards learning them and applying them. Plus all that research is 10% of the fun of having a boat! Th other 90% of the fun is in applying the learning to take you sailing safely to amazing places!
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Subject: Re: Mast Wiring PlansPatrick,
Are you planning a Bimini for the cockpit? If so, the mizzen spreader lights may not be of that much value. Those LED spreader lights seem to draw a lot of current, not that much less than my sealed beam spreader lights on the main mast. 8AWG for the PA horn seems a bit excessive for something that normally is only used by power boaters who like to announce their arrival at the fuel dock. I would re-think whether or not to fit that device. Another thought might be how often, if ever, would you use this device when not motoring, in which case the input voltage would be about 13.8V, allowing significant voltage drop and still provide 11.5V to the device. 12AWG ought to be sufficient in that case.
All of my in-mast wire is 12AWG – TriColor (LED now, but not when originally wired), Bow Light/Foredeck Light, spreader lights. Wire from the terminal strips in the forward cabin to the distribution panel are all 12AWG as well.
That is my freely given comments, worth every penny.On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Alan < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Quote:if you use the antenna/bridge arrangement similar to the IslandTime PC product – a CAT 5 cable is all that is needed and there is no signal loss. I have mine mounted on the mizzen spreader though. I can grab wifi signals from at least 2 miles…. maybe more.
On my way down here – i was sailing smack dab in the middle of the chesepeake and I was grapping all kinds of free wifi from the western shore.
alan
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Patrick,
Are you planning a Bimini for the cockpit? If so, the mizzen spreader lights may not be of that much value. Those LED spreader lights seem to draw a lot of current, not that much less than my sealed beam spreader lights on the main mast. 8AWG for the PA horn seems a bit excessive for something that normally is only used by power boaters who like to announce their arrival at the fuel dock. I would re-think whether or not to fit that device. Another thought might be how often, if ever, would you use this device when not motoring, in which case the input voltage would be about 13.8V, allowing significant voltage drop and still provide 11.5V to the device. 12AWG ought to be sufficient in that case.
All of my in-mast wire is 12AWG – TriColor (LED now, but not when originally wired), Bow Light/Foredeck Light, spreader lights. Wire from the terminal strips in the forward cabin to the distribution panel are all 12AWG as well.
That is my freely given comments, worth every penny.On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Alan < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Quote:if you use the antenna/bridge arrangement similar to the IslandTime PC product – a CAT 5 cable is all that is needed and there is no signal loss. I have mine mounted on the mizzen spreader though. I can grab wifi signals from at least 2 miles…. maybe more.
On my way down here – i was sailing smack dab in the middle of the chesepeake and I was grapping all kinds of free wifi from the western shore.
alan
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Thanks, Pat, for all your work. I've sent a donation.
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:38 AM, pat noordsij wrote:
I'm making copies of the entire pearson site today and will be moving it off tonight and tomorrow. The mailing list will move to a software package called Mailman. The forum will stay on BBForum.
All those who read this via the mailing list will receive new subscription notices and will be subscribed en-mass. Mailman also maintains it's own archive which is available via the web and has a good web interface for self-management of subscribing, unsubscribing etc.
I hope that I can make the forum move without interruption. ( It should – as the trial run of moving the database worked ).
I expect that mail delivery and web interfaces might be a bit bumpy as the web learns about where the site has moved to ( as the dns propagates the ip change ). Generally this takes about a day but may take up to 2 days.
In a previous thread, folks wondered what this costs. We're moving from $11 / mo (@wolfpaw.net ) to $7 / mo (@ greengeeks.com ). I know that I could have moved to a less expensive webhosting site much earlier – but I was lazy and no move is without its headaches. If you would like to contribute, it would certainly be appreciated. You can either donate by sending us a personal check or through paypal ( patn n-js.net ) .
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I think there is a lot of folklore about this name. I was told by a guy who was obsessed with marine terminology that the bearing was named after its inventor. I don't remember how this guy spelled the inventor's name.
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Robert Fine < ([email][/email])> wrote:
I stand corrected.
Sorry.
Bob
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Quent,
Thanks for the info on the crimper. I've just ordered one. I plan to redo all of the battery cables before spring, adding a separate starter battery bank. That little hammered crimper I've used for years, probably isn't up to this job.On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 9:36 AM, quent < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Pretty much what we did. On a similar note, has anyone tried the portable hydraulic tools that Harbor Freight sells? They have an electric cable lug crimper for $50 and also a 12 ton gear puller for a bit more.
I bought the crimper but have not yet used it. It appears to be a nice piece of gear, ideal for crimping battery cable lugs in the field, a remedy for that old measure once, cut twice problem.
Quent
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Dan,
Distilled vinegar is a good solvent for scale. Flush it into the system and let it sit for a few days each year or more often. I'm not sure scale is the result of urine mixing with salt water. I have a composting head which collects the urine in a bottle with no fresh or salt water. I still get scale on the walls of the bottles. Not like on sewage hoses with salt water, but it still accumulates.On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 3:57 PM, kalinowski < ([email][/email])> wrote:
I've just completed the wonderful task of rebuilding the head in Lady Leanne for the first time. My experience with this process is limited to the head in my Hunter, which has always been in fresh water.
I was amazed at the scale buildup I had to scrape out of LL's head fittings. After research, I found that urine mixes with salt water and creates this accretion, similar to kidney stones. If not dealt with, it will choke the lines. I learn something new every day.
How do the rest of you deal with this problem? Is there some additive you use or do just put this chore on the continuing maintenance list?
Dan Kalinowski
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Linus,
If you already have the boat documented, there is absolutely no need to use a service to update it. Unfortunately the USCG documentation service (in Falling Waters, WV – any wonder Robert Byrd will die in his Senate seat) only deals with snail mail. However all you have to do is mail the form back with any changes to the info and the renewal is free. If you renew late there is a fee. When I initially purchased Sarah I let the finance corp do the documentation. They charged me $75 to change the name of the boat. If there is a lien on the boat (as I had for the first few years) it may be necessary to let the finance corp do the initial documentation (to establish the lien). After that I did it myself directly with the USCG, including getting the lien removed once the loan was fulfilled.On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 3:49 PM, kalinowski wrote:
Linus: Lady Leanne is documented. The transfer of ownership just involved sending in an updated form. I just did the annual CG paperwork update through the mail. I think you could probably do all on line as it is a simple process.
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Jack & Particia Tyler went through the multi-step process of deciding to add a watermaker, picking one that met their needs and then installing it. They only considered the commercial products in their process.
http://www.svsarah.com/Whoosh/WhooshPacificPrepWaterMaker.htmlOn Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Robert Fine < ([email][/email])> wrote:
The Powersurvivor 35 does 3+ gallons an hour at 6 amp/hours. With the shaft generator running under sail, it powers it at 5.5 knots. Otherwise, need the engine or generator…
Bob
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Joe,
You can get the RNCs (raster charts) and ENCs (vector charts) from the NOAA site at: http://www.nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/staff/chartspubs.htmlOn Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:39 AM, joe shimkonis < ([email][/email])> wrote:
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When this thread started I downloaded OpenCPN for about the 3rd time in the last year or so. The previous times I gave up because it lacked several features – don't remember what they were so I guess they weren't really that important. This time the missing feature is stability.
I can't run the program on my Netbook with NMEA input (38,400B) for more than 15 minutes before I get the “We're sorry ….”” windows screen and the program aborts. The NMEA input does not include AIS as I'm too far from any shipping channels. I was really looking forward to an alternative to CE and Fugawi for coastal navigation with NOAA RNCs and ENCs.
I guess I'll take another look in the spring.On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Linus Martinez < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Quote:Bob
See it's I don't speak the language. I think of exporting as a method of sending the route to another application or device. I have played some more and can't wait to try it while hooked up to a GPS.
Thanks
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