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Our boat came with a 150 and no other jib. It was really just a big
heavy bed sheet. In ~2008 we spent about 4K. on a 150 and 130. The 150
is marked so we can reef to 130 and the 110 marked at 90. We keep one
on the deck in a deck bag while the other is hoisted. I can’t remember
what weight material the 150 is but it is significantly lighter than the
110. (we’re remembering 6oz and 9oz – but.. we’re old) Both have rope
luffs.I should be able but can’t tell you how well we can point with either
one. I guess while I’m geeky about somethings this is not one of them.
I can say that on light wind days ( months) the 150 is wonderful. We do
plan for the next day by swapping sails if we feel the next day might
warrant the smaller heavier sail.Each has its own set of sheets permanently installed. Neither is too
difficult to handle on their respective weather days.– pat
wrote, On 7/17/12 8:20 AM:
Quote:Walter,
With a ketch, there is little you can do to pull the sag out of the headstay. You might have success by having your sailmaker cut the sail flatter but its a compromise. If you have a fixed propeller, switching to a folding or feathering prop will provide significant gains in light air. Keeping your bottom clean is also a key to boat performance. You can have a diver occasionally clean your bottom or do a mid-season haul and a quick wash. I’ve cleaned my bottom using brush, mask, fins, and snorkel.A cruising spinnaker helps significantly when reaching and running in light air.
I have a 150% genoa. I’m shopping for new sails. I wouldn’t consider going down in size. Its a big sail and hard to sheet in with the Lewmar 48’s that I have. Reefing the headsail is a compromise. You lose sail shape and therefore pointing ability. I don’t know if you have the tall or short rig. I have a tall mast since I have a sloop. If you have the shorter stick, a 150 might not be as hard to sheet in. As for cut and material, consult with a local sailmaker. They know more about options and choices than we do.
Hope this helps
Regards
Rich
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I have this list go to my gmail account but don’t read it there
regularly enough to notice any glitches. Have you considered using
Chrome? Maybe a google product won’t display the same behavior when
being accessed by another google product.– pat
sv doris eJohn Stevenson wrote, On 7/16/12 11:03 AM:
Anyone else out there using gmail and on occasion having trouble with
threads on this other email lists?
One of the things I like best about gmail is that it organizes the emails
into lists such that a thread of many emails takes up only one slot in the
inbox. I can also delete all of the emails in a thread with one mouse
click.
However, on occasions the last email in the thread does not appear when I
open the thread. Doesn’t happen often, but when it does for a specific
thread it persists for that thread. The only way I can see that last email
is to close the gmail tab in Firefox (don’t use IE, so I don’t know if the
same problem exists with that product), then re-open gmail in a new tab.
That will let me see that last email, but I have to do the same thing when
another email for that same thread is received. I also can’t delete the
thread until I go through the process to open the last email as until I do
that the email is unopened will pop back up the next time gmail checks the
server.This doesn’t happen that often and it is only a minor issue, but I’m
interested if I’m the only one seeing the problem. This has been going on
for a number of years and updates to both gmail and Firefox so I’m thinking
it is something with my system. Otherwise I would expect the problem to
have been fixed some time ago.Regards,
John Stevenson
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It is another virus created link. Don’t click on it.
– pat
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Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.Silverheels wrote:
Is this one another spam email? (I’m not clicking on the link.)
Tor
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Rich
Did you trying calling Steve who created Ultimate Sole? He own(Ed) a 424.
* ALL TECHNICAL QUESTIONS – Steve at 757-374-3176*
– pat
On Monday, May 14, 2012, wrote:
Quote:Dan,
No, I just the normal stuff. It looks great for a year, then darkens. It
will build up a bit with each coat until it starts to peal. Then I have to
strip it off and start over. I find it easy to strip with a heat-gun and
scraper. I then follow with a teak cleaner and a light sanding. After
over 30 years of sanding, the wood has gotten thin in some areas exposing
crew heads. These can be sunk a bit deeper but its a lot of work. We had
good weather this spring so we stripped and refinished all the exterior
brightwork. It looks nice. If I ever get another boat though it would
have little or no exterior woodwork.Rich
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We had the same problem.. Cold water .. and loose belts. increased the
tension on the pump belt (such an easy place to reach) and it all worked
fine.– pat
Rodd Leeds wrote, On 5/11/12 5:43 PM:
Gents-
Started engine this week for first time after winter. Engine turned over on first turn of key, but is not pumping water out exhaust. Any thoughts on this? I did not replace the raw water pump impellor this season (I do it every other year), so I am surprised that I have this problem. My first thought is the V-drive. Perhaps that cooling passage is all clogged and not letting water pass through up to the engine. Ideas please!Rodd Leeds
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Main: purchased 5-6 yrs ago.
UK sails full batten, batt cars, 3 reef points ~$3,300Mizzen: purchased 5-6 yrs ago. Sailrite
$900 – we sewed it fromJibs: 3 years ago Nielsen Sails in Racine, WI ( used to be with Quantum)
rope luff, 6 & 8 oz cloth
$1800 for 110
$2200 for 150pretty happy with all of them.
– pat
SV Doris E, p424 #178Silverheels wrote, On 5/4/12 5:49 AM:
Anybody care to share what they’ve paid for a new mainsail& new mizzen
sail within the past few years? (Individual sail prices, not grand
totals, please.)Thanks,
Tor
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If there are any extras we could use 1 as well. The dog took one out a
few years ago.– pat
SV Doris E, p424 #178Seawater wrote, On 3/16/12 1:12 PM:
Yes, the reading lamps that have a plastic 4″ dia plastic cylinder about 7″ long covering the 12 home-style edison lightbulbs.
Here is a link to a photo that I think is publicly viewable https://picasaweb.google.com/110117171543003531139/Madness02#5720558572311887154
Thanks for responding, I look forward to hearing from you.
Walter
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I made fitted sheets for the V berth. It required 2 flat king size
sheets. If I recall correctly the bottom ( forward) was 22 in wide and
the front ( aft) of the bed was 81 inches. My mistake was not making
the fitted part wide enough. They fit perfectly if no one is laying in
the bed – make it 2-3 inches extra + mattress height + 2″ for the (under
fold ) for each side at least so that you don’t run into the same issue.For the aft berth we just use regular full size sheets. They work fine
and I didn’t have to sew them.– pat
cstewart wrote, On 3/16/12 11:11 AM:
Pat:
Thank you for the information. I am planning on making a fitted matress cover to take with me back down to the boat. I’ve never done that before but I do have a sewing maching and I have made hatch covers and motor covers, etc. (things you really can’t screw up) so I thought I would try matress covers. I have 4 days. Next I may do fitted sheets for the V-berth and the aft cabin. If anyone has any experience doing this, I can sure use any advice.
Thanks,
Charlie
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We just measured this week.
Ours is:
50 inches at the head
55 inches aft of the scupper
48 inches at the foot
77.75 long edge.did not measure the curve yet.
– pat
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Tor et al
hey – you guys are all old now too.
– pat
Silverheels wrote, On 1/7/12 6:16 AM:
Quote:Great shot.Hey, maybe they have daughters…
😉
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Pete
The original cleats on our boat were marinium cleats, a cast aluminum
alloy. I believe they were made by Wilcox Crittenden. They certainly
were not chrome plated. They are relatively light in feel but heavy
walled. We have several “new” in the basement here that we picked up on
ebay several years ago – I think 2 of them are the 10″ with 4 screw base.As for re-chroming – no experience.
– pat
Doris E….Pete Dubler wrote, On 10/25/11 7:09 PM:
So nobody here has any experience with re-chroming any parts?
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we replaced ours with a standard 30 gallon tank (might be 31) from
http://www.kracor.com
I would have to look up the actual dimensions.We did have cut the framing around the hole to get enough space to slide
it in.
http://picasaweb.google.com/dhjppn/HoldingTankPictures– pat
SV Doris EAdam Silverstein wrote, On 10/17/11 7:22 PM:
Thank you for the recomendation; now if I can figure out whether a stock tank fits (I’ve made 3 3d templates from cardboard so far) I’ll know if I need to make the tank, and even better, what dimensions to make it. Darned geometry. It’s the fitting through multiple planes that confuses me.
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I think those pictures are Mary Springhorn’s boat, Parallax, in Washington
– ppn
Robert Fine wrote, On 10/11/11 11:30 AM:
Maybe, although I didn’t see the other mods.
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Oct 11, 2011 12:20 PM, “Patrick” wrote:Is this the boat.
https://www.pearson424.org/gallery/index.php/Interior-Modifications/album01-p
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On Oct 11, 2011, at 6:03 AM, Robert Fine wrote:
Hi All,
I’m in the middle of a delivery to Charleston and who should I spy in
Beautort, NC but One Eighty, Charles and Quentin’s 424. They’ve just
brought the boat from the Great Lakes to the Hudson to Norfolk to here.
Welcome them!One Eighty is in terrific shape and I hope Charles sends a picture of
what
they or the PO did to the nav station (hint, it’s a big hanging locker
now).Anyway, that’s the news for today.
Bob
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what artwork do you want?
– pat
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Alan wrote:
Does anyone have the 424 logo or Pearson artwork in a file I can use to make up some boat cards?
Thanks
Alan
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One of the reasons we purchased the 424 was the back berth. Dave is
6’7″ ( or maybe 6’6″ now ) and the berth is exactly that long. Neither
of us are small people (unfortunately).. The two of us are quite
comfortable in the back berth. The v-berth is too narrow at the bow for
the size of our feet together but my kids liked it. They fought over it
when they were in HS and college. Now that they have families the
configuration still works for us. Our friends also like the v-berth
using it regularly as a motel bedI don’t remember exactly what the 422 looks like but I can say that we
have found the 424 to be a very comfortable cruising boat. It has
enough storage for us to be in the wilderness for many weeks without
requiring re-provisioning.I made custom sheets for the v berth ( requires cutting down king size
sheets) but, as John pointed out, the back berth use regular full size (
doubles) sheets which is very convenient.– pat
John Stevenson wrote, On 9/11/11 7:36 PM:
Quote:One of the advantages of the aft cabin berth in the 424 is that it is
almost exactly a full-size berth. That is full-size fitted sheets are
almost a perfect fit (a little wide at the foot, but right on at the head).
Full-size used to be called a “Double”, but Rich’s description is probably
more accurate.
Anyway you can buy fitted sheets for the berth at Walmart.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Rich Carter wrote:
Quote:Michael,
I can only speak of the 424 with the two companionway configuration. The
V-birth in the 422 and 424 is probably very similar. I find the bunk hard
to get in and out of and it’s a bit short for me. I’m 6′ 2″. The main
cabin is good for guests, but I wouldn’t sleep there. The aft bunk is a
bit
narrow, but it doesn’t matter in my case. My wife gets half of the bed and
I get the other half. Her half is in the middle and my half is on both
edges. Having a wider bunk wouldn’t help. She pins me up against the side
of the hull. At least one owner extended the width of the aft bunk. I’ve
considered doing the same, but why bother 🙁The stock cusions are thin but are probably replaced in most boats.
IMHO, the 422 has more living space at the expense of storage.
Rich
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