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  • in reply to: Paint touch up on the mast #78268
    Hull152_Patrick
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    I had mine blasted, primed and finished with alexseal paint. So far
    they still look great!

    -p

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    On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:24, kalinowski wrote:

    Can anyone give me some pointers on materials for touching up the masts? They are original with the boat.

    Dan Kalinowski
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    in reply to: Generator hookup #78267
    Hull152_Patrick
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    True, but it does have that handly screw down cover.

    I ended up finding a shore cord for $23USD at a swap meet and put one
    of the three prong plugs that came with the EU20i on the male end of
    the cord. We’ll give it a shot this week.

    Thanks!
    -p

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    On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 6:50 AM, wrote:

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    The issue is that the existing shore power plug on the boat will have live power on it.  If someone gets their hand in there they could get injured.

    Rich


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    in reply to: Generator hookup #78265
    Hull152_Patrick
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    I gotcha…. Like one of those plastic child proof plug thingies.

    Sent from my iPhone

    On Feb 17, 2012, at 13:46, John Stevenson wrote:

    Patrick,
    Rich’s point is valid, but you are in Mexico. Down there you don’t need no
    stinking codes[?]. Just to be a little safer, maybe could you buy a 20A
    male plug and seal the inside (silicone?). Insert that into 20A female
    plug that you are going to wire to the backside of the shore receptacle
    when you are not running the generator. That way there is no open hot plug
    in the lazarette on those rare occasions when you are plugged into shore
    power.

    I think a little caution with what you are planning will prevent any
    problems until you can get a proper adapter for the shore power receptacle.

    Regards,
    John Stevenson
    http://www.svsarah.com

    On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Robert Fine wrote:

    I’ve made that mistake. It isn’t the same…

    I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
    On Feb 17, 2012 3:58 PM, “Peaboy Walters” wrote:

    I did see a 15amp twist lock which could be wired to a cord. I didn’t
    think the tong (?) or pin pattern was the same circumference as the
    30amp. Maybe I was wrong though.

    -p

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    On Feb 17, 2012, at 12:33, “”
    wrote:

    My boat has a 30A 115v make receptacle for shore power. If you add a

    second receptacle and feed power through it, the make plug will be hot.
    This is a bad idea and must violate some codes.

    I made a 15A shore power adapter cord many years ago using a cheap

    extension cord and a plug purchased at the hardware store. It wasn’t
    expensive. You don’t really need a fancy marine plug for this.

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    I use an EU-2000 on my boat. It works pretty well.

    Rich


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    Thanks Dawn and Patrick!

    in reply to: Generator hookup #78262
    Hull152_Patrick
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    I did see a 15amp twist lock which could be wired to a cord. I didn’t
    think the tong (?) or pin pattern was the same circumference as the
    30amp. Maybe I was wrong though.

    -p

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    On Feb 17, 2012, at 12:33, “”
    wrote:

    Quote:
    My boat has a 30A 115v make receptacle for shore power. If you add a second receptacle and feed power through it, the make plug will be hot. This is a bad idea and must violate some codes.

    I made a 15A shore power adapter cord many years ago using a cheap extension cord and a plug purchased at the hardware store. It wasn’t expensive. You don’t really need a fancy marine plug for this.

    I use an EU-2000 on my boat. It works pretty well.

    Rich


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    Thanks Dawn and Patrick!

    in reply to: Generator hookup #78260
    Hull152_Patrick
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    The adapters are unavailable here at the moment and expensive when they are.

    I think I’m good to go now, I just wanted to check with y’all that I
    wasn’t missing something.

    Muchas Gracias!
    -p

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    On Feb 17, 2012, at 12:09, Robert Fine wrote:

    Yes, but why not an adapter and regular extension cord? Adapter like $40
    and you should have one anyway.

    I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
    On Feb 17, 2012 2:17 PM, “Peaboy Walters” wrote:

    Hey guys, quick question. I bought a Honda Eu20i here in Mexico. It’s
    the same as the eu2000i (non-companion) so I need to connect a
    standard three prong cord to boat’s shore power. I was going to make a
    cord, but the twist locks from Marinco are crazy expensive.

    Could I wire in a standard 20amp out to the back of the shore power
    inlet instead? Mg thought is to have this outlet live inside the
    lazarette.

    Quick replies get extra points, I’m at home depot. 😉

    Thanks!
    -p

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    Thanks Dawn and Patrick!

    in reply to: Chain Locker and Water Tank #78199
    Hull152_Patrick
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    Yep, I have the Quickreel with the Dyneema webbing. Last time I spoke
    with them at the boat show they said they couldn’t get the Dyneema
    anymore as it was being used in military applications.

    Sounds like a cool DIY project though, do send pics when you’re done!

    -p
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    On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Pete Dubler wrote:

    Patrick, are you talking about a “quickreel”?  I am in the process of making
    two of my own using 35mm floating hub projector reels and 1 1/2″ wide
    webbing.  You can get 600′ of 0.060″ thick 6000# webbing on a 25″ reel with
    an 8″ hub.  Problem is finding a source of the webbing.  The guy at quckreel
    wanted a fortune for it.  I am building two for shore lines for those deep
    pacific anchorages.

    Pete

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    Thanks Dawn and Patrick!

    in reply to: Chain Locker and Water Tank #78193
    Hull152_Patrick
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    Yeah, I almost got around to copying that off you too.
    When I beefed up my transom for the hydrovane, I put in a side shelf
    in the starboard quarter, similiar to the one I assume we all have
    under the propane locker on the port quarter.

    On that, I bolted down a heavy duty mil crate and my stern chain is
    living in there. When needed, I pull it out and attach it to the
    Dyneema webbing I have on a reel. Love that thing, still need to mount
    it though.

    We’re finding the stern anchor handy here in Mexico where the land
    breeze at night does not ever match with the swell. The anchorages are
    pretty wide open here.

    -p

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    On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Silverheels wrote:

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    Patrick,

    I made a stern anchor locker of sorts – for about $10. Here’s how:

    When I got rid of the original bilge blower system (around Day 1), I
    made a PVC deck pipe & cap to fit the old vent cowl hole on the aft
    cockpit coaming (starboard section). I could’ve bought a shiny stainless
    deck fitting from West Marina, but where’s the fun in that? Turned out
    to be one of my more creative moments, if I do say so myself (photos
    attached). Then I built a strong shelf in the lazarette area directly
    below that deck pipe and secured a heavy duty 5-gallon plastic paint
    bucket onto the shelf. That’s the chain locker. Since I use a stern
    anchor about once every 3 years (if that), I didn’t bother making the
    bucket self-draining, but it could be done. As it is, it’s a perfect
    container for the stern anchor’s 25′ of 5/16″ chain plus a bunch of 1/2″
    rode – I forget how much, but enough; maybe 100′. The 22 lb Danforth
    anchor lives in a rail bracket (see photo). I also bought a proper deck
    anchor roller for the setup (photo attached), not included in my $10
    boast. But it’s still in a to-do locker waiting to be installed. Just
    never gets to the top of the priority list.

    Have fun!

    Tor


    Silverheels, P-424 #17
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    in reply to: Chain Locker and Water Tank #78191
    Hull152_Patrick
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    Of course it looks like what you did, I copied you!!!
    I was even going to go with the dual setup, but ran out of time and willingness to pay. Thus far in the Sea of Cortez and the Pacific coast of Mexico, I’ve never even out out 100′ of chain let alone another bow anchor. We have put out a stern anchor though. If I was still working and had the cash, i think a stern anchor locker that drains overboard with a proper hawse pipe which does not drag chain and goop into the cockpit would be worth more than dual anchors on the bow.

    -p

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    On Jan 30, 2012, at 9:52, “Silverheels” wrote:

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    Patrick,

    It appears you and I did much the same thing, except I set mine up with
    a divided locker and 2 anchors. As you’ve demonstrated, that space is
    more than ample for a single anchor’s rode/chain. It will accommodate 2
    when divided, but with the pyramid issue on the primary anchor rode’s
    side.

    Tor


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    in reply to: LED spreader lights #78106
    Hull152_Patrick
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    I have a pair of Dr LED’s spreader lights. Model name is KEVIN. LOVE them!

    -p

    On 1/7/12, Pete Dubler wrote:

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    I am impressed with the Kimerlite
    Product line and am usi.g them for all the exterior lighting on our refit

    Sent from my Android phone which is programed to entertain you with creative
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    Thanks Dawn and Patrick!

    in reply to: DC panel Voltage drop #78060
    Hull152_Patrick
    Spectator

    What size was your battery cable before you added the additional 8AWG wire?

    For comparison sakes, my cable is all 2/0.

    -p
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    On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Alan wrote:

    I just thought I’d mention something I have found now on two 424’s
    recently.
    The DC +12 volt cable the runs from the common terminal of the battery
    switch to the DC Panel is woefully inadequate. It may have been OK 30
    years ago but as we had more and more devices connected to the DC panel,
    the voltage drop gets worse and worse.
    This time is presented itself as a large voltage drop on one side the buss
    as the compressor for the refrigeration unit started up.
    As we did not have a larger cable on hand, we run 2nd cable (#8) along
    with the original wire. It seemed to help the problem.
    Hope it helps someone…
    Alan
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    Thanks Dawn and Patrick!

    in reply to: electrical wire sourced #78024
    Hull152_Patrick
    Spectator

    When I did my mast wiring I ordered all of my wire from GenuineDealz and it
    seems to be fine thus far. For comparison purposes, most of the wire was
    Berkshire, not Ancor.

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    On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Lee Yonkers wrote:

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    GenuineDealz in Brunswick, GA is a great place to buy marine electrical
    wire.
    Mike is a great guy and his service is top notch.

    (866)970-DEAL Toll Free
    (912)264-8327 local
    (912)265-8202 fax

    Lee

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    Thanks Dawn and Patrick!

    in reply to: Handy web site #77979
    Hull152_Patrick
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    I think on Cruisers Forum someone said you can get SS tubing cheaper at
    Sailrite, but that is one thing and OnlinMetals has many materials.

    OM is in Seattle and the best deal was will call and looking in the scrap
    bin… can’t do that anymore 😉

    -p

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    On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Pete Dubler wrote:

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    Local metal yards generally are pretty reasonable. At mine they have a
    new pile of aluminum and of SS scrap every week at $2.00 per pound. I make
    stuff out of the stainless and buff it up and it looks great.

    On 11/10/2011 4:03 PM, Silverheels wrote:

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    Thanks Dawn and Patrick!

    in reply to: Everybody out sailing? #77971
    Hull152_Patrick
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    I think my reply was lost with this crappy wifi…

    Dawn and I are in Puerto Los Cabos http://shiptrak.org/?callsign=w7pea

    We’re enjoying a couple of nights of Marina life and boat cleaning
    after completing the Baja Ha-Ha and surviving the VERY rolly anchorage
    in cabo san lucas. It has been a challenging bit of sailing and
    motoring the whole way down with horrible weather in the NW legs and
    lighter airs for the ha-ha than our spinnakerless two-handed boat
    could rely on sailing exclusively. But the people in the Ha-Ha are
    awesome and sooo helpful. Now that we’re in sunny Mexico things are
    looking up!

    Not sure if I mentioned this, but sv Sojourned also did the Ha-Ha.
    Scott is a nice guy and on the list, but not very active. I have yet
    to board his boat for a proper inspection but hope to do in La Paz and
    report back. 😉

    OK, time to sit around and drink my coffee!

    Buen viento y buena mar!
    -patrick

    On 11/10/11, Elaine Patton wrote:

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    DITTO

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    in reply to: When to use mizzen staysail #77919
    Hull152_Patrick
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    I WANT!! We could have used that on our trip down the coast, lots of
    rolling…

    I don’t even have a spinnaker or a mizzen staysail yet or the solent stay
    yet. 🙂 I did put the tang on the mast for that though. I wonder which of
    those are worth having first… probably the Asym Spinnaker.

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    On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Pete Dubler wrote:

    It is also a great light wind supplemental sail. When you are hanging
    every handkerchief and towel to grab the wind, don’t forget the miz ss.

    But yes, wonderful on a reach.

    Another sail I love but don’t have on our 424 (yet) is a mule. This is a
    sail that goes between the miz and main masts up high. On a simple furler.
    I crewed several times on this Whitby 42 (before it was refurbished) that
    had one. It is great for stabilizing the boat in rolling seas but needs to
    come down early. Here is a link that show it in use:
    http://www.sailblogs.com/**member/bluestocking/?xjMsgID=**11590

    Pete

    On 10/20/2011 9:37 PM, Patrick “Peaboy” Walters wrote:

    AWESOME on a beam reach…. but what isn’t 😉

    Generally we use it when we’re on any reach that isn’t very deep, once
    it’s
    too deep it’s blanketing the main.
    You can also use it in combination with the jib without the main, but I’ve
    not done that much at all yet… have to play around.

    There is precious little written about proper sailing and trimming of
    ketches. I was going to write to this maritime museum in England if see if
    they had any older references… still on the to do list. 😉

    I’d love to hear what everyone else has to say.

    -p
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    On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 7:07 PM, kalinowski<dan.kalinowski@**comcast.net

    wrote:

    Finally dug deep in the sail bags and am getting out the mizzen staysail.

    This one is new to me (our 424 is my first ketch). When is the best time
    to
    hoist this one? What are the benefits/drawbacks? Air here in the
    Sandwich
    Isles is usually 15-18 daily.

    Dan Kalinowski
    Jolly Lama #135
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    Thanks Dawn and Patrick!

    in reply to: When to use mizzen staysail #77917
    Hull152_Patrick
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    AWESOME on a beam reach…. but what isn’t 😉

    Generally we use it when we’re on any reach that isn’t very deep, once it’s
    too deep it’s blanketing the main.
    You can also use it in combination with the jib without the main, but I’ve
    not done that much at all yet… have to play around.

    There is precious little written about proper sailing and trimming of
    ketches. I was going to write to this maritime museum in England if see if
    they had any older references… still on the to do list. 😉

    I’d love to hear what everyone else has to say.

    -p
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    On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 7:07 PM, kalinowski wrote:

    Finally dug deep in the sail bags and am getting out the mizzen staysail.
    This one is new to me (our 424 is my first ketch). When is the best time to
    hoist this one? What are the benefits/drawbacks? Air here in the Sandwich
    Isles is usually 15-18 daily.

    Dan Kalinowski
    Jolly Lama #135
    Ko Olina, O’ahu

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    Thanks Dawn and Patrick!

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